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Suzanne Schwartz: And just a few zoom instructions for all the our council members please try to mute your audio unless you're talking, it'll keep the the there will be less background noise. And I think it'll be easier for everyone to hear and participate

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Suzanne Schwartz: And then there may be some presentations during the meeting where we will actually mute everyone else so that there's that we don't get any kind of bleed over sound.

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Suzanne Schwartz: With that, I'd like to turn the meeting over to Kathleen Jackson. The Water Development Board director and she's going to give you a quick welcome.

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Kathleen Jackson: Well, thank you. Suzanne, it's it's honor and a pleasure to be here at the maiden voyage of the Interregional Planning Council meeting.

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Kathleen Jackson: And to see so many friends participating, both old friends and new friends and appreciate your ongoing leadership and your commitment and your hard work and

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Kathleen Jackson: volunteering to participate in the Interregional Planning Council and so important, I think, moving forward that we solicit

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Kathleen Jackson: Everyone's thoughts and ideas. And I think a great opportunity to be able to utilize us moving forward so that we make our regional water planning process even more valuable and even more important.

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Kathleen Jackson: You know, anytime that I talk with someone who is engaged in our regional water planning process. I absolutely have to thank you and tell you how effective it is and how it's working.

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Kathleen Jackson: We're, we're absolutely turning planning into projects and we're being tremendously successful throughout Texas. I know these are  challenging times

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Kevin Ward: Suzanne, you're muted.

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Suzanne Schwartz: I muted myself and forgot to forgot to unmute myself. I just wanted to. Yeah. Matt, did you want to say something.

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Matt Nelson: Nice to see y'all

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Kevin Ward: I figured it out. I'm on now.
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Suzanne Schwartz: Your name your region. And then what you do when you're not working on regional water planning.

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Steve Walthour: And I'm the general manager of North Plains Groundwater conservation district.

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Russell Schreiber: Director of Public Works for the city of Wichita Falls so I deal with the water, sewer, sanitation, streets and the whole gamut of things related to public works. Glad to be part of the part of the group.

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Kevin Ward:
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Kevin Ward: I'm chair of the Region C regional planning group as well as we are Trinity River Authority is the political subdivision.

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Kevin Ward: And my day job is when I'm not just sitting at the house trying to do things remotely now is usually taking care of all of the water, sewer plants and things like that we have for the Trinity River Authority and developing water supplies.

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Jim Thompson: I'm Jim Thompson. I'm the chair of the region D water planning group and I am Chief Financial Officer and in house counsel for Ward Timber company.

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Allison Strube: Hello, I'm Allison Strube. I serve municipalities over 50,000 per region F and I am the director of water utilities for the city of San Angelo.

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Gail Peek: I'm vice chair of the Region G planning group. I also represent small businesses in Region G.

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Gail Peek: In my spare time. I practice law.

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Mark Evans: I'm Mark Evans. I'm the chairman of Region H. My day job is I'm Director of Planning and Governmental Affairs for the North Harris County Regional Water Authority.

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Ray Buck: Ray Buck I'm the general manager of the Upper Guadalupe
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David Wheelock: Good afternoon, everyone. David Wheelock here and I am Vice Chair of Region K and I am director of water supply planning in Lower Colorado River Authority.

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Suzanne Scott: Good afternoon. I'm Suzanne Scott, I'm the chair of the Region L planning group. I'm also the general manager of the San Antonio River Authority and we do also serve as the political subdivision administrator for Region L.

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Carl Crull: My previous life I was with the city of Corpus Christi for 20 years served as assistant city manager and I was with HDR engineering for 17 years

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Patrick Brzozowski: Service secretary of Region P.

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Patrick Brzozowski: Is also the political subdivision the contracting entity for regional planning group. I'm also the general manager of the Lavaca-Navidad River Authority.

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Shannon Houston: Sure I'll jump in. My name is Shannon Houston. I'm the committee director for House natural resources. Chairman Larson is going to jump on here in a minute

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Shannon Houston: And just provide some remarks, but I'll be monitoring the meetings and they will serve as a resource if any of the members have any questions for him. Thank you.
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Suzanne Schwartz: Great. And then Temple.

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Temple McKinnon: I'm Temple McKinnon. I'm the Director of Water Use, Projections and Planning at the Water Development Board.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Have I missed anyone

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Suzanne Schwartz: Are we ready to bring Representative Larson into the meeting.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay.

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Shannon Houston: Yes, I believe he's on the line.

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Shannon Houston: Suzanne Schwartz:
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Suzanne Schwartz: And I think we've been I'm going to turn to Kathleen Jackson, she's going to do an introduction of the Representative

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Kathleen Jackson: Thank you so much. Suzanne. It's an honor and a privilege to be able to introduce Representative Lyle Larson and by way of introduction, I thought I might share my favorite Representative Lyle Larson story.

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Kathleen Jackson: So I'll take you back to 2011. I was a board member on the l
Lower Neches Valley Authority and sitting at my desk working and I get a call from the general manager. And usually when you get a call from the general manager, there is either an operational issue.

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Kathleen Jackson: Associated with

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Kathleen Jackson: You know, something to do with the canal system or there's something that is somewhat unusual that either has happened or might happen. And so the the the message on the on the phone call was a we have a Representative Lyle Larson, who's coming to visit.

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Kathleen Jackson: Now as the local sponsor for the federal project at Lake Sam Rayburn. And we had, you know, from time to time, many visitors come. We had generals come from

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Kathleen Jackson: the Corp of Engineers out of Washington, DC.

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Kathleen Jackson: We had senators. We had Congressman, but we couldn't recall ever having a visit from a state representative from outside the district. And so, of course, being a good board member I asked if there was anything I could do to help

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Kathleen Jackson: And they said, no, we've got this covered we've we've already gone and

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Kathleen Jackson: kind of pulled some diagrams and some some maps, we got them in the conference room. We got this covered, we're ready to go. And at the next board meeting

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Kathleen Jackson: We'll give you and the rest of the board members kind of an update on how the meeting went. So now fast forward to the board meeting and and here's the report that was given

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Kathleen Jackson: Regarding Representative Larson's visit. The first thing that was noted is that they were really kind of anticipating somebody coming wearing a coat and tie and instead he had on work boots and, you know, back in 2011

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Kathleen Jackson: sportsman attire was really kind of referred to as at least, you know, to the board members at the time as kind of being prepared to make a trip to the jungle.

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Kathleen Jackson: So they were a little bit, I think kind of taken aback and but stayed to the plan, took him in the conference room, and then started showing him the maps and the diagrams.

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Kathleen Jackson: And after about 15 minutes Representative Larson kind of looked up and said, Okay, I'm ready to go.

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Kathleen Jackson: And they said before they could say, well, thank you so much for coming. We really enjoyed the visit. He said, Where's the truck.

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Kathleen Jackson: He said, I'm ready to go see the system. So they brought the truck around and the first place they took him was down to the Neches River. Now in Southeast Texas at this time of year. You need two cans of
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Kathleen Jackson: Of like the large size, one in each hand to kind of ward off the mosquitoes.

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Kathleen Jackson: And so they took him to the salt water barrier. He walked down to see the tanner gates kind of

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Kathleen Jackson: inspected those himself the big gates that hold back the salt water wedge went inside the control room spent a long time talking with the operator there.

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Kathleen Jackson: And then from there, he said, Okay, what else do we need to see. So we went over the next trip was over to the to the Neches first and this is a facility that a lot of that equipment had been around maybe since the 40s, and so it wasn't

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Kathleen Jackson: bright shiny new technology, but he spent every bit as much time.

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Kathleen Jackson: Learning about the Neches first and the pumping system or the station that used to provide water to the agricultural part of the of the authority of the canal system.

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Kathleen Jackson: He also spent time talking to some of the maintenance people that were there. And so at that point it was like we pretty much showed you everything except the

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Kathleen Jackson: You know miles and miles of canals that we have. And he said, well, let's go. And so they got in got in the truck. They started driving the canal system.

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Kathleen Jackson: Showed him kind of the interconnects, talked to him about some of the challenges and up keeping the canal.

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Kathleen Jackson: Talk to him about the the redundancy that was in place because they had the gal year as well as the Beaumont irrigation. And by this time it's late. Late in the afternoon there in China, Texas, they're driving down

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Kathleen Jackson: A canal bank and there's a rice farmer who's out repairing one of his levees because he had a washout

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Kathleen Jackson: Representative Larson stop the cars, it stopped the truck got out and spend a long time talking with the rice farmer.

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Kathleen Jackson: Um, you know, he came to Southeast Texas. He wanted to see for himself. He spent time talking with people who were boots on the ground who were actually engaged in the process. So not only, you know, was he able to kind of

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Kathleen Jackson: Better understand for himself. But able to get their viewpoint and understand their diversity of thought and then along the way, creating relationships which you know could compound later into

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Kathleen Jackson: You know, collaborative type of opportunities.

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Kathleen Jackson: You know, an approach that you know has served Representative Larson well in terms of being able to move forward and do some some pretty amazing things.

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Kathleen Jackson: But it also served. I think it's an example of outreach. I know it did for me, and so I'm very grateful for, you know, somebody you know kind of very much unexpectedly coming to Southeast Texas.

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Kathleen Jackson: And spending a day to learn about something and to kind of share, if you will, his approach. At the time we kind of felt like LNVA was the favored river authority, the favorite child. But of course, what we learned later.

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Kathleen Jackson: Was that he visited every river authority and he visited every regional water planning group he visited every major utility within the state. And most of the groundwater conservation districts

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Kathleen Jackson: So to kind of end up. I guess the report that was given at the board meeting at LNVA back in 2011 and

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Kathleen Jackson: And I, and I call Scott Hall was the general manager and we kind of reminisced about this day and and he's kind of what, here's what he kind of remembered

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Kathleen Jackson: That, you know, it's kind of summed up Representative Larson's visit he said he was eager to learn. He listens and he takes it all in.

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Kathleen Jackson: And I think if you would ask the folks today 10 years later to kind of sum up Representative Lyle Larson and they would say the same thing they would say he's eager to learn. He listens.

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Kathleen Jackson: And he takes it all in.

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Kathleen Jackson: But I think he would they would add another point to the list and that they would say that he is a true champion for Texas water so that kind of ends my story. My favorite story.

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Kathleen Jackson: With that, I'm going to turn it over to the capable hands of Suzanne and also to our amazing and talented and wonderful staff at the water development board who I'm sure

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Kathleen Jackson: Will work to support the Council in meeting all of your needs and and meeting your charges. So thanks, Suzanne. And with that, I will turn it over to Representative Larson.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Did we lose the

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Suzanne Schwartz: Representative Larson's audio.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Can anyone hear the representative

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Patrick Brzozowski: No.

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Tomas Rodriguez: No.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, we'll get more work.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki, can you are you

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Suzanne Schwartz: Working on that.

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Vicki Read: I am. It looks like it disconnected, for some reason.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, I'm

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Suzanne Schwartz: Shannon can you ask him to call back again.

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Shannon Houston: Hi this is Shannon and yes I am I'm going to see if he can call back to get a better connection.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay great, thanks.

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Suzanne Schwartz: That was a very nice story.

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Matt Nelson: Makes me miss being in the field.

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Matt Nelson: And I'd like to thank Suzanne, Suzanne Schwartz. For coming up double secret reason again to

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Matt Nelson: Support the water plan activities. So that's a, it's a real

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Matt Nelson: help. So thanks.

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Suzanne Schwartz: No, my pleasure.

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Representative Larson:
Can y'all hear me.

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Matt Nelson:
Yes.

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Matt Nelson:
Sir

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Suzanne Schwartz:
Welcome

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Representative Larson:
Well, thank you. I apologize for some technical difficulties, I'm Kathleen, I appreciate your kind of assessment.

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Representative Larson: All that means is I'm an Aggie and it takes a lot for me to learn. So you got to talk slow and talk loud and write big and I might be able to figure this stuff out.

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Representative Larson: That all of y'all have been very generous with your time over the last decade, many of y'all met with you and your offices are met with you in Austin. And then, and this interregional conference, the Council that that we created came from a lot of these meetings and

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Representative Larson: many of y'all have heard me talk about the

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Representative Larson: The balkanization of the state from the standpoint of the 16 regions and the holistic plan.

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Representative Larson: As I've, I've got across the state and and from

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Representative Larson:: The ideas.

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Representative Larson: That y'all are utilizing in your own

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Representative Larson: Which of those projects will actually make it instead of just re upping the projects go through a

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Representative Larson: A long vetting process and say, just as much as it's been on the plan, you know, for the last 20 years doesn't mean that it's going to hit those target dates and then start working with the regions around you.

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Representative Larson: To see if we can develop some multi regional projects that make more sense in the long term, with the technology. The you know what the evolution of

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Representative Larson: A lot of different strategies. People are deploying worldwide. And then also, figuring out on the conflict side.

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Representative Larson: And having very candid discussions on how we can reduce the conflict and try to put the state together. We're working as a unit and not fighting each other along some arbitrary boundary that was set up to set up the planning.

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Representative Larson: Districts. I know that I talked to

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Representative Larson: Kevin Ward and I talked to some other folks about

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Representative Larson: You know some of the conflicts that are out there. I just have a, a lot of respect for everybody that's on this call that I've met and and others. I've heard of some of y'all.

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Representative Larson: That we can get this figured out and just make it a better a better process by striking the dialogue, working with the legislature working with in each of the planning district and the water development board. I think all of us can can do something better.

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Representative Larson: To make this process something that will be you know something or generate something for future generations. So again, thank you all very much for your kindness over the last decade, working with y'all and look forward to working with you on this Council.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you Representative Larson.

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Suzanne Schwartz: I wonder if we you there may be questions that people may have

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Suzanne Schwartz: A few. I wonder if you would be willing to take those.
Representative Larson:
Yes, ma'am.
Suzanne Schwartz:
And I just, I forgot to mention this at the start of the meeting, but we are recording the meeting as we're required to do under the executive order as for having remote meetings.

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Suzanne Schwartz: So just let to let you know.

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Representative Larson:
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Suzanne Schwartz: Any questions. Anybody wanna, I think Tomas

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Suzanne Schwartz: Were you I couldn't tell if you're wondering if anybody have any questions of other Representative Larson.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Yes, Suzanne.

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Suzanne Scott: Um, first of all, I want to tell, I

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Suzanne Scott: Appreciate that Representative Larson.

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Suzanne Scott: Has reached out to us and

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Suzanne Scott: Is working directly with all the various river authorities and ground water districts and all he's been so accessible to all of us. I did quickly though.

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Suzanne Scott: I know that this team and I know we're going to talk about this a little bit later, but I would like to get some

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Suzanne Scott: Some perspective from Representative Larson.

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Suzanne Scott: You know the timeline for the work that we're charged to do is pretty short.

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Suzanne Scott: specifics about looking at regional cooperation for Project Development and that sort of thing.

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Suzanne Scott: Because it's some of this is going to take a little bit more effort than we may be able to develop a process.

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Suzanne Scott: But not necessarily get to answers and in a short period of time. I'm just trying to get a sense from him.

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Suzanne Scott: As to the long term opportunities that he sees with this collaboration.

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Representative Larson:
Yeah. Suzanne. I sent all of y'all a letter and that sort of hit on the

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Representative Larson: Compressed time frame of October 14th and they've been primarily focused right now on the conflicts, the project viability and then sort of lay out an outline for the future for for the Council to address in a long term and definitely would like to see, you know, multi regional projects.

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Representative Larson: being looked at and other States and other countries, they don't they don't have the imposition of staying within you know boundary lines and

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Representative Larson: I think what we've seen with some of the transport projects, some of the things that are being discussed, they will have multiple regional impacts.

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Representative Larson: If, if any up materialize. So I think that and the drought contingency plans that everybody submitted. I think that as this council gets going.

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Representative Larson: I think if we blend some of those together that will help understand, you know, where there can be some relief when we saw in 2011

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Representative Larson: We saw some very creative things working within regions and across regional lines if there, there are distressed area. So I think all of that will come together, it's just

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Representative Larson: Basically if we got the right right mindset. And we've got the spree decor approach to doing doing some stuff outside of our comfort zone right now the way it's it's been set up. That's what I'd like to see in the long term.

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Suzanne Scott:
Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Anyone else

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Suzanne Schwartz: I guess that. Thank you. So

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Suzanne Schwartz: Much Representative Larson for for

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Suzanne Schwartz:
Letting it giving us some insights, both in your letters and

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Suzanne Schwartz: In your in your joining us today. It's really helpful.

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Representative Larson:
Well, thank you, ma'am
Appreciate your time, all of you. Thank you for your time.

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Suzanne Schwartz: We're ready to move into just a brief orientation that the Temple McKinnon is going to give us regarding the that legislation and some timelines and things like that. So I'm going to turn it over to Temple.

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Temple McKinnon: And good afternoon everyone.

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Temple McKinnon: Director Jackson touched on this, as did Representative Larson, just a minute ago. So I wanted to make you aware of the Planning Council provisions that are in our rules and the timelines that are in there.

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Temple McKinnon: And we published proposed rule revisions this winter to address the revisions from House Bill 807 and public comment on that closed at the end of the March and we anticipate taking the final rule, rule for considered adoption for our board in June.

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Temple McKinnon: House Bill 807 requires the Council to submit a report to the Board, but it does not stay at a specific deadline, other than the Council serves until the adoption of state water plan.

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Temple McKinnon: So we anticipate having a draft state water plan out in spring of 2021 looking to adopted by the summer of next year, just to give you a general feel for that timing.

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Temple McKinnon: And due to the timing of this current planning cycle the deliverable date for the Council's report and our draft rules was proposed to coincide.

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Temple McKinnon: With out of the adopted regional water plans and October 14 as was mentioned.

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Temple McKinnon: That for the next planning cycle a deliverable date of the Council's report is proposed to occur in advance of the initially prepared plans so that planning groups have time to take into consideration, any of the Council's recommendations during their plan development.

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Temple McKinnon: And then as for membership and Future Planning cycles our draft rules state each planning group will be required to submit an alternate as well as their nominations, just so our boards can then report an alternate that has

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Temple McKinnon: You know, should not be able to serve during their term, there's an alternative that has the ability to step in and

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Temple McKinnon: Nominee and the alternate must be voting members of the planning group

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Temple McKinnon: So although we didn't get any additional support for the Council as Director Jackson stated, we're here to support you in your direction of meeting your legislative charges and

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Temple McKinnon: Including report preparation, we've established a website to put information up so just let us know how we can assist you with your goals. Thanks.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Anyone have any questions of Temple or Matt if he since he's still here, I think.

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Suzanne Schwartz: I think maybe we can move off of this screen because I can't see people

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Suzanne Schwartz: There. Yeah. Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Anybody have any questions or is this a quick time for comment about the

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Suzanne Schwartz: About the Council's charge anything you want to state, we're going to get into some discussion later about, you know, where you'll have an opportunity to actually talk about what it is you want to do. But if this is if you have questions. This is a good time to raise them.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, then I would propose that I guess one other I guess one other questions on this. Does anyone have any concerns about your about the the Council's charge or any of the information you've gotten so far.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, then we'll move on. We are going the third. We're going to skip. Now, I think, agenda item number four will come back to the agenda item number three.

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Suzanne Schwartz: After we finished. Number four, but we just looking at it again. I think that the better flow is to move to number four and agenda item number four is to consider.

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Suzanne Schwartz: The how how

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Suzanne Schwartz: Excuse me, to consider a current best practices and areas to improve. So one of the one of the issues that one of the things that were noted in the

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Suzanne Schwartz: Legislative charge was to share best practices. So we thought we just take a minute and start with that effort right now. And what I'd like to do

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Suzanne Schwartz: So that we can again I'm just trying to figure out how we can all best interact by zoom. What I'd really like to do is to just pose that question to you all is to share one best practice that you would you'd want to share with everyone else from this current this current or past

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Suzanne Schwartz: regional planning processes.

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Suzanne Schwartz: And what I probably the easiest way to do this is to start

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Suzanne Schwartz: With one of the regions and we'll just go through the list. I'm going to just randomly start with region.

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Suzanne Schwartz: L, just because it's somewhere near the middle of the alphabet and sorry I didn't give you any warning I'll start somewhere on the other end for the next one. So just be prepared a little

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Suzanne Schwartz: And I don't always like to just go through this and, you know, put some people on the spot. If you don't want to talk at this point. That's fine.

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Suzanne Schwartz: We'll, we'll look will do one or two rounds, depending on how long this is taking and just but just a good time to share what you think are some best practices.

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Suzanne Scott: Well, the first thing that came to mind for me since I'm called right now is one thing that we did this last cycle is we did what was called guiding principles that we actually added into our operational.

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Suzanne Scott: Handbook, if you will, for

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Suzanne Scott: Our kind of bylaws, if you will, for the committee, what we had found in the last cycle is that there were a lot of different misunderstandings, or maybe

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Suzanne Scott: A variety of understandings about how we should approach different things, like for example.

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Suzanne Scott: How, what should be the guiding principle as it relates to management supplies mean how much more water do we want

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Suzanne Scott: Than what is actually needed. I mean, there

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Suzanne Scott: Were some ideas that we had talked about that.

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Suzanne Scott: And we came up as a big issue in the last planning cycle. So this planning cycle we kind of came up with some guiding principles we also came up with a guiding principle as a related to how

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Suzanne Scott: How we want to put projects in different in different categories is recommended all our alternative you know what was going to guide that and we felt it was very important to do these guiding principles, before we started the planning process before we were actually looking at projects.

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Suzanne Scott: And any of the any of the issues that would come up during the process because we felt by having those

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Suzanne Scott: Guiding Principles and everyone on the same page. It was going to help us through the process and honestly

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Suzanne Scott: I referred as the chair I refer to this guiding principle several times during the deliberation and putting that initially prepared plan together.

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Suzanne Scott: Because sometimes, there would be definition issues where people would

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Suzanne Scott: Maybe bring up something and we'd say, No, no, wait a minute, we had we all agreed during this guiding principle to approach this in this way and I pull out my book and go through, you know, and bring it up and we talked about it.

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Suzanne Scott: So, and then everyone realized. All right. Those were the rules of the game, and we were part of that process to begin with.

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Suzanne Scott: So I thought it really helped in clarifying some of the issues that maybe

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Suzanne Scott: causes some problems in the first in the previous round. We've actually mentioned it in our chapter eight for the previous round that we were going to do it.

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Suzanne Scott: And then we did it this round.

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Suzanne Scott: So I would say that it was very it worked real well and allowed us to address issues that came up in our region. Everybody would have different guiding principles, because

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Suzanne Scott: They know what happens with their own district it within their own region. But for us, it was very helpful.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you so much. I'm going to Region M, Tomas

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Suzanne Schwartz: Do you have any guiding principles you want to share and you're you're on mute right now.

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Suzanne Schwartz: So we can't hear you.

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Tomas Rodriguez:
Got it. I forgot to push the button but no

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Tomas Rodriguez: I don't have anything to add at this point.

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Tomas Rodriguez: I'll listen to the rest of the Regions work, and see what else I can learn

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Suzanne Schwartz: Excellent, we'll have another round if we want people if you want to add something we'll just see if anybody's got any additional ones so that that brings us up to N, Carl

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Carl Crull: Well, I think one of the major things that going through this process, a couple of times is from the public standpoint.

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Carl Crull: The division between planning and implementation, we had public comment at our various meetings.

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Carl Crull: A lot of the public.

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Carl Crull: Viewed our role as, you know, identifying these plans and implementing them and I think

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Carl Crull: Needs to be some

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Carl Crull: You know, some clarity there at least out to the public that you know this is a Planning Organization and and it's up to somebody else to

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Carl Crull: Provide for the implementation. I think the other issue for Region N is

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Carl Crull: You know, we, we have a very large component of our water supply is industrial and

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Carl Crull: You know, the, the projects to support those industries is some times opposed by others who have various agendas, so

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Carl Crull: Those two things that are important to try to figure out in and all this process.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you. Thank you. Um, then, O, Melanie

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Melanie Barnes: Okay, I'm unmuted.

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Melanie Barnes:
I think

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Melanie Barnes: Well, one of the things that was nice.

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Melanie Barnes: About this round. We actually had new members, but we

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Melanie Barnes: Had fresh idea and really good discussions in the group and and we did a couple things.

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Melanie Barnes: We when we had quite sessions about a certain component of our water planning, we actually would bring in experts to give

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Melanie Barnes: talks to us and explain things like we learned about how many drops of water every cow, no matter whether they're in a feedlot or their dairy or how much they drink and things like that. And I think that helped the whole group with the

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Melanie Barnes: Was being used were very different entities and had a firmer grasp of

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Melanie Barnes:
Why the amount of water was being either used or wished for.

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Melanie Barnes: In in each one of our user groups.

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Melanie Barnes: The discussion, we also kind of streamlined gave a little more guidance to the public as far as when they could comment but our group is such that we actually invite public sometimes to ask questions during certain parts, but mostly it's comments at the end and then

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Melanie Barnes: For us, we finally had a really good discussion. And part of this was our the engineering firm and the person who was facilitating us both having a geology.

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Melanie Barnes: And water background, we had a really good discussion in this group as to how we want to let the rest of the state, know that we understand where your assets we use it. But we also understand that if it's not

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Melanie Barnes: There, it doesn't get used

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Melanie Barnes: So though our

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Melanie Barnes: AG is a huge, huge

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Melanie Barnes: component they and they're shifting to dry land and things like that. So they put out there what

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Melanie Barnes: They want

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But that doesn't mean that's what they use, and we're

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Melanie Barnes: Trying to figure out how we get that across to the rest of the state. So that's in our okay we'll do this next time, but we're getting a lot of help from the

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Melanie Barnes: engineering firm. We're working with as far as how to phrase it and how to express that, you know, we're not the bad guys, we're not using up all of Texas Water which we want we can up here.

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Melanie Barnes: And and i think that this is the first time we had a really good discussion between all the different components.

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Melanie Barnes: Of the group people who wanted to not use water and have springs and people who said no we need this for our livelihood. So it was a great understanding and i i think the fact that we kept bringing in experts.

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Melanie Barnes: To give us the background helped everybody get on the same playing field.

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Melanie Barnes: And that that was so I would say, you know, best practices to

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Melanie Barnes: When you need to take the time to be informed about the group's you're working with, because we all have different ideas as to what those groups should or shouldn't be doing with their water. And so it definitely helps.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Great, thank you so much for sharing. P, Patrick.

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Patrick Brzozowski: I don't have a lot to add to the conversation on

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Patrick Brzozowski: The best management practices. I will say that, given the resources we have available to us here.

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Patrick Brzozowski: We did spend quite a bit more time during the cycle really focusing on

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Patrick Brzozowski: The projects that we're going to be part of the plan from the standpoint of being able to permit those to finance. Those are construct those really looking at

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Patrick Brzozowski: What could be initiated for real, not just from a planning perspective, going forward, and

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Patrick Brzozowski: And that's an all sectors.

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Patrick Brzozowski: Were predominantly AG use

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Patrick Brzozowski: In the region, as you know, most of the water.

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Patrick Brzozowski: Most of the surface water is used outside the region.

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Patrick Brzozowski: And so

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Patrick Brzozowski: We've had a variety projects on the books for several plans.

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Patrick Brzozowski: Now that

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Patrick Brzozowski: Have been changed, moved around, based on what we

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Patrick Brzozowski: can permit, what we can finance.

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Patrick Brzozowski: And what we thought

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Patrick Brzozowski: we could construct so

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Patrick Brzozowski: The group did a good job working through those

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you, Patrick. Steve for Region A

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Steve Walthour: I think the best management practices that we use a

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Steve Walthour: Has worked since the inception of the regional water planning

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Steve Walthour:
Process is

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Steve Walthour: We work with the Panhandle Regional Planning Commission, which is

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Steve Walthour:
a COG

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Steve Walthour: Council of Governments that actually does all the Administration for us.

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Steve Walthour: And handles billing. We bill our entities to help pay for the process depending on their Tax Valuation or some other method. And then we they work with donations, also. They've been really good because they've always been focused and provided really high quality.

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Steve Walthour: Personnel to help us.

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Steve Walthour: With our planning process.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Russell for B

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Suzanne Schwartz: Is Russell Schreiber still there.

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Russell Schreiber: Can you hear me now. Yes. Sorry, I've got, I've got the video up on my app or the all you guys my iPad. But I'm talking to you through my phone. So I guess I can't use both. But if you can hear me now.

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Russell Schreiber: Some of the things that we did differently with this planning cycle was actually went through the new drought record from 11 through 2015

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Russell Schreiber: And our reservoirs got down to roughly less than 19% we found out that you know the planning cycle or planning for water supply in the firm yield in the same field and that type of limitation really really didn't fit very well up here.

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Russell Schreiber: If you guys ever get your reservoir down to 18 and 19% you find out how hard that water is actually treat and in the previous planning process

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Russell Schreiber: Using the firm yield and sometimes you get to modify that a little bit bump that up to say field in the planning process. We worked with Water Development Board and they were very cooperative with us and understood that we actually bumped

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Russell Schreiber: Us a 20% save yeild this planning cycle. So

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Russell Schreiber: That's something that's new for us up here and just wanted to share that with the group in case you ever

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Russell Schreiber: Get to those

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Russell Schreiber: Drastic levels in your supplies.

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Russell Schreiber: That it gets pretty

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Russell Schreiber: It gets pretty scary when your supplies get that low and having the ability to plan for those not to get that low in the future is very helpful.

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Russell Schreiber: Something that the Water Development Board would consider as you move forward.

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Russell Schreiber: Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Did you want to add something else. I'm sorry  I thought you were finished.

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Russell Schreiber: I'm finished, thanks.
Suzanne Schwartz:
Okay, great.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Kevin for Region C.

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Suzanne Schwartz: You're on mute right now.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Kevin, you're on mute.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Muted

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Kevin Ward: unmuted it, you're good. Thank you. Can you hear me now.

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Kevin Ward: Yes, that's weird. Okay, so the phone is got

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Suzanne Schwartz: Now I can't, we can't hear you.

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Kevin Ward: Okay, I think, Vicki had to undo me because I'm on a phone. Okay, I'm doing phone audio and I'm doing the video on the computer. I don't know what's going on with this zoom. I've had zoom meetings all week or last week and it never was a problem but

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Kevin Ward: What we we had a lot of changes to everything from the demographic, you know, population projections to water use to that was, you know, after the Water Board and looked at things.

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Kevin Ward: And we also had a lot of projects that got implemented from previous water plans several large projects, particularly reuse projects.

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Kevin Ward: And it changed numbers on us drastically because you know the projections we had in original earlier water plans and I just give you an example or reuse from Trinity regional treatment plants. Trinity River Authority was originally estimated over 200 MGD and it was

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Kevin Ward: An alternate strategy for at least three different groups, different regional providers and that now has, you know, the more realistic amount is about 150 MGDs

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Kevin Ward: For current levels and the growth is projected a lot slower. So we've got some of those implemented.

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Kevin Ward: We did a lot more work on water conservation practices and documenting how we were using that. We started studying aquifer storage and recharge. But one of the things that we really stayed true to, and it's a one of the things that I think that, you know, you were there.

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Kevin Ward: Suzanne. You heard it straight from the horse's mouth.

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Kevin Ward: From Governor Bullock, and that was that he he said this was supposed to be from a bottom up planning.

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Kevin Ward: And so we let the water user groups working with the regional providers, tell us what their projects are and then we

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Kevin Ward: Attempt to reconcile them and put them in a water plan. We don't believe it's the role of the regional water planning group to dictate to the folks out there that what they're supposed to do.

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Kevin Ward: That's not the role of regional water planning group and because of that.

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Kevin Ward: It went fairly smoothly there. You know, of course, some of the folks that are there that aren't really representing the user or representing

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Kevin Ward: A group that that has to plan for water have some problems with it because they might disagree with what we're trying to do, because they just don't like industry or they don't like development or whatever. And they're having they're struggling with the numbers and

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Kevin Ward: They, they, they try to find ways to challenge the numbers, but

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Kevin Ward: The numbers are pretty solid.

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Kevin Ward: With what we need and we believe in a bit conservative. We did allow for instance, some providers, we've got large regional providers like Dallas water utilities, Tarrant regional water district, North Texas for water district, Upper Trinity. They're all large and

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Kevin Ward: That some have preferred to go with a safe yield projection for instance on your reservoirs and others are still going with firm yield.

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Kevin Ward: It makes a big difference in the calculations, but because of the the bottom up planning process we allow for that. And of course, you have to get

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Kevin Ward: approval from the Water Board on any of that. So it's moved pretty well. And I think that, you know, from a best management practices, I believe we

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Kevin Ward: We just really have tried to make sure the numbers work and we stay really clear with all of that and I'm going to mute. I'm not on the hour here with my weird clock.

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Kevin Ward: Okay.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thanks. Thank you, Kevin. I'm so Region D, Jim.

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Jim Thompson: I don't have anything to add on the best management practice.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay. Thank you, Jim.

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Suzanne Schwartz: E. Scott

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Scott Reinert: Hi, one of the things we're trying to do in El Paso was discuss a kind of a road map for the future use of reclaimed water, see if it's realistic and gradually increase it as a potential supply source.

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Scott Reinert: While the other things we've one of the unintended consequences of swift funding is that we actually had too many projects and

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Scott Reinert: We want to fully benefit from swift funding, but when we're explaining all these projects to our public

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Scott Reinert: It was kind of confusing. So we're going to dial it back this next round of planning and have fewer projects.

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Scott Reinert: But we're also using the concept of an alternate projects where they're evaluated by the state, and they're eligible for funding, but they're not listed in our, our featured plan that we show our public. So I think it shows that we're

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Scott Reinert: Have some contingencies in place, but yet, we're not showing the public all these numerous strategies I think this 2016 plan we had

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Scott Reinert: As many as 16 strategies I think now we're going to have about half as many and I think it works better for the messaging of that. Another thing we're working on as the

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Scott Reinert: In each decade, how much excess water supply do you want to have in your plan. We're kind of, we don't want to have too much excess supply, but yet

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Scott Reinert: Have enough that might cover us. So it's maybe 5000 or 10,000 acre feet excess per decade. So those are kind of things in El Paso that we're working through

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you. And then F Allison.

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Allison Strube: Don't have a lot to add to this other than I agree with Kevin's remarks about the bottom up approach, I think region F has done a good job of

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Allison Strube: Each user group kind of providing which strategies work best for them or projects that work best for them. And I think that's a big part of the engineering firm that we have doing the region F plan and also them reaching out to other regions and making sure that

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Allison Strube: What we are proposing in our plan is consistent and not

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Allison Strube: Contradicting I guess another plan.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Then G, Gail.

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Gail Peek: One of the things that we have found in Region G

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Gail Peek: Is looking at

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Gail Peek: Some of the smaller things. I agree with many of the comments. One of the things we've learned is that when new member come on, they may not be totally familiar with the obligations

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Gail Peek:
Of

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Gail Peek: Serving on a board

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Gail Peek: So we have an orientation process for new members so that they can learn about meeting and open meeting rules.

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Gail Peek:
And how by

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Gail Peek: In Region G. And then the other thing we've done is try constantly to increase participation, finding new ways to network with people to get that bottom up.

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Gail Peek: Input that was mentioned earlier in the comments on best practice.

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Suzanne Schwartz: You so much and then H, Mark.

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Mark Evans: I would just second what has previously been said if you can hear me okay Suzanne.

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Suzanne Schwartz: I can. I'm sorry, I'm there was a helicopter flying over. I was trying to mute myself.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Yes.
Mark Evans:
I would just second

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Mark Evans: A second from Region H. It's kind of hard, I think sometimes chair to say, what's your, what's your best management practices are, what you're doing right but i think adhering to the original philosophy of regional planning a bottoms up approach.

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Mark Evans: You know allowing for free and open dialogue.

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Mark Evans: And the full participation of our membership.

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Mark Evans: Is probably I think from my perspective, probably would be the strength of the region H planning group.

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Mark Evans:
Pretty well, any issue that a member

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Mark Evans: Thinks is worthy of discussion

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Mark Evans: The other members, look at it as

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Mark Evans: It's worth a certain certainly worthy of being discussed at the planning group level.

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Right.

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Suzanne Schwartz:
Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Kelley.

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Kelley Holcomb: Thanks. Suzanne I'm Region I is a little different than the other regions of the state. We are a water rich portion of the region of the state. Excuse me.

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Kelley Holcomb: Therefore, we don't have a lot of regional conflicts, like other regions typically have.

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Kelley Holcomb: I think we worked well in times past, especially this last planning cycle. We've had more interaction with regions, C and D than we ever have historically across the other planning processes. Our biggest issue that we continue to face in this part of the world is a general

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Kelley Holcomb: Lack of input and a lack of concern for the water supply, because we are a water rich portion of the state, so

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Kelley Holcomb: Our issues are slightly different than the rest of y'all is our meetings are largely unintended largely

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Kelley Holcomb: No conflicts, no issues to resolve. So I feel blessed in that regard, not having to manage some of those processes. Having said that, we got water for sale so when y'all need it come, all you got to do is call.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you. And then J, Ray.

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Ray Buck:
Thank you. I've heard some

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Ray Buck: Good comments I've had an opportunity to serve on a two regional water planning groups and one region J is small and interestingly what I see the strength of region J is one of the practices we use is transparency. Our chairman.

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Ray Buck: Almost ad nauseum allows us to talk through processes and be able to come to a consensus, rather than politicizing

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Ray Buck: A lot of those solutions. And so I think when we reach a conclusion, it's accepted by the majority of our players.

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Ray Buck: Interestingly, the most divisive issue we've dealt with hasn't been a water supply issue, per se. It was ecologically unique stream segment issue.

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Ray Buck: And I thought that people are going to start bringing guns to some of our meetings that was so divisive. But I think the transparency as you let them talk through that and we reached an acceptable compromise that satisfied everyone.

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Suzanne Schwartz: All right, thank you so much and then k, David.

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David Wheelock: Yeah, so all the lines of best management practices and say that

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David Wheelock: K has been following pretty much status quo. And so I guess maybe that's a best management practice because we do it, but it's actually we're kind of it on autopilot for maybe too many cycles and so

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David Wheelock: That's a little bit of a negative. But then on the other hand, I'll also say that I think regional planning in region K and also the other regions.

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David Wheelock: Continues to be a real success story with the communications of water issues to all the interest groups. So, so that's a, that's a good thing. And we certainly do that in
K.

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David Wheelock: One one small item. It hasn't been its worked but needs to work better. We made a conscious effort the last cycle then we'll do it this cycle to think ahead of what needs help. What issues we need to confront or deal with or discuss in the next planning cycle that weren't

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David Wheelock: Considered thoroughly enough in this current cycle and and I'm looking forward to this progress this process, because I think it might help K in some of those regards. That's all. Thanks.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you so much.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Is there anything any, do any of you have anything that that you think worked that was missed that is a best practice, you just like to throw out here.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay. I really enjoyed hearing your stories. I think that show a lot of insight. A lot of of of

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Suzanne Schwartz: insight into how you work with each other and how you work, work through issues. So I'm, I'm looking forward to having you do use all of those practices here in our meetings, meetings together so

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Suzanne Schwartz: With that, we're going to move to the next part of this agenda item which is to think about the issues that we that you all would like to consider for this council to address. And I asked.

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Suzanne Schwartz: So what I'm hoping to do is another kind of run through your through you all with a statement about one what one issue that you would like to consider the Council to consider to accomplish its charges and the charges are up here right now on the screen. We

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Suzanne Schwartz: You can if you want to keep them up. I guess we could do that just to kind of

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Suzanne Schwartz: Think it might be helpful to you as you're thinking through what charges you think this Council should look at. And what I'd like to do again is just go through

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Suzanne Schwartz: You all in a regional order. So it's somewhat orderly, I want to tell you how, what we're going to do with this process right now though we have

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Suzanne Schwartz: We're going to create a poll, a list of issues as we go through this generation of ideas.

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Suzanne Schwartz: And so after you talk, I'm going to kind of try to paraphrase what I think I heard you say so that Vicki Read can be putting the issue into a list that you'll then as a group

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Suzanne Schwartz: Indicate your top four choices on so it'll generate some ideas, it'll give us a sense of where where you all as a, as the Council members thinks

591
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Suzanne Schwartz: Which ones you think are the most important. So if you'll be patient and I know it's going to sound like I'm repeating, repeating what you said, but I'm just trying to make sure Vicki.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Gets down the issue to put on to the poll, and then we'll see how this works. So we'll go through it one time, I am happy to go through the

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Suzanne Schwartz: Then after we've gone through each region will take additional issues you think have been missed that you'd like the Council to consider what you think are important to to accomplish with charges. So let's see. I'm going to start. How about if I start with

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Suzanne Schwartz: Region A this time. Steve will will start at the top of the alphabet.

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Steve Walthour:
Let me take you off mute.

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Steve Walthour: I think that whatever the method is is that we would go through and deal with the regional conflict probably needs to be addressed more formally.

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Steve Walthour: And how we would

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Steve Walthour: Handle that process.

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Suzanne Schwartz: So you're saying you'd like to make sure I understand this, you'd like to see a the see the Council to

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Suzanne Schwartz: Make a recommendation on a form of a formal way to handle interregional conflicts.

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Steve Walthour: No, no process itself. How we would operate.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Oh, okay. So you want to develop a formal process for the Council to consider interregional conflicts.

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Steve Walthour: Yes.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay. Did you get that Vicki.

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Vicki Read: One more time, please.

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Suzanne Schwartz: F for the Council to create a formal process by which they will

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Suzanne Schwartz: Consider interregional conflicts, is that correct

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Suzanne Schwartz: Steve. Yes. Okay.

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Great. Yes.

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Suzanne Schwartz: I just want to make sure we get the wording down. So we have a chance

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Suzanne Schwartz:
To look I

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Suzanne Schwartz: Got it correctly.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, Russell. Do you have one for Region B.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Russell

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Suzanne Schwartz: I don't know if you're still there, or if you

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Russell Schreiber: Yes, I'm sorry.

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Suzanne Schwartz: That's okay.

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Russell Schreiber: I don't know that I have

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Russell Schreiber: Any kind of anything to add.

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Suzanne Schwartz:
Okay, well, we'll

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Suzanne Schwartz: Give you an opportunity to think of something as we as we move through this

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Suzanne Schwartz: Kevin, Region C.

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Kevin Ward:
All right. Can you hear me.

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Kevin Ward: Yes. Okay, good. Okay. So, first and foremost, I think that the Council needs to evaluate why there's double standards for the amount of documentation required on large regional projects.

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Kevin Ward: There's any interregional or large regional projects that have any amount of controversy at all seem to be held to a much, much higher standard.

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Kevin Ward: Particularly when they're opposed. Whereas the folks a lot of times that are opposing them fill out other

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Kevin Ward: Large high regional sometimes even interstate contracts, not just interregional. It might even be involved along the pipelines and all

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Kevin Ward: Without any desire to have any additional evaluation on those as compared to a lot of things that are in the water plan right now. They're just listed as projects that really haven't been

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Kevin Ward: haven't gone through the permitting process, they don't have all that detail and yet.

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Kevin Ward: There seems to be an expectation and there seemed to be a public outcry for that. If you don't have all that, then suddenly you shouldn't even have it in your water plan.

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Kevin Ward: And that's problematic. There's no standards and there needs to be an even keel on that and I think rulemaking through the Water Development Board or maybe some guidance from the legislature would be helpful in that. And also, that's one

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Kevin Ward: One.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Can I, I'm going to summarize that and get it down and we'll come back to you for another one. I'm

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Suzanne Schwartz: Hoping to get one idea from everyone, and then we'll come back.

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Kevin Ward: You know, I've got a list.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Which is great and we'll get it down, but I'd like to just make sure we cycle through everybody first

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Suzanne Schwartz: If that's okay

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01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:51,480
Suzanne Schwartz: Would a summary of that be that Vicki can capture be that to say develop

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Suzanne Schwartz: Develop guy.

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Suzanne Schwartz:
Develop guidelines.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Or rules about this.

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The

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Kevin Ward: Minimum documentation required for a project to be in the water point.

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Kevin Ward: Develop selected strategy.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay.

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Kevin Ward: To make sure it's consistent

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, develop guidance on minimum standards for a project to be included in the

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Suzanne Schwartz:
In the

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Suzanne Schwartz: Water plans.

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Kevin Ward: That it's consistent
Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki. Did you get that consistent

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Suzanne Schwartz: Develop consistent standards for a project to be included in the regional water plans.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay. Thank you, Kevin.

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Suzanne Schwartz: And then Jim.

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Jim Thompson: Yeah, I think I would agree that one of the things we need to focus on is

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Jim Thompson: The problem with the interregional conflicts and how to resolve those problems and I

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Jim Thompson: Don't know. I certainly would

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Jim Thompson: take issue with some of the things Kevin said which Kevin I seem to always take issues with either each other's point. We've had a long standing dispute between region D. That goes back Region D and Region C that goes back decades over proposed project in the Texas.

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Jim Thompson: Water plan. The Marvin Nichols project. There have been numerous efforts to try to resolve that and move forward with respect to it and

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Jim Thompson: We see seem to keep coming up with the same problem. So I think there should be some discussion as far as guidelines regarding how to resolve these interregional conflicts and what are the basis for resolving it and what are the pertinent facts  with respect to them.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, so a formal way to resolve interregional

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Conflicts

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Jim Thompson: Yeah, and what

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Suzanne Schwartz: I'm trying to remember what was said what Steve said for A.  Was that, was that included. Vicki, what did the first issue say

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Vicki Read: Develop a formal process by which the Council will deal with regional conflicts.

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Suzanne Schwartz:
Okay, it

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Suzanne Schwartz: Steve, what's your regional conflict or interregional conflicts.

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Steve Walthour: It's regional conflicts.

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Suzanne Schwartz: You're just regional and so then we'll have this one for interregional. Okay. Did you get that Vicki that this will be a formal way to resolve interregional conflicts.

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Vicki Read: Got it.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, thank you so much, Jim, and then E. Scott.

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Scott Reinert: Nothing to add. Right now, okay.

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Suzanne Schwartz: F. Allison.

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Allison Strube:
Nothing to add on this item.

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Allison Strube: Right now.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, G, Gail. Again, we're looking at what the issue, issue for the Council to consider.

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Gail Peek: I agree with all the previous comments that the issue of regional and interregional conflict it exists and a formal process is helpful. But even before then. Now,

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Gail Peek: All of our groups have liaisons that presumably will help in understanding the positions, somehow, I'd like this council to have a step before a formal process we're actually looking at strategies that cross

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Gail Peek: planning group lines. I mean, we see them. We know them, but we don't really explore them as deeply before we get to that formal process so that we have a more clear set of guidelines of what kinds of issues come to the Council and what kinds can be resolved prior to coming to the Council.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, so a formal, tell me if this is an accurate summary, a formal process for the Council to look at projects that cross region, across regions.

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Gail Peek: Yes, and even before then, a kind of what kind of informal steps.

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Gail Peek:
Preceded that

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, so a formal and informal process.

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Gail Peek:
Correct.
Suzanne Schwartz:
Okay.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki, you got it.

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Suzanne Schwartz:
Okay, thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Mark

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Suzanne Schwartz: I'm sorry.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Yeah, Mark.

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Mark Evans:
I wouldn't have anything to

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Mark Evans: Add other than what's contained in HB 807 related to the purposes

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Suzanne Schwartz:
Okay, um,

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Suzanne Schwartz: Is there anything up there that it

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Suzanne Schwartz: Would be an issue that hasn't been mentioned yet that you'd want to include in our little polling.

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Mark Evans: Not at this time. Suzanne Schwartz:
Okay, thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz:
Kelley.

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Kelley Holcomb:
I'm going to take a slightly different tack.

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Kelley Holcomb: On this with the question. First is the stakeholder committee process that were started in 2013 still active and alive.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Temple or Matt.

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Temple McKinnon: Well,

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Temple McKinnon: Hey, Kelley  what was 2013 stakeholder process or yeah

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Kelley Holcomb: It was a stakeholder process that was created by the Leg for Project prioritization.

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Temple McKinnon:
Yep.

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Temple McKinnon:
Yep. That exists.

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Kelley Holcomb: That process still exists for project.

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Kelley Holcomb: Well, I know the prioritization still exists, but is the process of you remember the last time we met there was copious amounts of

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Kelley Holcomb: Debate and deliberation over who was supposed to do what what the law required and other sundry topics. I don't think that was ever resolved. Is that a potential topic that could be resolved here as part of this process.

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Matt Nelson: I think i think that other

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Matt Nelson: Group for prioritization uniform standards is really focused on one thing and that is what they would probably would need to work out for themselves as that group.

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Kelley Holcomb: Right Matt.

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Matt Nelson: That broad of a scope that they're tasked with just in general, that's my two cents on that.

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Kelley Holcomb:
Well, I wouldn't disagree with what you

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Kelley Holcomb: Said, except for the fact that by having sat on that one a couple of times as well, We couldn't make a decision on what what we were supposed to be doing so.

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Kelley Holcomb: Some of that general oversight process which

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Kelley Holcomb: Feeds directly into

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Kelley Holcomb: You know bullet number three. That's where I sit in terms of the prioritization. But again, that's just my, my take on the matter.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Kelley, so is there anyway you could word that

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Suzanne Schwartz: Idea for us to put that in a list of things

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Suzanne Schwartz: Of the issues you want the Council to consider.

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Kelley Holcomb: Oh Suzanne,I can't, I can't say things and very few very few words. It's not my nature to talk that way. Um, I provide, I would suppose that we would be I think we need to look at providing guidance to the stakeholder process, the stakeholder committee process with regard to

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Kelley Holcomb: How what's required for prioritization processes.

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Kelley Holcomb: Because I have their very own unique charge if they need some help

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Kelley Holcomb:
Structuring that process.

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Suzanne Schwartz: So some guidance to the group that is

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Suzanne Schwartz: Doing this, the uniform standards on

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Kelley Holcomb: On how they

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Suzanne Schwartz: develop their prioritization process their prioritization process.

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Kelley Holcomb: Sounds good to me.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki you got that

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Vicki Read: Can we have it one more time.

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Suzanne Schwartz: I probably will get it the same but guidance to the the uniform

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Suzanne Schwartz: Standards stakeholder group.

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Suzanne Schwartz: On their

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Suzanne Schwartz: Development of prioritization of

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Suzanne Schwartz: Projects. How's that

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Suzanne Schwartz: It's a little differently worded, I'm sure.

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Vicki Read: Okay.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you, Kelley and then Ray

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Ray Buck: I have nothing to add right now.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay. Thank you, David.

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David Wheelock: So I'll use an example that's specific to K, which may or may not have any applicability to other regions, maybe it does. Um, our largest municipal water demand areas is Austin. Austin metro

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David Wheelock: And region K our planning region is only one county across, it's Travis County, but the metro area is three counties. It's Williamson, Travis and Hayes, if not actually larger than that.

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David Wheelock: And so we don't really look at the metro area in our planning, we just looked at some of the entities within it.

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David Wheelock: So I would offer that and K could do we could work with regions G to the north and L to the south, those regions could work with us.

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David Wheelock: We haven't really necessarily needed to yet, but I think we could do a lot better job of coming up with a water plan that was appropriate or applicable for the Austin area.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, so

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Suzanne Schwartz: We have. So for the purposes, then

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Suzanne Schwartz: I think what I'm hearing you saying is provide maybe develop what develop

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Suzanne Schwartz: Guidance for regions to work better to coordinate their planning better together.

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David Wheelock: Um no I would I would come at the direction and say,

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These

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David Wheelock: Are the are the metro and in this case, often is, it's a metro or the metropolitan area is

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David Wheelock: Looked at

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David Wheelock: As a regional as a regional plan, separate from our is not sub divided by the planning area.

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David Wheelock:
Boundaries.
Suzanne Schwartz:
So you're saying

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Suzanne Schwartz: For ways for metropolitan areas.

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Suzanne Schwartz: To plan together.

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Suzanne Schwartz: In conjunction with regional planning or

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David Wheelock: Yeah, and to be honest with you, I really hadn't thought that through until you brought it up in this meeting up. So yeah, we may only need to work on the word wording, but I think I think I got the concept across

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Suzanne Schwartz: So So Vicki. I think capturing it safe to develop a guidance for metropolitan areas to work for a metropolitan area to work within multiple regional water planning processes. Would that be good, David.

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David Wheelock: Yeah. And that, that's fine. And there may not be an example in Texas, other than Austin. Does that I'm

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David Wheelock: Not thinking of another one that's similar. Okay.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Um Suzanne.

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Suzanne Scott: I'm not really thinking of anything else. Right now, it may come up as we go through this. I mean,

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Suzanne Scott: Most of the issues that we've had.

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Suzanne Scott: have sort of been resolved through many of the rulemaking tweaks that have been made over time.

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Suzanne Scott: So I'm just my  memory is not coming clean right now with other issues that I think this group could do. I mean, I obviously the regional coordination, I think is important.

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Suzanne Scott: I think having the I do agree with what Kelley was saying about that uniform standards committee. I think we got to the point that we brought up a lot of issues, but then ultimately couldn't do much with them once we brought them up. So I do think that would be good to think about that.

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Suzanne Scott: I mean the only issue, but I think it's really resolved at the Water Development Board level is, you know, the population projections process and

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Suzanne Scott: You know if if through that process, you know, if you, if you want to adjust the population projections, you kind of, you have to stay within the same boundaries of your region. You can't change that and

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Suzanne Scott: So we've come in. There's been a couple of times when you know people have wanted to modify that. But you're sort of confined to

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Suzanne Scott: The numbers that you're given for your region. So you have to rob from Peter to pay Paul, you got to move people around in the same region. But I mean most of those have been resolved through the process. So I'm not sure it's still a problem at this point. So I would say

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Suzanne Scott: I can't think of anything right now, other than, you know, continuing to have the the rulemaking process be responsive to the

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Suzanne Scott: changing conditions that we're seeing as the state continues to grow and challenges become more sophisticated, but I think they're doing a good job.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay. Do you want me to reflect on that to to have to

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Suzanne Schwartz: To, you know, consider ways for the rulemaking process to be more responsive to changing conditions would that

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Suzanne Scott: Be that would, that would be a good one.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Yes. Did you catch our thinking.

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Vicki Read: One more time, please.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Ways. Ways to make the rulemaking process more

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Suzanne Schwartz: Responsive to changing conditions.

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Vicki Read: Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, um, Tomas, do you have anything anything you'd like to add to the list of issues that the Council do you think the Council might want to consider.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Tomas you're muted and we can't hear you. I'm sorry.

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Tomas Rodriguez: Thank you very much. I forgot. Okay. In the process we have right now for the, you know, might say questions were asked to regarding conflict between regions.

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Tomas Rodriguez: That the only only way we can determine that, that is my point of view, is to go look at that, the other regions plans that they have

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Tomas Rodriguez: And then determine their if there's any conflicts, but I think we're important for the situation.

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Tomas Rodriguez: Where you when you read all these different projects you could tell where the conflict would be. And so I'm agreeing with some of the previous people that mentioned that a formal process has to be done so that

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Tomas Rodriguez: We can communicate and share our opinions as to whether or not we agree with a plan, another region might have on the water resource. And are we have a very

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Tomas Rodriguez: Different situation. Everybody has their own situation, but ours is obviously we rely on Mexico they give us 350,000 acre feet per year. And when they don't, then

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Tomas Rodriguez: Our lower Valley suffers more than some other because they do we do use water down there. But the other part is, if we're looking at water coming in from the

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Tomas Rodriguez: Concho River, which is charging out. I mean, Amistad them. Well that's recharging the aquifers in that area. And so folks are thinking of selling water from their ranches and that concerns us, but this is where I think the Water Development Board needs to

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Tomas Rodriguez: Get more involved. I'm going to go to one other thing and I don't mean to insult anybody. The State of Texas right now has  right of capture

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Tomas Rodriguez: New Mexico has a right to capture and also on the aquifers surface water to have a different formula. We're gonna have to look at that somewhere in the future, but that's

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Tomas Rodriguez: I'll stop right there. And the most important thing is how you, the Water Development Board could help us and coordinate between regions. Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, so, so would that be a would that be as a new issue to add to the list, would it be to how the Water Development or or would that be encompassed within the resolving interregional conflicts. I'm not quite sure I'm I fully understand what you're saying.

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Tomas Rodriguez: Okay. Um, I would go with

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Tomas Rodriguez: Another gentleman said we need a formal process. And I would agree with the formal process that would include

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Tomas Rodriguez: Any conflicts between regions.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, great. Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you. Um Carl

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Carl Crull: Oh well, reading in has worked very well with the surrounding regions. And so I really haven't had a lot of conflicts.

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Carl Crull: With bought water from Lavaca-Navidad  River Authority and we've worked our differences with San Antonio folks on recharge Nueces river so

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Carl Crull: I really can't see that we've had a lot of, you know, at least for the region N a lot of regional conflict.

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Carl Crull: One thing I do see is the liaison between regions is

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Carl Crull: We have these liaisons but I'm not sure that there was a formal process to

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Carl Crull: exchange information. I know I get the emails from the surrounding regions because I'm the liaison, but

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Carl Crull: They just say, you know, here's the agenda, you go look at it and I think there needs to be a process that if there is, you know, something that's going to be put in a regional water plan, it's going to affect the surrounding region that there needs to be

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Carl Crull: A process for formal notification of that project.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, so, might that be, would that be a way to to say to

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Suzanne Schwartz: Review and consider ways for up to, to for regions to coordinate

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Suzanne Schwartz: On projects or  on projects from another region.

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Carl Crull: Right.

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Carl Crull: That would work.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, so, so Vicki that coordinate

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Suzanne Schwartz: Recommend ways to coordinate

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Suzanne Schwartz: Between regions on

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Suzanne Schwartz: Projects on projects involving shared water. Is that, I'm not sure that's phrased right either on

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Carl Crull: Well, if, if a region has a project that's going to impact the neighboring region there needs to be a more formalized process to notify

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Carl Crull: The surrounding region, other than just sending out the, you know, sending out an agenda.

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Carl Crull: Expecting somebody to go through it and weed out a project that may be a problem.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, so a formal process to work with.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Regions.

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Suzanne Schwartz: That may be impacted by a project.

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Right.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Got it.

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Vicki Read: I think so.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Um Melanie

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Melanie Barnes: Sorry.

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Melanie Barnes: I haven't really thought anything because we're in a different situation. We work well with region O, and there's a lot of communication between Amarillo and Lubbock and the other larger towns and we all share the same lock so

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Melanie Barnes: I'm I don't

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Melanie Barnes: Really have anything

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Melanie Barnes: To add to this. All the things that have been mentioned ahead make sense and particularly the last one, talking about how are you using those regional liaisons because I just started being one and I kind of feel like

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Melanie Barnes: A fly on the wall or something, not, not really.

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Melanie Barnes: There's not any interaction there may not need to be, but it sounds like in some other areas that really needs to be interaction with that liaison that liaison needs to come in and actually help the other group if they've got questions about certain projects so

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Suzanne Schwartz: Great, thank you.
Melanie Barnes:
Otherwise, that's it.

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Suzanne Schwartz:
Patrick

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Patrick Brzozowski: So, I've heard a lot about disputes and conflict and mirroring what Carl was talking about. We don't have a lot of conflicts.

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Patrick Brzozowski: It would be good to know how many planning regions.

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Patrick Brzozowski: Service water outside the region. That would be interesting little bit of information.

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Patrick Brzozowski: But improving coordination there again, playing on what Carl said and what Melanie said, I was liaison for a while. And sure enough you're a fly on the wall or so I felt that way.

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Patrick Brzozowski: You know we we all have consultants that work for the region and a lot of times those consultants also are consultants for other regions. And sometimes those are neighboring regions.

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Patrick Brzozowski: So they're a good source to say have first hand knowledge of potential conflicts. A lot of those consultants have been consultants for a long time and understand the projects that are being talked about. So anything we can do to improve coordination.

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Patrick Brzozowski: You know, I don't think it needs to happen at the end of the planning process. These things

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Patrick Brzozowski:
take years to develop

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Patrick Brzozowski: There needs to be some conversation up front. There needs to be something in the middle one. Some of these numbers are given to us by the by the board.

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Patrick Brzozowski: And then certainly before you come up with the officially prepared plan there needs to be a final conversation because in that time period.

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Patrick Brzozowski: As development has happened or developments are being planned or announced

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Patrick Brzozowski: conditions change.

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Patrick Brzozowski: So there needs to be some some final conversation, saying, well, we're not going to address in this plan, but just know that the next time we sit down. We're going to have to address it.

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Patrick Brzozowski: So,

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Patrick Brzozowski: You know, in years past, we've had conversations with, for instance.

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Patrick Brzozowski: GBRA on one side and LCRA on the  side we work with the city of Corpus Christi well

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Patrick Brzozowski: But if we can get the folks who are proposing the project that consultant and members of the planning region in the same room and it doesn't need to be a quorum. But just at least a meeting.

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Patrick Brzozowski: At least three times during the cycle.

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Patrick Brzozowski: It sure would be helpful.

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Suzanne Schwartz: So Patrick is that encompassed within within what Carl said to

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Patrick Brzozowski: You know, I think, somewhat, but I think there needs to be some definition. And I guess we can flesh that out as we go through this process.

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Patrick Brzozowski: But I'd like to see it more than just a meeting.

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Suzanne Schwartz:
To talk about if his this reflective to say, I mean,

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Suzanne Schwartz: As a process, I think we worded it is something like a process to work with regions on

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Suzanne Schwartz: I think it reflected projects that

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Suzanne Schwartz: might involve shared resources or something like that did, would yours go beyond that.

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Patrick Brzozowski: I'm not sure at this time we'll see where it goes.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, I'm happy to reflect this as a separate one if it

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Patrick Brzozowski: Doesn't need to be.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, okay, well we gone through everybody once. And I know Kevin had another idea at least he'd like to state. So what I'd like to do now is just if if if you all have other ideas about issues, you'd like to have

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Suzanne Schwartz: for the Council to consider. Well, we'll be taking those now. I'll start with Kevin since I know he had one already, and then

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Suzanne Schwartz: Just take it as people, if you'll just raise your hand, what if after Kevin talks, if

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Suzanne Schwartz: If you all have additionals to add.

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Kevin Ward: Right, so, you know,

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Kevin Ward: interregional conflicts, as we thought they were supposed to be defined a long time ago, were just supposed to be to enter two regions vying for the same resource, groundwater, surface water didn't matter.

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Kevin Ward: But because of the lawsuit that was lost.

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Kevin Ward: They took the provisions in the water planning code that require

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Kevin Ward: Region to sufficiently address impacts of a project on agricultural, social, you know, and other you know economic interest of of the state. And that got lost and

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Kevin Ward: For whatever reason, the Water Board didn't appeal it you know it's it's all water under the bridge for the moment. Anyway, till the next lawsuit which probably will certainly come if we don't do something too address this soon.

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Kevin Ward: So the

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Kevin Ward: One thing I think we need to consider is

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Kevin Ward: You know, at what level and who should be looking at these these well recognized disputes, because if you've got a situation where there's really no desire of a region to develop a water resource and it's a state water resource surface water.

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Kevin Ward: Then someone at the higher levels at the state should be dealing with it. Now, when we had all those fights going on. We call them the water wars that created Senate Bills 1, 2, 3

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Kevin Ward: There was a joint

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Kevin Ward: Committee on water resources that involved that had both Senate and House members on it.

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Kevin Ward: That

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Kevin Ward: Worked together during the interim to try to resolve a lot of the various fights and

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Kevin Ward: There was also another committee, well it actually had some appointees that weren't necessarily from the, from the Senate or the House.

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Kevin Ward: I would suggest it regardless of what the higher level is that needs to be dealt with, you know, when it does involve not developing the water resources, the state, then it gets right at what chairman Larson was asking us, which is you have a

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Kevin Ward: We have a desire to maximize the development of the water resources of the state to the benefit of citizens over time.

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Kevin Ward: And sometimes it's not time for a project, you need to do it later. I think that's what regions D wants to do about the

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Kevin Ward: Marvin Nichols project. It was kicking out to 2050, 60, something like that.

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Kevin Ward: And who knows, maybe the state leadership believes that the right option, but they also still want to reserve the option because you know by then we won't have paper.

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Kevin Ward: And there won't be a mill and there won't be this and there won't be that and some of the ranches will be gone. And, you know, whatever the issues are.

892
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:30,180
Kevin Ward: But, but for it to be decided by regional planning groups that in some cases are self perpetuating

893
01:42:31,950 --> 01:42:38,220
Kevin Ward: I think it it's not at the right level for the for the state. These things are

894
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:51,030
Kevin Ward: Need a higher level. So I guess we should consider as a council, you know, asking for folks to take a review of that in the State leadership and in the legislature, you know what, why shouldn't there be

895
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:56,760
Kevin Ward: A look see at when it's appropriate for something that's a conflict to

896
01:42:57,390 --> 01:43:05,550
Kevin Ward: To not be resolved by the Water Development Board not be retried to be resolved between the two regions, you know, I think that if it's already

897
01:43:06,060 --> 01:43:14,580
Kevin Ward: Not been resolved. More than once, and resulted in a lawsuit. and it's still moving forward. And the end result is that

898
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:21,570
Kevin Ward: You're not going to develop you know 600,000 acre of water that goes into Arkansas every year during a drought.

899
01:43:22,440 --> 01:43:30,450
Kevin Ward: And I think someone at a higher level needs to decide that. If you've got a huge aquifer system that's in the middle of the state where transfers could be made to develop

900
01:43:31,110 --> 01:43:41,580
Kevin Ward: And the most efficient way to do it might not be the way we're doing it right now. It may be that longer term. It's something that should be there's a bigger project, like the chairman was asking about

901
01:43:42,060 --> 01:43:48,480
Kevin Ward: Or the Sabine water, you know, is it better for the Sabine water to go to Houston, or is it better for the Sabine water to go to

902
01:43:48,960 --> 01:44:02,220
Kevin Ward: Some other place and you know and and it's something with the state should do to try to go get some of Louisiana Sabine water. And do we really, you know, those, those types of activities and when they're developed

903
01:44:03,540 --> 01:44:15,000
Kevin Ward: Will dictate the efficiency of water development for the future from forever and whether it's best to go get the Oklahoma water, Sabine water, this, that, or whatever order it is if you planned it

904
01:44:16,110 --> 01:44:22,320
Kevin Ward: And one of my former Chairmans, who who passed away was one of the biggest Aggies and in the state.

905
01:44:23,790 --> 01:44:31,500
Kevin Ward: Said that, you know, why are we only playing it for 50 years Kevin, when he got his teeth kicked in a couple of times on this region C-D deal

906
01:44:31,890 --> 01:44:39,240
Kevin Ward: His answer was, you know, Kevin, why are we doing that. Why aren't we planning for 250 years. And maybe that's the answer to this question here is,

907
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:48,120
Kevin Ward: The longer term picture is where we ought to look at for these interregional projects and like Walthour said. Some of the others have said here.

908
01:44:48,570 --> 01:44:59,760
Kevin Ward: Kick them off early. Don't wait till it's in the planning process and a dispute arrives. Let's look at what those potentials are for disputes in the future. And let's see if we can't get them resolved, but let's put it in the right forum so

909
01:45:00,510 --> 01:45:07,470
Kevin Ward: I guess to summarize that it's to develop a process of identifying these conflicts and determining what

910
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:10,590
Kevin Ward: Venue they should be decided in

911
01:45:11,610 --> 01:45:14,580
Kevin Ward: And separating out any already known conflicts.

912
01:45:17,670 --> 01:45:20,910
Suzanne Schwartz: So, so I heard a couple different things. One was how to

913
01:45:21,210 --> 01:45:23,820
Suzanne Schwartz: How to determine the appropriate venue.

914
01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:25,380
For

915
01:45:27,630 --> 01:45:31,500
Suzanne Schwartz: Resolving interregional conflicts.

916
01:45:32,700 --> 01:45:33,690
Suzanne Schwartz: Is that correct, yeah.

917
01:45:35,370 --> 01:45:36,030
Well, but I'm

918
01:45:37,980 --> 01:45:41,040
Kevin Ward: And also identifying the type of, if it's a

919
01:45:41,580 --> 01:45:53,970
Kevin Ward: If it's the difference between two vying for the same resource with versus one not wanting to develop it at all. And somebody else wants to develop it and it's a state resource. Okay, you know, there's different grades of these things.
Suzanne Schwartz:
Yeah, let me

920
01:45:54,090 --> 01:46:07,230
Suzanne Schwartz: Let me take a different stab at that. How about your sort of maybe the overarching thing I heard you say that isn't encompassed in other ideas that have been generated is how to plan for the larger picture in water.

921
01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:09,870
Suzanne Schwartz: Yes development in the state.

922
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:25,620
Kevin Ward: The state. Yeah, where  the state's role is, where the state legislature role is or even the Water Development Boards role is. Maybe a new definition for their role, but the longer term strategy of water development that creates efficiencies. OK.

923
01:46:25,770 --> 01:46:31,020
Kevin Ward: So again, it goes back to when we, when we were asked one, a long time ago. We created a special fund to do all the financing.

924
01:46:31,500 --> 01:46:39,840
Kevin Ward: One of the concepts we had that big entity could build it, but we could do it for the benefit of all these little guys along the way, even though they didn't need a hookup right now.

925
01:46:40,350 --> 01:46:47,520
Kevin Ward: And we could build this huge pipeline and the state would come in for part of it. And we put stuff out all along it, even though they didn't need it right now.

926
01:46:48,150 --> 01:46:53,460
Kevin Ward: And that would be paid for and it would not cost the entity who was building it so that

927
01:46:53,940 --> 01:47:01,560
Kevin Ward: In the long run, you could do it you know and and you know that's that kind of concept gets into these larger projects like from the

928
01:47:01,890 --> 01:47:11,970
Kevin Ward: From the Sabine, for instance, okay you know I shouldn't serve everybody along the way. If we say can't because it can't. No one can afford to pay for somebody else's.
Suzanne Schwartz:
Okay, so if we list it as an

929
01:47:11,970 --> 01:47:14,370
Suzanne Schwartz: Issue of methods to plan

930
01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:22,650
Suzanne Schwartz: For larger the larger picture of water resource development. Would that reflect

931
01:47:22,740 --> 01:47:23,520
Suzanne Schwartz: What you're saying

932
01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:26,640
Kevin Ward:
Yeah.
Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki. Did you get that

933
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:29,970
Vicki Read: Yes, I got it.

934
01:47:30,300 --> 01:47:32,070
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay. Anyone else have

935
01:47:32,310 --> 01:47:35,550
Suzanne Schwartz: Issues you'd like to add to the list that's been developed so far.

936
01:47:42,900 --> 01:47:46,680
Suzanne Schwartz: Melanie, did you or are you just moving your hand toward the screen for a different reason.

937
01:47:48,690 --> 01:47:52,530
Suzanne Schwartz: Oh, meeting. Okay. Okay. Um, what

938
01:47:52,590 --> 01:47:55,020
Suzanne Schwartz: I would like to suggest, because I think

939
01:47:56,070 --> 01:47:58,380
Kevin Ward: I got one more. Oh, Kevin, of course.

940
01:47:58,410 --> 01:47:58,920
Suzanne Schwartz: Go ahead.

941
01:47:59,310 --> 01:48:02,850
Kevin Ward: Okay, identifying unused state water.

942
01:48:06,990 --> 01:48:07,500
Kevin Ward: Across the state, unused.

943
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:12,150
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, yeah, Vicki got that,  identify unused

944
01:48:13,140 --> 01:48:14,670
Suzanne Schwartz: Water across the state.

945
01:48:14,820 --> 01:48:15,210
Vicki Read: Got it.

946
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,080
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, anything else. Any other

947
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:29,520
Suzanne Schwartz: Issues. Do y'all want to see added to the list. What I'm, what I'm going to propose we do next is, Vicki's actually been developing a poll before we actually

948
01:48:30,750 --> 01:48:40,650
Suzanne Schwartz: Cast your votes about what you think the most important issues for this Council to consider is, I'd like to go ahead and take a look at, have everybody take a look at the list and

949
01:48:41,220 --> 01:48:57,720
Suzanne Schwartz: Let you, you know, ask questions to make sure you understand what the issue is that's on the list. You know, sort of clarification process and then we would vote. So, and then after you've looked at it, you could, we could add any additional items that you think might not be there if that's

950
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:06,570
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, then I'm going to Vicki, or is it ready to put up. Can it be put up without opening it for voting yet.

951
01:49:09,090 --> 01:49:12,090
Vicki Read: Not that I know of. I think it will be open for voting.

952
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:14,190
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, when when it's up. Can we talk

953
01:49:15,210 --> 01:49:15,540
Vicki Read: Yes.

954
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:16,320
Kelley Holcomb: Suzanne Schwartz: Okay.

955
01:49:16,410 --> 01:49:18,180
Suzanne Schwartz: Why don't we put it up, but nobody

956
01:49:18,300 --> 01:49:19,440
Suzanne Schwartz: register your

957
01:49:19,470 --> 01:49:21,960
Suzanne Schwartz: Preferences yet, and we'll talk through

958
01:49:22,230 --> 01:49:27,780
Suzanne Schwartz: That way, will you can ask questions if there's anything you're not sure you understand

959
01:49:28,590 --> 01:49:40,680
Suzanne Schwartz: We can clarify this is again for clarification purposes. And then what I'd like us to do is for each of you to register your top top four

960
01:49:41,190 --> 01:49:52,980
Suzanne Schwartz: Issues that you would like to see this Council consider and it can be considered this cycle we we will reserve this whole list for

961
01:49:53,760 --> 01:50:04,830
Suzanne Schwartz: Because we understand there will be additional cycles of this council. So I'm going to suggest we look at it right now as the top four you would like to have the Council consider this cycle.

962
01:50:05,370 --> 01:50:09,630
Suzanne Schwartz: And then knowing that the whole list is going to be preserved for

963
01:50:10,350 --> 01:50:12,840
Suzanne Schwartz: You or others to consider for the next

964
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:14,910
Suzanne Schwartz: Time. So Vicki. If you can

965
01:50:16,260 --> 01:50:17,790
Suzanne Schwartz: Get the list up and then

966
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:21,180
Suzanne Schwartz: And then

967
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:25,470
Suzanne Schwartz: I think it's going to, is it going to be one or two. Is it going to be one or two lists Vicki.

968
01:50:26,730 --> 01:50:27,000
Suzanne Schwartz: Is it

969
01:50:27,660 --> 01:50:31,320
Vicki Read: should just be one and it should be on your screen. Do you not see it.

970
01:50:31,440 --> 01:50:32,550
Suzanne Schwartz: Yeah, I see it.

971
01:50:32,670 --> 01:50:33,540
Suzanne Schwartz: It's there.

972
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:37,200
Suzanne Schwartz: Anyway, if y'all will take a look at these just

973
01:50:37,290 --> 01:50:40,290
Suzanne Schwartz: I'll give you a couple minutes just to scroll through

974
01:50:40,290 --> 01:50:52,080
Suzanne Schwartz: those. Do not register any kind of preferences yet. And then I'll try to, if you have questions or like clarification will do that before we go into the

975
01:50:52,650 --> 01:50:53,640
Suzanne Schwartz: The polling.

976
01:50:57,330 --> 01:51:03,960
Carl Crull: I have a question looks, like, one and four are pretty, one says regional the other says interregional

977
01:51:05,310 --> 01:51:07,230
Carl Crull: What's the difference between those

978
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:11,370
Suzanne Schwartz:
My understanding, and I

979
01:51:11,370 --> 01:51:18,090
Suzanne Schwartz: Actually asked that question is that the the first one, which is the regional means within the region.

980
01:51:18,180 --> 01:51:21,690
Suzanne Schwartz: is, who, I think that was put up by Steve, is that correct

981
01:51:28,110 --> 01:51:33,540
Steve Walthour: Yes, I did. And I think you should drop it. I think we really only dealing with interregional conflicts.

982
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:40,650
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, well we can if we'll go ahead and take that one off them.

983
01:51:43,020 --> 01:51:45,330
Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki. Will you be able to

984
01:51:47,340 --> 01:51:51,150
Suzanne Schwartz: Be able to edit this before we actually vote on it.

985
01:51:52,350 --> 01:51:52,980
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, great.

986
01:51:58,020 --> 01:51:59,850
Vicki Read: I should, it'll take me just a second.

987
01:51:59,970 --> 01:52:12,930
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, well, we'll wait what let's well we'll have the discussion. First, but for right now, we're going to eliminate the first item and keep it up for now and then, before we actually take a poll will

988
01:52:14,490 --> 01:52:22,530
Suzanne Schwartz: Let me ask a question of you all can you, do you all have a button at the bottom of yours that says, Submit that's in blue.

989
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:25,830
Mark Evans: Yeah.
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, good. We just wanted to

990
01:52:25,830 --> 01:52:28,500
Suzanne Schwartz: Make sure it was that the poll was going to work so

991
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:35,940
Suzanne Schwartz: Perfect, thanks. Any other questions or comments about the list before we go

992
01:52:36,540 --> 01:52:38,670
Mark Evans: Suzanne, this is Mark, can you hear me okay
Suzanne Schwartz:
yes

993
01:52:40,860 --> 01:52:53,130
Mark Evans: Are we developing these consideration or topics to consider. Are these the topics that we would include in the report that will ultimately preparing to submit.

994
01:52:54,450 --> 01:52:57,990
Suzanne Schwartz: That's what I'm hoping that will do is, this would be

995
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:11,370
Suzanne Schwartz: The, the items that you as the Council will consider and report on during this planning the cycle between now and the end of October. I'm recognizing some of them may, you know, go over into the to the next.

996
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:12,060
Suzanne Schwartz: Council that

997
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:13,050
Suzanne Schwartz:
Is formed

998
01:53:13,260 --> 01:53:17,130
Suzanne Schwartz: Is that, is that what is that, uh, I guess.

999
01:53:17,250 --> 01:53:27,540
Suzanne Schwartz: That's what my I'm thinking. Matt and and Temple y'all we're also involved in developing this agenda item. Is that your understanding. And does anyone else have a different opinion.

1000
01:53:32,610 --> 01:53:40,680
Temple McKinnon: My understanding, when we were putting this together is just to help us shape issue to support you guys moving forward in your next meeting. So

1001
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:42,270
Temple McKinnon: The question. It's

1002
01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:47,010
Temple McKinnon: The end result of this is what y'all will be working on to put in a report and

1003
01:53:48,540 --> 01:53:53,700
Temple McKinnon: My answer to that would be yes. That's what's going to help us further facilitate you all to generating a report.

1004
01:53:56,010 --> 01:53:57,570
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, does anybody

1005
01:53:57,660 --> 01:54:06,870
Suzanne Schwartz: Does anyone is that, does anyone have a different sense of what we have that. I mean, are you comfortable with that is the reason we're listing these

1006
01:54:06,900 --> 01:54:07,500
Issues.

1007
01:54:11,070 --> 01:54:14,640
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, I'm not hearing anyone to I'm going to assume that's okay.

1008
01:54:16,380 --> 01:54:19,140
Suzanne Schwartz: Any other questions. Yeah, Patrick.

1009
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:21,000
Patrick Brzozowski: So my only question would be,

1010
01:54:21,480 --> 01:54:22,740
Patrick Brzozowski: So we're limited to four.

1011
01:54:23,340 --> 01:54:26,130
Suzanne Schwartz: Yeah, well, we're trying to do is simply see from

1012
01:54:26,220 --> 01:54:28,740
Suzanne Schwartz: From your from the group as a whole.

1013
01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:31,830
Suzanne Schwartz: Where the highest emphasis is it doesn't mean

1014
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:36,570
Suzanne Schwartz: You won't consider other issues as we move along. But we're trying to figure out

1015
01:54:36,870 --> 01:54:50,490
Suzanne Schwartz: What is the most important to you as a, as a group, and you know, I imagine it will split, you know, we'll, we'll end up with more than four issues total because that's just how it works. When people start you know listing the issues. Does that make this

1016
01:54:51,030 --> 01:54:53,370
Patrick Brzozowski: Much sense. I just want to make sure we don't lose list.

1017
01:54:53,670 --> 01:54:54,630
Suzanne Schwartz: Yes. And now we won't

1018
01:54:55,710 --> 01:54:56,730
Suzanne Schwartz: We won't we won't have to

1019
01:54:57,870 --> 01:54:58,620
Kevin Ward: Suzanne.

1020
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:09,030
Kevin Ward: The only thing that I see is, maybe it's just a point wasn't gotten across real well. But that last item on identifying unused water, that's a little bit too amorphous

1021
01:55:10,230 --> 01:55:23,340
Kevin Ward: What I'm talking about is identifying any large amounts of undeveloped water supply. Okay. Identify any large amounts of undeveloped water supply across the state.
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay.

1022
01:55:23,490 --> 01:55:26,370
Suzanne Schwartz: Well, we will identify large amounts of

1023
01:55:27,030 --> 01:55:28,140
Suzanne Schwartz: undeveloped

1024
01:55:28,230 --> 01:55:29,910
Suzanne Schwartz: Water supply is that right

1025
01:55:30,030 --> 01:55:41,850
Kevin Ward: Yeah, I mean, yeah, the right because you remember when we looked at the groundwater and Henderson County, for instance, there's enough water there to last the state 200 years in drought, you know, it's just, it's never been developed. Suzanne Schwartz: Okay. Okay.

1026
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:49,620
Suzanne Schwartz: So we'll make that change on that on the wording on that I think Mark and Jim both want to talk will let mark.

1027
01:55:49,620 --> 01:55:50,400
First

1028
01:55:53,700 --> 01:55:57,900
Suzanne Schwartz: Mark, do you have anything you wanted to say.
Mark Evans: Well, I already did for my

1029
01:55:59,880 --> 01:56:04,050
Mark Evans: I made some previous comments, but I haven't since asked to speak again.
Suzanne Schwartz:
I it's just

1030
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,650
Suzanne Schwartz: Maybe a little feature on zoom. Jim, did you have anything you wanted to add

1031
01:56:10,050 --> 01:56:14,700
Jim Thompson: Kevin is changing the talking point to identifying undeveloped water across the state

1032
01:56:17,220 --> 01:56:19,770
Jim Thompson: We need to identify unused water across the state

1033
01:56:21,330 --> 01:56:21,660
Suzanne Schwartz: What

1034
01:56:22,050 --> 01:56:34,230
Suzanne Schwartz: Could we combine those together, identify undeveloped and unused water across the state. Would that be acceptable, Kevin. You're the one who generated it would that be acceptable.

1035
01:56:35,130 --> 01:56:36,600
Kevin Ward: I'll take the friendly amendment.

1036
01:56:39,330 --> 01:56:40,740
Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki. Did you get that

1037
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:47,790
Vicki Read: Yeah, I think so. I'm going to have to type everything once I take the poll down

1038
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:50,550
Suzanne Schwartz: OK. OK, and we'll take a quick review

1039
01:56:50,850 --> 01:56:52,500
Suzanne Schwartz: After that, before we stop.

1040
01:56:52,530 --> 01:57:02,760
Suzanne Schwartz: Start polling. We'll make sure we'll let everybody look at it and make sure that it's reflected correctly. Any, anything else. Any questions about what any of these mean or any

1041
01:57:03,060 --> 01:57:05,490
Suzanne Schwartz: Anything else you'd like to add to the list.

1042
01:57:06,900 --> 01:57:07,350
Suzanne Schwartz: Jim

1043
01:57:08,190 --> 01:57:10,350
Suzanne Schwartz: Did you are you is your hand up or

1044
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:13,620
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, okay.

1045
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:14,670
Um,

1046
01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:17,580
Suzanne Schwartz: Anybody anything else.

1047
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:32,010
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, then let's let Vicki. Go ahead and make the changes take out the first one,make the wording change to that last one, and then we'll put it up one more time to let you review it and then we will proceed with the poll

1048
01:57:39,300 --> 01:57:57,750
Suzanne Scott: Suzanne. This is Suzanne, Scott. I just have a quick question. So these I think we captured some of the list of what Commissioner Larson representative Larson was asking us to look at, but they're not all on there. So does this mean that we would prioritize

1049
01:57:59,220 --> 01:58:02,220
Suzanne Scott: This list that we're going to vote on now.

1050
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:08,850
Suzanne Scott: Above the things that were specifically identified and

1051
01:58:09,450 --> 01:58:10,020
Suzanne Schwartz:
I would

1052
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:19,950
Suzanne Schwartz: You know, I think we could add if you feel it seems that the Representative has indicated in his letter are not on the list. Would you like to have those added to the list.

1053
01:58:20,670 --> 01:58:28,140
Suzanne Scott: Well, for example, he said, identify potential new multi regional projects for consideration that serve the state as a whole.

1054
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:33,690
Suzanne Scott: Mm hmm. I didn't see that multi regional,now it could be buried in one of those items.

1055
01:58:35,940 --> 01:58:36,630
Suzanne Scott: And then

1056
01:58:39,780 --> 01:58:40,560
Suzanne Scott:
I think

1057
01:58:40,620 --> 01:58:46,620
Suzanne Scott: The rest of them are probably covered in somewhere. I mean, identify interregional conflicts.

1058
01:58:47,010 --> 01:58:59,310
Suzanne Scott: Review the viability and justification of projects included in the state water plan, make recommendations on how to encourage the inclusion of alternative, including innovative strategies such as aquifer storage and recovery of desal.

1059
01:58:59,790 --> 01:59:04,320
Suzanne Scott: That's kind of more about the justification. I think that one was covered because someone said,

1060
01:59:04,770 --> 01:59:17,280
Suzanne Scott: About how to choose. I don't have the poll up anymore. But I think that one was covered with something that was said, I think it was more about this multi regional projects. And I think it was said by

1061
01:59:18,900 --> 01:59:29,910
Suzanne Scott: By the gentleman from Austin, but I think it was then modified. They didn't really reflect the idea of this multi regional project and maybe I missed it, but just making sure that they're covered.

1062
01:59:30,210 --> 01:59:31,980
Suzanne Schwartz: We could add that as an item.

1063
01:59:35,190 --> 01:59:36,810
Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki. Are you hearing this

1064
01:59:38,490 --> 01:59:41,820
Vicki Read: I am, I'm having some technical problems.

1065
01:59:42,540 --> 01:59:43,380
Suzanne Schwartz: Will let you

1066
01:59:43,470 --> 01:59:44,670
Suzanne Schwartz: All okay

1067
01:59:45,150 --> 01:59:46,110
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay. Oh.

1068
01:59:51,810 --> 01:59:55,770
Suzanne Schwartz: If is it gonna let you edit it at this point.

1069
01:59:56,610 --> 02:00:01,800
Vicki Read: Um, because I had to end it. I'm gonna have to type everything back in

1070
02:00:02,340 --> 02:00:04,560
Suzanne Schwartz:
Okay.
Vicki Read:
It's gonna take me a minute.

1071
02:00:05,820 --> 02:00:09,120
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay. Why don't if y'all want um

1072
02:00:11,610 --> 02:00:12,000
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay.

1073
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:21,600
Suzanne Schwartz: Let's give Vicki a couple of a couple minutes to do that. If everybody wants to just take a quick break. We can do that just maybe be back in

1074
02:00:22,110 --> 02:00:24,330
Vicki Read:
Our only other option is I

1075
02:00:24,330 --> 02:00:28,200
Vicki Read: Can relaunch it as it is. And we just say no one does.

1076
02:00:28,650 --> 02:00:29,310
Vicki Read: Number one.

1077
02:00:30,030 --> 02:00:30,510
Suzanne Schwartz: Right, but

1078
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:32,790
Suzanne Schwartz: But Suzanne was adding another item.

1079
02:00:35,310 --> 02:00:46,710
Suzanne Schwartz: So let's go ahead and let you retype it all in, and we will get them and and we'll add the one, one more items or anything else that people either that you all looking at

1080
02:00:47,340 --> 02:00:58,140
Suzanne Schwartz: Representative Larson's list would want to add to the list or anything else you think of right now, before we get because we might as well. Generate it and get it ready to go.

1081
02:01:00,990 --> 02:01:01,440
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, I'm

1082
02:01:05,340 --> 02:01:07,920
Kelley Holcomb: Hey Suzanne, this is Kelley. Y'all are probably not gonna like what I'm about to say, but if Chairman Larson

1083
02:01:09,390 --> 02:01:18,810
Kelley Holcomb: took the time to generate the letter and come up with five bullet points and those five bullet points generally cover everything we've talked about doing, shouldn't we

1084
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:29,730
Kelley Holcomb: Shouldn't we take our list and incorporate into his as sub bullets and that is the context of the report that we need to generate for the Water Development Board.

1085
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:34,620
Suzanne Schwartz: Does anybody

1086
02:01:36,270 --> 02:01:43,530
Suzanne Schwartz: have thoughts about that. I mean, I'm this is certainly not for me to answer it may be that what we could do is

1087
02:01:44,430 --> 02:01:44,940
Suzanne Schwartz: One way.

1088
02:01:46,380 --> 02:01:53,130
Suzanne Scott: I just think we need to probably make sure and I'm kind of Kelley and I are on the same page here out of respect for him.

1089
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:59,490
Suzanne Scott: Respect for the Representative. I just, that's why I was going through the five and I think

1090
02:01:59,730 --> 02:02:02,130
Suzanne Scott: They're all covered with different words.

1091
02:02:02,250 --> 02:02:09,900
Suzanne Scott: And we could use his exact words or just for the sake of the words that have been put out there. I think we think they're all

1092
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:25,140
Suzanne Scott: Covered we can double back when Vicki puts the list back up just to do a quick check to make sure, but the only one I didn't see was this sort of new multi regional projects. But I mean, like the ways that the Water Development Board might

1093
02:02:25,140 --> 02:02:26,880
Suzanne Scott: Assistant in interregional coordination and

1094
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:34,830
Suzanne Scott: Planning at a state level. I mean, I think we sort of covered that by one of them was how the rulemaking process can

1095
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:41,580
Suzanne Scott: Be more flexible and also the whole idea of the

1096
02:02:42,720 --> 02:02:45,180
Suzanne Scott: The committee, the stakeholder committee thing.

1097
02:02:46,620 --> 02:02:49,620
Suzanne Scott: Those were more specific, but would fall into that category.

1098
02:02:50,820 --> 02:03:05,880
Suzanne Scott: Outline a plan to facilitate better interregional coordination. I mean, I think that was said on a couple of bullets, the viability and justification of projects included in the plan. I think there was one that said more specific specific about what projects are in the plan.

1099
02:03:06,930 --> 02:03:09,870
Suzanne Scott: I mean, so I think we're covered. It's just in different words.

1100
02:03:09,930 --> 02:03:14,520
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, what what we might be able to. And what what we were going to do with this list. Anyway, was

1101
02:03:14,910 --> 02:03:23,220
Suzanne Schwartz: Use it after this meeting to start thinking through what our future agendas look like. So Kelley, we could organize it within the structure of

1102
02:03:23,790 --> 02:03:32,910
Suzanne Schwartz: What Representative Larson has said, you know, and make sure if there are some bullets as you suggested, it might be a way to organize that for you for the future. So

1103
02:03:33,990 --> 02:03:48,570
Suzanne Schwartz: Let me if it unless someone objects. Let's go ahead and with a poll that we had had this Vicki's is editing plus adding the bullet that Suzanne thought might not be included already on the list and then you can then you can prioritize

1104
02:03:49,710 --> 02:03:51,210
Suzanne Schwartz: Among the issues.

1105
02:03:51,780 --> 02:03:58,200
Suzanne Schwartz: From that list and then we'll further process that understanding that there's a desire to make sure we

1106
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:03,540
Suzanne Schwartz: We have looked and have it fully incorporated what the representative has

1107
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:04,320
Mentioned

1108
02:04:10,380 --> 02:04:16,230
Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki, let me know when you want  that last bullet that you need to add the last polling.

1109
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:17,730
Suzanne Schwartz: Item

1110
02:04:18,150 --> 02:04:20,460
Vicki Read: Okay, it'll be a minute or two still

1111
02:04:20,730 --> 02:04:21,720
Suzanne Schwartz: Sure. Sure.

1112
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:31,350
Suzanne Schwartz: If anybody needs to get a drink of water or anything. Just go. It probably a good time. It'll be sounds like a couple minutes, but probably not very long.

1113
02:04:40,380 --> 02:04:41,700
Patrick Brzozowski: Can we take an official

1114
02:04:42,870 --> 02:04:45,390
Suzanne Schwartz: Yes, let's take an official five minute break.

1115
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:46,230
Patrick Brzozowski: There you go

1116
02:04:47,430 --> 02:04:49,320
Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you, excellent suggestion.

1117
02:07:28,260 --> 02:07:28,860
Kevin Ward: You know, so

1118
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:43,410
Kevin Ward: I'm looking at the statute, you know, one of the things here is we're supposed to facilitate dialogue regarding water management strategies that could affect multiple regional water planning areas. That almost sounds like we're supposed to look at some specific strategies.

1119
02:07:44,550 --> 02:07:46,230
Kevin Ward: And I think that same thing was in the letter.

1120
02:07:47,340 --> 02:07:48,120
Kevin Ward: There's a point

1121
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:11,220
Kelley Holcomb:
Kevin, I agree. I mean, I'm

1122
02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:13,920
Kelley Holcomb: I'm looking at chairman Larson's letter. I mean, is

1123
02:08:13,980 --> 02:08:21,360
Kelley Holcomb: It almost looks like everything we're doing is going to roll up into some legislation or we proposed legislation next session and

1124
02:08:23,550 --> 02:08:25,020
Kelley Holcomb: Yeah, and then the

1125
02:08:25,410 --> 02:08:33,060
Kevin Ward: But, and even the charges that are there that were from is the bill are pretty clear. We got to

1126
02:08:33,780 --> 02:08:35,130
Kevin Ward: make recommendations we get you

1127
02:08:35,130 --> 02:08:48,660
Kevin Ward: Know, improve coordination, where there we're actually here to improve the coordination among regional planning groups. So it's going to take recommendations to change some things in law or and rule. It seemed like that's our

1128
02:08:50,190 --> 02:08:59,070
Kevin Ward: That's our charge as well as try to facilitate a dialogue regarding these water management strategies that affect multiple regional water planning areas.

1129
02:08:59,940 --> 02:09:01,830
Kelley Holcomb: So I agree.

1130
02:09:03,690 --> 02:09:06,930
Suzanne Schwartz: Before I have a quick question for Suzanne before

1131
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:17,370
Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki, is that last question, if we're put adding on the last bullet from Representative Larson's list. Is that correct, which one to make sure I get the right one.

1132
02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:20,310
Suzanne Scott: The one I'm asking the one I was mentioning

1133
02:09:20,490 --> 02:09:25,860
Suzanne Scott: Yes, it's it's identify potential new multi regional projects for consideration.

1134
02:09:26,070 --> 02:09:26,820
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, thank you.

1135
02:09:28,050 --> 02:09:34,710
Suzanne Schwartz: Excellent. I got there I that break just threw me for a loop. Okay, let me let me get that added to her to her.

1136
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:46,200
Kelley Holcomb: Kevin on item C2 in the bill. How do you interpret facilitate dialogue regarding water management strategies, do you think take that as

1137
02:09:46,710 --> 02:09:48,510
Kelley Holcomb:
We're supposed to actually call

1138
02:09:49,020 --> 02:09:53,910
Kelley Holcomb: The different players together and kind of hold their hand to

1139
02:09:55,110 --> 02:09:59,340
Kelley Holcomb: To agree to agree on projects or. 
Kevin Ward: Well, that's what it is.

1140
02:09:59,490 --> 02:10:05,910
Kevin Ward: I mean, that's what it looks like to me is that it was, you know, we're charged with doing that and

1141
02:10:06,690 --> 02:10:08,940
Kevin Ward: You know, if we, I mean, we look at your

1142
02:10:08,970 --> 02:10:15,540
Kevin Ward: The Council consists of one member of each regional planning group and each regional water planning group shall nominate one or more members to be on it.

1143
02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:22,140
Kevin Ward: And then the board shall  consider the nominations and make an appointment to the Council. The purposes of the Council are to

1144
02:10:22,500 --> 02:10:28,530
Kevin Ward: improve coordination among regional water planning groups and between each regional water planning group and the board.

1145
02:10:29,010 --> 02:10:34,440
Kevin Ward: in meeting the goals of the State Water planning process and the water needs of the state as a whole. And then

1146
02:10:35,340 --> 02:10:43,830
Kevin Ward: Another purpose is to facilitate dialogue regarding water management strategies that could affect multiple regional water planning areas.

1147
02:10:44,460 --> 02:10:54,000
Kevin Ward: And it's almost like you know we can bring forward everything that's happened on any of these interregional projects that we're working on right now and discuss it at the Council level.

1148
02:10:56,130 --> 02:11:04,230
Kelley Holcomb: I guess one of the questions that maybe should be asked is statewide how many interregional projects are there.

1149
02:11:06,690 --> 02:11:07,620
Kevin Ward:
You know, you know, don't know

1150
02:11:08,730 --> 02:11:13,920
Kevin Ward: I do know when they got quite a few of them. We have quite a few of them between Region D and C.

1151
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:24,120
Kevin Ward: That's just the way I mean it it happens. I don't know if El Paso has one with its neighboring region.
Matt Nelson:
There are quite a few

1152
02:11:24,210 --> 02:11:27,480
Matt Nelson: Quite a few projects that

1153
02:11:28,140 --> 02:11:32,670
Matt Nelson: There are water users in other regions, there are quite a few that just depends on you know

1154
02:11:32,820 --> 02:11:35,790
Matt Nelson: How big and that sort of thing. So there's quite a few of

1155
02:11:36,540 --> 02:11:36,840
Of

1156
02:11:38,550 --> 02:11:42,480
Matt Nelson: Projects that serve other regions from the source, for example, so there's

1157
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:44,370
Matt Nelson: A variety. Because of the size

1158
02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:47,370
Temple McKinnon: And as you go down the road you know as materials.

1159
02:11:47,370 --> 02:11:50,700
Temple McKinnon: You might need for your next meeting to further discuss these issues, we can

1160
02:11:50,700 --> 02:11:51,420
Certainly pull together

1161
02:11:52,740 --> 02:11:53,520
Kevin Ward: Think we're gonna need

1162
02:11:53,760 --> 02:12:01,680
Kevin Ward: We're gonna need it because like you. If you look at the Lydia Ann pipeline that took the water from the old irrigation.

1163
02:12:03,540 --> 02:12:12,990
Kevin Ward: Water rights over there. Gosh over what in Brazoria county brought them all the way down to Corpus Christi. That was a huge interregional project and

1164
02:12:14,010 --> 02:12:23,550
Kevin Ward: That required, it got done, but that was probably because the water rights were from Garfield irrigation district and LCRA was willing to go forward with it, but

1165
02:12:24,030 --> 02:12:24,240
I'm

1166
02:12:26,190 --> 02:12:30,300
Suzanne Schwartz: Sorry to interrupt. We're ready to go ahead and get the poll up and so

1167
02:12:31,380 --> 02:12:31,620
We

1168
02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:37,500
Suzanne Schwartz: We'll do that right now and kind of get a sense of where, how you all prioritize the issues that are

1169
02:12:37,500 --> 02:12:40,920
Suzanne Schwartz: So choose four for me.

1170
02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:45,840
Suzanne Schwartz: And we'll see where we are after that.

1171
02:12:55,980 --> 02:12:58,470
Suzanne Schwartz: Only the people only the council members are

1172
02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:05,550
Suzanne Schwartz: Registering on this poll. So those of you in the audience should not be participating in the polling.

1173
02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:56,340
Kelley Holcomb: Suzanne. So if we pick we pick a fifth one, are we going to get penalized for it

1174
02:13:58,440 --> 02:14:00,870
Suzanne Schwartz: I probably won't know. But I hope you won't

1175
02:14:03,090 --> 02:14:04,530
David Wheelock: You can borrow one from me Kelley.

1176
02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:06,390
Mark Evans: I tried picking the

1177
02:14:06,630 --> 02:14:07,230
David Wheelock: Data wouldn't let

1178
02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:13,680
Kelley Holcomb: And I was trying to be unique.

1179
02:14:35,700 --> 02:14:41,130
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, I think we have a few. Probably not quite finished but I'm give you guys a few more minutes.

1180
02:14:47,640 --> 02:14:55,590
Kelley Holcomb: While we're waiting, who's been on the most webinar zoom conference calls in the last since all this mess started.

1181
02:14:57,720 --> 02:14:59,850
Suzanne Schwartz: I'm surprised not everyone has raised their hand yet.

1182
02:15:03,150 --> 02:15:04,800
Kelley Holcomb: I've only been on about a half dozen

1183
02:15:11,670 --> 02:15:17,880
Kelley Holcomb: But I will say I was on two one time, one on my laptop my desktop. I don't know if that qualifies.

1184
02:15:22,860 --> 02:15:26,520
Suzanne Schwartz: I just want to know how successful you were at juggling those

1185
02:15:28,050 --> 02:15:29,040
Kelley Holcomb: Probably not very

1186
02:15:39,120 --> 02:15:44,940
Suzanne Schwartz: I think we're waiting for two more people to finish their voting their, their ranking so

1187
02:16:08,610 --> 02:16:12,870
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, so it's I think it's some one, I think we've got one. Oh, I think.

1188
02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:14,910
Suzanne Schwartz:
Is there anyone who has not

1189
02:16:14,910 --> 02:16:16,320
Suzanne Schwartz: finished yet.

1190
02:16:16,470 --> 02:16:19,050
Suzanne Schwartz: Before we close this out. Is there anyone who has not

1191
02:16:19,050 --> 02:16:19,620
Finished.

1192
02:16:26,190 --> 02:16:30,060
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, I think we're ready to go ahead and and and close it out, Vicki.

1193
02:16:35,460 --> 02:16:36,210
Suzanne Schwartz: Can you can

1194
02:16:36,270 --> 02:16:42,300
Suzanne Schwartz: Everybody see the results or if the results are up, let me just say that

1195
02:16:45,840 --> 02:16:47,730
Suzanne Schwartz: So it looks like

1196
02:16:51,750 --> 02:16:52,620
Suzanne Schwartz: Ones with the

1197
02:16:53,910 --> 02:16:59,190
Suzanne Schwartz: That got the three highest look to be the one that says develop a formal process.

1198
02:16:59,790 --> 02:17:03,390
Suzanne Schwartz: By which they will Planning Council will deal with interregional conflict.

1199
02:17:04,680 --> 02:17:12,720
Suzanne Schwartz: Another is to develop a formal and informal process to look at projects that cross regions and then the

1200
02:17:15,300 --> 02:17:23,310
Suzanne Schwartz: The other one is the identify potential new multi regional projects for the consideration for consideration that serve the state as a whole.

1201
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:29,790
Suzanne Schwartz: And then after that, there's just

1202
02:17:32,160 --> 02:17:46,440
Suzanne Schwartz: The I'm just sort of trying to pull through that looks like the formal process for regions to coordinate on projects for shared response resources from other regionals regions read parentheses regional liaisons

1203
02:17:47,490 --> 02:17:50,910
Suzanne Schwartz: Those were the top four, but there are a couple others that you know

1204
02:17:51,030 --> 02:17:52,140
Suzanne Schwartz: I'm here five

1205
02:17:55,290 --> 02:17:56,700
Suzanne Schwartz: Yeah, so

1206
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:18,600
Suzanne Schwartz: Given what was on what how y'all kind of ranked these things at this point, I guess, a basic question I'd ask you is, is there anything that didn't rank highly on this list from from, that y'all have polled on that that someone is passionate about that you'd like to

1207
02:18:19,980 --> 02:18:23,910
Suzanne Schwartz: Say is should should rise to the top for this group to look at

1208
02:18:33,030 --> 02:18:33,900
Suzanne Schwartz: I'm trying

1209
02:18:35,550 --> 02:18:48,360
Kevin Ward: I don't know Suzanne. I still think that if we don't identify where the water resources are that can be developed, it's kind of hard to identify something that could have a big effect on the state when it's at 44% so it's close.

1210
02:18:49,890 --> 02:18:52,800
Kevin Ward: And I also think that some of these are somewhat redundant.

1211
02:18:54,180 --> 02:18:55,590
Kevin Ward: The first two, for instance.

1212
02:18:55,800 --> 02:18:58,770
Suzanne Schwartz: Yeah. Well, and what I would suggest that we do. I think that

1213
02:18:59,400 --> 02:19:09,840
Suzanne Schwartz: We could, if anyone wants to give us any general impressions about about the list or the polls. I think it would be a good time. The intent is to take this

1214
02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:27,300
Suzanne Schwartz: And start using this to plan for your future meetings. And what you're going to produce in the future. So this is just a gauge, so to speak, and it we can you can refine it further, as we move through the process. Does anybody, given that, does anybody have anything you'd like to

1215
02:19:29,070 --> 02:19:32,250
Suzanne Schwartz: Add to this part of the discussion before we move on.

1216
02:19:34,650 --> 02:19:37,410
Melanie Barnes: Are you going to send this to us. This is Melanie

1217
02:19:37,590 --> 02:19:39,420
Suzanne Schwartz: Yeah, we, we will do that.

1218
02:19:44,820 --> 02:19:57,390
Suzanne Schwartz: Any just general sense that concerns you have as a group about kind of the charges before you you know what you're trying to accomplish. Before we move on, just to the next agenda item.

1219
02:20:00,600 --> 02:20:06,510
Kevin Ward: Well, I guess the problem I see is that our planning process goes up 50 years

1220
02:20:07,560 --> 02:20:14,280
Kevin Ward: And most of us have developed through the bottom up process, the plans that are going to serve the needs of our

1221
02:20:15,720 --> 02:20:22,260
Kevin Ward: Population and industry etc through those and even environments that matter through that time period.

1222
02:20:24,510 --> 02:20:25,950
Kevin Ward: And so

1223
02:20:26,250 --> 02:20:27,570
It's hard for us to

1224
02:20:28,770 --> 02:20:35,610
Kevin Ward: Without some real help here looking past that 50 years with data or information.

1225
02:20:37,050 --> 02:20:41,310
Kevin Ward: conjure up strategies that already haven't that haven't already been envisioned.

1226
02:20:42,420 --> 02:20:43,470
Kevin Ward: And though.

1227
02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:53,970
Kevin Ward: It is unfortunately that's exactly what the statute asks us to do though they want us to look at that and see if we can come up with that as well as the letter from chairman Larson, so

1228
02:20:54,450 --> 02:21:06,630
Kevin Ward: I think that we've got to have some brainstorming some ideas of how do we get to that point of being able to identify things that just didn't crop up during the planning process.

1229
02:21:09,120 --> 02:21:10,920
Kelley Holcomb: Okay, that's a tough question, Kevin.

1230
02:21:12,330 --> 02:21:15,840
Kelley Holcomb: It's all it, but because the issue is how do you know what you don't know.

1231
02:21:17,550 --> 02:21:21,630
Kevin Ward: Exactly. And I'm pretty well versed with Region I, but the rest of the other

1232
02:21:21,630 --> 02:21:24,450
Kevin Ward:
15 regions, I'm counting on y'all to do y'alls part.

1233
02:21:25,710 --> 02:21:26,910
Kelley Holcomb: I mean, the low hanging fruit is

1234
02:21:26,910 --> 02:21:46,650
Kevin Ward: Stuff like you know the lake that you're working on, and some of these other things that are been conflicts in the past. I think the hard to identify issues are ones that were never looked at as an alternate strategy or or at all. But yet, maybe someone is knowledgeable of

1235
02:21:47,970 --> 02:21:54,810
Kevin Ward: And you know, you can, we can go out there, fairly easily and talk about desal and and developing these

1236
02:21:56,310 --> 02:21:57,480
Kevin Ward: Saline aquifers.

1237
02:21:58,860 --> 02:22:01,440
Kevin Ward: But there, there's not a lot of

1238
02:22:04,470 --> 02:22:06,990
Kevin Ward: information that's available to us right this minute

1239
02:22:07,500 --> 02:22:22,590
Kevin Ward: We would literally have to have some stuff. Maybe if the Water Board went back through some of the old water plans or some of the old texts and came back forward with some of the larger ideas that came along the way, like the old trans Texas corridor and things like that.

1240
02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:36,210
Kevin Ward: And we also looked at where the needs are going to be for developing population if they continue like they are regardless of what people don't want us to do, people are going to want to go congregate at the coast and around the metropolitan areas so

1241
02:22:37,290 --> 02:22:38,670
Kevin Ward: We really need to know

1242
02:22:40,200 --> 02:22:53,400
Kevin Ward: Have a guide, kind of, of what's been looked at in the past and some of those things are available at the Water Board. We just need to get those for the next meeting, so we can have a better conversation on ideas and some brainstorming and that maybe a way to facilitate that.

1243
02:22:56,160 --> 02:22:57,150
Suzanne Schwartz: So, so I thought

1244
02:22:57,930 --> 02:22:58,650
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, I'm sorry.

1245
02:22:59,520 --> 02:23:03,060
Kelley Holcomb: Does anybody at the Board, Temple or

1246
02:23:04,710 --> 02:23:14,640
Kelley Holcomb: Matt. Do you all know. I mean, there were a lot of studies that were funded by the state back in the 50s and 60s. They looked at everything from water supply development to treatment transmission options.

1247
02:23:15,510 --> 02:23:30,540
Kelley Holcomb: We've got some of those in in our database. Well, it's not a database, but in our, in our library of projects. I mean, is that what you're talking about, Kevin, or a part of what you're talking about.
Kevin Ward:
Yeah, it is. I mean, you know,

1248
02:23:33,330 --> 02:23:38,670
Kevin Ward: You know, I mean, and you know, we're looking at interregional stuff here.

1249
02:23:39,210 --> 02:23:47,460
Kevin Ward: We haven't really gone outside of the borders of the state, but yet there's some of those as well. I mean, there's the water from the Sabine that belongs to Louisiana.

1250
02:23:48,390 --> 02:23:58,530
Kevin Ward: Potentially, you could go over into the I think I don't know what they think about over there. You could go into Arkansas or Louisiana and pick up the water from the Sulphur after it's left the state of Texas.

1251
02:23:59,940 --> 02:24:01,950
Kevin Ward: There's, there's lots of things to be looked at.

1252
02:24:03,060 --> 02:24:14,940
Kevin Ward: If you want to start getting into a grandiose you know approach to it, but you're really going to have to broaden the planning horizon. Maybe that's just something we need to make a recommendation for as if we want to be able to facilitate these larger

1253
02:24:16,290 --> 02:24:28,560
Kevin Ward: Visionary projects and and development resources that we haven't considered in the past and we're gonna have to look at costs, populations and other factors well past the 50 year planning horizon.

1254
02:24:29,580 --> 02:24:29,910
Kelley Holcomb: Right.

1255
02:24:32,820 --> 02:24:34,260
Kevin Ward: Where is the parking lot. Suzanne.

1256
02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:37,440
Kevin Ward: Suzanne Schwartz: I took a note. I think it's an interesting

1257
02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:43,320
Suzanne Schwartz: Point. Again, it gets to those issues of, you know, when we have discussions about particular issues. We certainly need to

1258
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:44,910
Suzanne Schwartz:
What resources do you

1259
02:24:44,910 --> 02:24:47,880
Suzanne Schwartz: Need, how do you get there. So that will be something we

1260
02:24:47,940 --> 02:24:59,070
Suzanne Schwartz: I think that, as a group, you you all may want to talk about. Well, I think that's a great point and I took a note on that. So, um,

1261
02:25:00,810 --> 02:25:10,350
Suzanne Schwartz: What I want to move to next is what was Agenda Item number three that, what do you want to accomplish. I have sorted envision this is a fairly just a fairly

1262
02:25:11,010 --> 02:25:16,260
Suzanne Schwartz: Loose conversation about, you know, what you think your goals for the process are and then

1263
02:25:16,680 --> 02:25:24,000
Suzanne Schwartz: What you want your deliverables to look like. I don't think we'll reach a necessarily a resolution, but I thought it would be useful for people

1264
02:25:24,450 --> 02:25:35,220
Suzanne Schwartz: To just have a a chance to talk about most things so that we can think as we go into thinking about what a report might look like things like that will have some of your thoughts.

1265
02:25:35,820 --> 02:25:44,970
Suzanne Schwartz: So with that in mind, what I'd like to do is just bring up is ask you that first question is, what, what is your goal for the process through October.

1266
02:25:46,080 --> 02:25:58,890
Suzanne Schwartz: And rather than go through, everybody. I just, I'd be happy to take, you know, if you want to talk just gonna raise your hand and we'll just do it that way. And then I'll just make follow through to make sure I've caught everybody

1267
02:26:00,420 --> 02:26:06,090
Suzanne Schwartz: So anybody want to start. What do you think, what is your goal for the process through October.

1268
02:26:09,690 --> 02:26:17,760
Kelley Holcomb: Well, we've got to give what the Leg says, which is item D one and two, have to hold a public meeting, we have to prepare report at minimum

1269
02:26:18,870 --> 02:26:19,380
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay.

1270
02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:21,060
Suzanne Schwartz: Kelley Holcomb: That's the

1271
02:26:21,090 --> 02:26:21,690
Kelley Holcomb:
Benchmark

1272
02:26:24,660 --> 02:26:25,020
Suzanne Schwartz: Any other thoughts.

1273
02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:28,680
Kevin Ward: Well it says we need to identify these interregional

1274
02:26:29,130 --> 02:26:32,880
Kevin Ward:
Projects, that could have a statewide impact. So we're going to have to come up with

1275
02:26:32,880 --> 02:26:33,270
Something

1276
02:26:35,040 --> 02:26:46,380
Kevin Ward: You know, and this goes back to my comment earlier about the planning in general and setting standards for what you got. You, you, you know how you what bar, do you hold a project to with regard to information.

1277
02:26:47,610 --> 02:26:57,300
Kevin Ward: We're gonna have to kind of pull the stops off of that, just go back to the old original well if we can dream it up and it looks, you know, practical or feasible, even if we don't have a permit and haven't gone through all the process and

1278
02:26:57,690 --> 02:27:03,600
Kevin Ward: And there's contracts that need to be made and all these other things that have to be done before you can ever do it, pumps and wells and all that.

1279
02:27:04,050 --> 02:27:08,160
Kevin Ward: It's still a strategy right and so maybe we have to look at that from a

1280
02:27:08,850 --> 02:27:14,880
Kevin Ward: broader perspective for these visionary projects, but it's in there it says in the statute, we're supposed to do it so

1281
02:27:15,180 --> 02:27:30,030
Kevin Ward: We're also supposed to read it looked to me like you could read the end of that we're supposed to look at any existing interrregional conflicts and talk about maybe there's a what y'all would think would be a way to comment Region D and Region C on what we did and how we did it.

1282
02:27:31,380 --> 02:27:39,690
Kevin Ward: You know, we had kind of an unprescribed process here at the beginning of it to try to avoid a conflict, conflict. And then there's a prescribed process in the Water Development Board rules.

1283
02:27:40,200 --> 02:27:54,300
Kevin Ward: So we could look at that, you know, is that really the best way to go about this. Wait till there's a flght and then try to settle it because will know what happens once you get into a fight you're in a fight. So it's kind of hard once you've drawn sides.

1284
02:27:54,330 --> 02:28:00,420
Suzanne Schwartz: So, anyone else with thoughts about what your goals for this process should be. And then we're going to the next question. For your information will just be

1285
02:28:01,320 --> 02:28:02,520
Carl Crull: One of the things

1286
02:28:03,090 --> 02:28:08,220
Carl Crull: You know, looking at a lot of strategies I've got in my library somewhere, a 1980

1287
02:28:10,200 --> 02:28:13,440
Carl Crull: Texas Water plan that shows

1288
02:28:14,580 --> 02:28:27,870
Carl Crull: Upteen reservoirs across the state. And you know, that's been been modified by the environmental aspects of things. And so I think we're going to need to take the environmental

1289
02:28:30,540 --> 02:28:35,100
Carl Crull: View and apply it to some of these larger projects.

1290
02:28:36,360 --> 02:28:40,140
Carl Crull: I mean down here on the coast we're already getting a lot of pushback on

1291
02:28:41,610 --> 02:28:43,890
Carl Crull: A couple of desalinization projects.

1292
02:28:45,000 --> 02:28:50,850
Carl Crull: That are pretty far along, in either the conceptual process or even

1293
02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:53,580
Carl Crull: Gone so

1294
02:28:53,610 --> 02:28:55,470
Carl Crull:
Far has been applied for permitting but you know

1295
02:28:58,080 --> 02:28:59,610
Kelley Holcomb: environmental aspects.

1296
02:28:59,610 --> 02:29:01,020
Kelley Holcomb: Of lot of projects are going to

1297
02:29:02,130 --> 02:29:02,610
Kelley Holcomb: Import

1298
02:29:05,490 --> 02:29:06,240
Suzanne Schwartz:
Any other thoughts. Yes, Suzanne.

1299
02:29:08,310 --> 02:29:09,000
Suzanne Scott: Well, I think.

1300
02:29:09,780 --> 02:29:13,500
Suzanne Scott: I know this was said early on in in this meeting, but

1301
02:29:14,040 --> 02:29:16,230
Suzanne Scott: You know, this issue between

1302
02:29:16,410 --> 02:29:19,680
Suzanne Scott: The role of planning versus the role of implementation.

1303
02:29:19,830 --> 02:29:21,150
Suzanne Scott: Is very key here.

1304
02:29:21,210 --> 02:29:22,920
Suzanne Scott:
Because a lot of the comments that have

1305
02:29:22,920 --> 02:29:24,690
Suzanne Scott: Been talked about by many of you.

1306
02:29:25,290 --> 02:29:27,090
Suzanne Scott: Are coming on the implementation side.

1307
02:29:27,630 --> 02:29:31,740
Suzanne Scott: And not necessarily on the planning side. I mean, some of the environmental issues. The the

1308
02:29:32,460 --> 02:29:43,470
Suzanne Scott: Planning process allows for us to identify what potentially those things are and rank them and do all that, which we've all done as it relates to the planning process but

1309
02:29:44,700 --> 02:29:59,370
Suzanne Scott: Looking at interregional projects, trying to figure out how to get those kinds of things, implemented, you know, at some point, the conversation is going to be are we going into implementation vs planning and

1310
02:30:00,900 --> 02:30:06,960
Suzanne Scott: That's a hard concept for a lot of people within those planning process because they think the plan is that they think they can.

1311
02:30:08,310 --> 02:30:19,140
Suzanne Scott: Address a projects concerns political concerns or environmental concerns or stakeholder concerns they think they that they can address those in planning and a lot of times

1312
02:30:19,740 --> 02:30:26,850
Suzanne Scott: All we're doing is putting it on a list. We're not saying it's going to get done. We're not saying it's going to make it. It's not going to get permitted it's, I mean,

1313
02:30:27,270 --> 02:30:36,780
Suzanne Scott: There's a lot of things that just because a project is on a list of doesn't necessarily mean it's met all the obligations to actually get it implemented.

1314
02:30:37,110 --> 02:30:45,300
Suzanne Scott: And that means whatever stakeholder participation, whatever support you need politically or interregionally, or any of that. I mean,

1315
02:30:45,630 --> 02:31:05,430
Suzanne Scott: You know, we, we can talk from Region L perspective about the Vista Ridge project that SAWS has put forward. It's in our plan and but it's not the planning processes responsibility to work out the issues regarding some of the stakeholders concerns about that project.

1316
02:31:07,170 --> 02:31:12,510
Suzanne Scott: So I don't know, I just wanted to put that back on the table here because you know

1317
02:31:13,560 --> 02:31:21,090
Suzanne Scott: Where, what's our role in this Council, are we going to start to come up with ways to deal with those issues that are outside of the planning process.

1318
02:31:21,690 --> 02:31:27,510
Suzanne Scott: Or are we going to now bring that into the planning process, the how to deal with these other issues that are

1319
02:31:28,050 --> 02:31:40,740
Suzanne Scott: Much more local much more specific about the implementation strategies and then get into permitting and get into groundwater districts and their rules and stuff like that. So I'm just, I want to put that back on the table because

1320
02:31:41,340 --> 02:31:47,010
Carl Crull: I kind of agree with you. Suzanne. But, but, you know, when you get to the public comments they

1321
02:31:48,960 --> 02:32:00,660
Carl Crull: You know, the concept is if it's on the list, eventually it's going to happen. And so the the opposition, feels like they need to get in on the ground floor.

1322
02:32:02,730 --> 02:32:06,210
Carl Crull: Starting their, their fight, so to speak.

1323
02:32:07,530 --> 02:32:14,460
Suzanne Scott: And I totally get that. And we've seen that in San Antonio. But again, and you know it's not our role as a

1324
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:23,310
Suzanne Scott: planning group and I agree with what you're saying it absolutely becomes our role because people feel if they can kill it in the planning process then

1325
02:32:23,820 --> 02:32:31,050
Suzanne Scott: Then it won't go forward. But the reality is, is that our, our recipe, if you will, our processes is so prescribed

1326
02:32:31,860 --> 02:32:50,130
Suzanne Scott: Through the through the Water Development Board's rules that really those issues as they should be, should be with the project sponsor those issues to work out our project sponsor responsibilities to get the project from concept to implementation.

1327
02:32:51,330 --> 02:32:56,790
Suzanne Scott: And if we start weighing in on some of those things, it's going to make the planning process become political

1328
02:32:57,840 --> 02:33:04,140
Suzanne Scott: And more engaged in that issue then currently we're supposed to be. We're supposed to literally be solving a problem.

1329
02:33:04,380 --> 02:33:05,430
Suzanne Scott: Here's the demand.

1330
02:33:05,550 --> 02:33:09,330
Suzanne Scott: Here's the supply, how do we put those pieces together.

1331
02:33:10,830 --> 02:33:11,340
Melanie Barnes: So,

1332
02:33:12,210 --> 02:33:16,860
Carl Crull: I think the other limiting factor was is that in this round.

1333
02:33:18,750 --> 02:33:23,280
Carl Crull: We were told, as I understand it, by the Water Development Board the

1334
02:33:26,340 --> 02:33:33,360
Carl Crull: Unless there was a sponsor for a project to go into the plan, we only needed to look at

1335
02:33:35,010 --> 02:33:38,970
Carl Crull: Supplies where there was a shortage

1336
02:33:40,260 --> 02:33:47,490
Carl Crull: And, you know, we're talking, you know, as Kevin said, you know, we're looking at the bigger, longer picture that you know

1337
02:33:48,690 --> 02:33:57,330
Carl Crull: You may not have a shortage at this point, but you know 75 or 100 years from now, you would. So I think that

1338
02:33:59,730 --> 02:34:08,010
Carl Crull: Has to be kind of released a little bit to be able to look at some of these longer bigger ranging plans.

1339
02:34:09,960 --> 02:34:10,620
Matt Nelson: This is not

1340
02:34:11,700 --> 02:34:18,120
Matt Nelson: To be clear, as far as plans that the projects that have planned do not have to have a designated sponsor.

1341
02:34:19,500 --> 02:34:28,770
Matt Nelson: That is, you know, generally, that's the case. That's probably what most of you see all the time that that isn't required for project and for example Region L has had projects that

1342
02:34:29,100 --> 02:34:33,060
Matt Nelson: Right didn't have a sponsor. So I saw, make sure folks are understanding that so

1343
02:34:33,390 --> 02:34:35,040
Matt Nelson: There's some room to maneuver, I guess.

1344
02:34:35,100 --> 02:34:40,170
Carl Crull: The way we, the way we handled it in Region N was with limited amount of funding.

1345
02:34:41,970 --> 02:34:42,960
Carl Crull: Our

1346
02:34:44,790 --> 02:34:49,980
Carl Crull: Consultant only handled, looked at projects that

1347
02:34:51,150 --> 02:35:08,160
Carl Crull: Had a shortage of supply. And if somebody else wanted to put a project and they had to come forward with all of the documentation to support that project. So it could go into the plan.

1348
02:35:08,850 --> 02:35:16,650
Matt Nelson: Where I just want to be clear that you can choose as a region, not to do that. But it's, it is a is an available option in the planning.

1349
02:35:16,650 --> 02:35:18,930
Carl Crull: Well, yeah, it was, it was a

1350
02:35:18,960 --> 02:35:22,620
Carl Crull: It was a funding issue more than anything this go around because

1351
02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:39,750
Suzanne Schwartz: And I wanna I think what I'm hearing Suzanne. I think her concern was to say terms of goals for the Council would be that you think if I were you saying that you think the Council still need to be looking at, at a less at an implementation stage and more of the planning.

1352
02:35:40,200 --> 02:35:42,390
Suzanne Schwartz: Process, itself, is that correct

1353
02:35:42,420 --> 02:35:43,080
Suzanne Scott: Yeah, just

1354
02:35:43,110 --> 02:35:58,170
Suzanne Scott: Well, I'm just bringing up the issue, because I think that when you're starting to get into some of these interregional conflict areas from a planning perspective conflict, not necessarily an implementation perspective conflict that's I guess the question I'm putting on the table.

1355
02:35:59,400 --> 02:36:03,840
Suzanne Scott: That would put some sideboards on our what we'd be looking at

1356
02:36:04,410 --> 02:36:05,850
Suzanne Schwartz: Does anyone else have thoughts about

1357
02:36:05,850 --> 02:36:06,300
That

1358
02:36:08,100 --> 02:36:14,940
Melanie Barnes: Could this is Melanie. Could it be a role of this group to

1359
02:36:16,080 --> 02:36:27,030
Melanie Barnes: When conflicts or multi regional projects come forth for us to distinguish or define

1360
02:36:28,320 --> 02:36:46,920
Melanie Barnes: This is what's involved in the planning process and here. Here's how it does doesn't meet or can or can't meet it. That type of thing. But also add something in there that says there may be these implementation issues going forward. So we don't address them. But we recognize them.

1361
02:36:48,990 --> 02:36:58,680
Melanie Barnes: And would that be a better role for this group, rather than just each region, trying to deal with it because each region has a different level of involvement from public

1362
02:37:08,250 --> 02:37:12,480
Suzanne Schwartz: Any thoughts on that or any other thoughts about the insight on that.

1363
02:37:14,160 --> 02:37:19,170
Suzanne Schwartz: Any thoughts on the goals. Other goals you can think of that for the Council.

1364
02:37:21,690 --> 02:37:31,800
Suzanne Schwartz: I'd like to move then to just a quick question about what you think your deliverables look like. In other words, you're supposed to do a report. What does that look like for instance.

1365
02:37:35,490 --> 02:37:40,350
Suzanne Schwartz: These are just thoughts and we, you know, we'll work through this, but it just gives us some ideas for moving forward.

1366
02:37:47,490 --> 02:37:51,030
Suzanne Schwartz: We can get into it later if y'all don't have anything to say on this.

1367
02:37:52,920 --> 02:37:53,400
Melanie Barnes: It's

1368
02:37:54,780 --> 02:38:02,070
Kevin Ward: If you're just talking about the report itself. I mean, obviously we're gonna have to do some chronicling of the discussions we've had and some of the ideas that came out.

1369
02:38:03,450 --> 02:38:11,400
Kevin Ward: And we can get some assistance from the Water Board on that whenever they write these reports they do the same to talk about when we came together and kind of how we went through this discussion to get to the

1370
02:38:12,090 --> 02:38:20,670
Kevin Ward: Major points that we come out in the final report, but we do we really do need to as you're helping us processes take those statutory

1371
02:38:22,350 --> 02:38:30,540
Kevin Ward: Charges, as well as the ones that were it's been refined a bit by Chairman Larson and

1372
02:38:31,320 --> 02:38:40,110
Kevin Ward: Put in those baskets, what we've discussed, regardless of what it is, even if it wasn't something that we just wrote down right now, we voted on it was something that

1373
02:38:40,470 --> 02:38:48,480
Kevin Ward: Is pretty obvious. It's a point that we were discussing like what Suzanne and Carl just did you know those types of issues need to come up

1374
02:38:50,040 --> 02:38:50,910
Kevin Ward: You know, and

1375
02:38:51,750 --> 02:39:02,820
Kevin Ward: I think we're going all struggle with is that our role could when it says to facilitate discussion on these multi regional projects is that our role to look at the ones that are in conflict and talk about those projects on the

1376
02:39:02,970 --> 02:39:07,950
Kevin Ward: That we need to decide by the next meeting. So I have time to do it, we certainly can.

1377
02:39:08,250 --> 02:39:15,060
Kevin Ward: Those are the models for how you avoided interrregional conflicts and I can't help but think that this Council will pull together in part.

1378
02:39:15,540 --> 02:39:26,190
Kevin Ward: To prevent those conflicts, maybe by looking at higher level longer term projects that might avoid some of the ones that in the short range or are in conflict right now.

1379
02:39:27,000 --> 02:39:34,380
Kevin Ward: Or maybe because if you look at it a longer term sense, the longer term solution solves the problems it creates conflict currently

1380
02:39:36,120 --> 02:39:36,810
Melanie Barnes: I think one of the.

1381
02:39:39,090 --> 02:39:51,810
Kevin Ward: Carefully as as as here's what how we hit this charge, this charge, this charge, this charge and then have some background that the Board puts in their typing up some of the dialogue, we've had. Suzanne Schwartz: That's good Kevin, I've got that.

1382
02:39:54,360 --> 02:39:54,630
Melanie Barnes: So, so

1383
02:39:54,960 --> 02:40:04,410
Melanie Barnes: I was gonna say, I think it is important to address the bullets, we've been given, even if the the address.

1384
02:40:06,420 --> 02:40:17,370
Melanie Barnes: That bullet is this needs to be in the next water plan cycle because it is something of importance and here's our few thoughts on it. So I don't really think we have to

1385
02:40:18,780 --> 02:40:23,370
Melanie Barnes: Have an answer about solving everything in six months or five months. However, many months it is now.

1386
02:40:23,820 --> 02:40:35,670
Melanie Barnes: But, but the fact that we've addressed it thought about it and said, here's a possible way to go forward, and this needs more consideration or that sort of thing. So at least the legislature has some guidance as to

1387
02:40:36,810 --> 02:40:38,190
Melanie Barnes: What this group of people thinks

1388
02:40:39,990 --> 02:40:40,950
Suzanne Schwartz: Other thoughts.

1389
02:40:45,690 --> 02:40:52,470
Suzanne Schwartz: Well, I definitely got a, have gotten a sense so far you want the report to certainly include to chronicle the process to

1390
02:40:52,770 --> 02:41:03,660
Suzanne Schwartz: Reflect, you know, your conversations, ideas, different things like that, within each of the bullets and and if you which ones you've chosen feel like you were able to tackle and which ones are

1391
02:41:04,080 --> 02:41:10,590
Suzanne Schwartz: You still, you know, recommending looking at for the next cycle. Those were some of the things I heard. Anything else.

1392
02:41:13,770 --> 02:41:14,310
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay.

1393
02:41:16,020 --> 02:41:23,910
Suzanne Schwartz: Then if you're ready, we will move to the last. The last agenda item, which is how the councils' going to operate.

1394
02:41:28,200 --> 02:41:29,100
Suzanne Schwartz: And

1395
02:41:34,140 --> 02:41:44,730
Suzanne Schwartz: We have several different issues we've identified so far, you may want to add to the list of issues, but I'm going to kind of, kind of just start working through this and have a discussion with you.

1396
02:41:45,570 --> 02:41:53,040
Suzanne Schwartz: One is the Open Meeting Act requirements. This is just a reminder that you all are subject to Open Meetings Act.

1397
02:41:53,490 --> 02:41:56,790
Suzanne Schwartz: There is information about the Open Meetings Act in both the

1398
02:41:57,240 --> 02:42:02,940
Suzanne Schwartz: Best Practices guides that the board has developed for the regional water planning groups and also

1399
02:42:03,870 --> 02:42:15,030
Suzanne Schwartz: If the A.G.'s Attorney General's website has a resource guide. So those are things. And I know you're all used to them for from for  as people who work for

1400
02:42:15,660 --> 02:42:23,520
Suzanne Schwartz: entities that are subject to those all the time, but I just wanted to remind you of that. One of the things that we are doing

1401
02:42:24,300 --> 02:42:36,690
Suzanne Schwartz: at the suggestion of the Board's general counsel is I'm individually emailing you all so that there's no inadvertent reply to all which could end up being a violation of the

1402
02:42:37,200 --> 02:42:38,550
Suzanne Schwartz: Open Meetings Act.

1403
02:42:39,270 --> 02:42:42,810
Suzanne Schwartz: So that's one thing. And so I want to make sure you all just

1404
02:42:43,260 --> 02:42:53,640
Suzanne Schwartz: You know, clear, clear. We've been advised not to have a walking quorum where, you know, you kind of talk among yourselves and that turns into a discussion among a quorum of you so

1405
02:42:54,240 --> 02:43:13,020
Suzanne Schwartz: Just a few just kind of, again, an awareness of that issue and and i any. Anybody have any questions about Open Meetings Act. So I probably won't answer because I am I have actually I am in inactive status for my law license. So I give no legal advice anymore.

1406
02:43:14,220 --> 02:43:16,830
Suzanne Schwartz: Kevin, you might enjoy hearing that so

1407
02:43:18,390 --> 02:43:20,070
Kevin Ward: But I can't believe you're really retired. That's hard to believe.

1408
02:43:23,250 --> 02:43:37,980
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, then let's move on. Quorum to meet the statute be because you're an entity that was created by statute, your the I've been advised that a simple quorum is what you need in order to transact business.

1409
02:43:38,670 --> 02:43:50,580
Suzanne Schwartz: I've also been told by the Board's general counsel that you can probably choose to have a larger amount of people present. If you feel like you want something greater than a

1410
02:43:51,120 --> 02:44:07,770
Suzanne Schwartz: quorum to meet. So just a quick question. Does anybody want to have a, to opt to, to actually require more than a simple, the nine people that would constitute a quorum in order to

1411
02:44:09,270 --> 02:44:12,240
Suzanne Schwartz: To meet. If anybody wants more more than nine people

1412
02:44:13,650 --> 02:44:18,990
Suzanne Schwartz: Present to conduct business would you raise your hand or say something

1413
02:44:24,990 --> 02:44:27,450
Suzanne Schwartz: Not seeing anything. Okay.

1414
02:44:29,190 --> 02:44:32,220
Suzanne Schwartz: So we'll assume then that your quorum is

1415
02:44:33,270 --> 02:44:35,880
Suzanne Schwartz: Is is nine people to to meet

1416
02:44:38,190 --> 02:44:47,040
Suzanne Schwartz: The next thing would be whether you want to have a chair or a co Chair of your group. I'll just ask your thoughts about that. What are you

1417
02:44:47,070 --> 02:44:47,820
Like on that.

1418
02:44:55,890 --> 02:45:01,980
Suzanne Scott: No one wants to say anything because as soon as they do, they're going to become chair. So I don't want to be chair. But I think that

1419
02:45:02,370 --> 02:45:12,300
Suzanne Scott: I think it would be good, particularly if we have a requirement to present this report through to a to a committee of

1420
02:45:12,960 --> 02:45:21,450
Suzanne Scott: The legislature. I think the committee appreciates having people who've participated in the process to be chaired to present

1421
02:45:21,960 --> 02:45:34,830
Suzanne Scott: And obviously a chair would be someone that would be great to be able to do that, but I don't want to be anybody. I don't want to be a chair. I'm just suggesting it may be a good idea to represent this to represent the group.

1422
02:45:37,050 --> 02:45:38,430
Suzanne Schwartz: Anyone else have thoughts on that.

1423
02:45:39,600 --> 02:45:42,540
Melanie Barnes: Well, I would be happy to be a presenter, but not a chair.

1424
02:45:45,420 --> 02:45:46,380
Patrick Brzozowski: Well, that's

1425
02:45:46,440 --> 02:45:56,430
Melanie Barnes: At this point, you know, they may change next fall. But right now, I've been moving my mom and that's she's having trouble adjusting. So, oh, that's kind of a big one on my plate.

1426
02:45:57,720 --> 02:46:05,370
Patrick Brzozowski: I don't think you necessarily need a chair to have someone present the information. So I think this is a decision that can be made later on.

1427
02:46:07,110 --> 02:46:17,340
Suzanne Scott: I agree. I just think we need to designate someone who would ultimately do that and you're right it doesn't need to be a chair just someone who's going to represent the group publicly through the process.

1428
02:46:20,790 --> 02:46:24,450
Suzanne Schwartz: Does anyone support having a chair. I'll just let me ask that question.

1429
02:46:26,670 --> 02:46:30,270
Kevin Ward: I think it'd be best not to have a chair, only because that way.

1430
02:46:31,290 --> 02:46:38,580
Kevin Ward: Most people feel like they need to, you know, participate. They won't just defer to a chair. I mean,

1431
02:46:39,690 --> 02:46:52,530
Kevin Ward: If you facilitate it should be fine, because we're just doing voting and put together a report, I think most of us are pretty good at reviewing reports and and none of us are shy about making comments.

1432
02:46:55,170 --> 02:46:55,980
Melanie Barnes: I concur.

1433
02:46:57,270 --> 02:47:07,590
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, I'm not seeing anyone who's jumping out to support having a chair. So, we will move on to the question of method for making decisions and we've actually

1434
02:47:07,950 --> 02:47:13,260
Suzanne Schwartz: Again statute will provide provides that you're that entity of

1435
02:47:14,040 --> 02:47:32,610
Suzanne Schwartz: majority decision is what would govern. We've put together a quick poll to see if you all, if that's the your preference for making decisions or if you would prefer to do something else. Such a super majority or consensus, so you'll just register your preference.

1436
02:47:32,700 --> 02:47:34,470
Suzanne Schwartz: On again this is for the

1437
02:47:34,890 --> 02:47:41,580
Suzanne Schwartz: Members of the Council only and we'll just get a sense of what how you want to make, make your decisions.

1438
02:48:01,980 --> 02:48:06,120
Suzanne Schwartz: Is there one more person that needs to participate in the vote.

1439
02:48:11,310 --> 02:48:14,970
Suzanne Schwartz: Got 15 of you registered on the poll.

1440
02:48:18,180 --> 02:48:18,690
Ray Buck: Videos.

1441
02:48:24,240 --> 02:48:27,870
Suzanne Schwartz: Well, right now, even with just the of you. We've got

1442
02:48:29,310 --> 02:48:38,220
Suzanne Schwartz: Two thirds of the people who polled prefer to use a simple majority. Consensus is the next

1443
02:48:39,960 --> 02:48:48,690
Suzanne Schwartz: The next but it's only got less than a third of the participants. So does anyone want to strongly advocate for something

1444
02:48:48,720 --> 02:48:50,190
Suzanne Schwartz: Other than a simple majority.

1445
02:48:55,980 --> 02:48:58,740
Suzanne Schwartz: I'm not hearing it. So I will

1446
02:49:00,600 --> 02:49:06,720
Suzanne Schwartz: Will take that to mean that you all are going to operate with a simple majority to make decisions.

1447
02:49:07,230 --> 02:49:16,170
Suzanne Schwartz: I will tell you that as a facilitator, I'll do my best to make sure everyone is heard. And that you all take into account every you're up the the

1448
02:49:16,560 --> 02:49:26,010
Suzanne Schwartz: The issues that people find important I think someone mentioned that in what y'all thought were best practices, I, I think it's really important for you to hear what everybody has to say.

1449
02:49:26,370 --> 02:49:36,420
Suzanne Schwartz: And then take those into consideration when making the decision, but it sounds looks like we'll probably operate with a simple majority, given what what your preferences are.

1450
02:49:38,790 --> 02:49:41,310
Suzanne Schwartz: Then kind of wanted to talk

1451
02:49:41,610 --> 02:49:44,220
Suzanne Schwartz: The numbers of meetings and logistics. I'm not

1452
02:49:44,610 --> 02:49:56,160
Suzanne Schwartz: entirely sure how to do that. I think at a minimum, we probably need to meet one more time and plus something to gather the report, and I don't know if

1453
02:49:56,520 --> 02:50:07,170
Suzanne Schwartz: If y'all have preferences on how how many meetings your or can attend or want to attend the and we might talk even about the use of subcommittees while we're talking about that.

1454
02:50:09,540 --> 02:50:10,860
Suzanne Schwartz: Your thoughts.

1455
02:50:17,250 --> 02:50:19,260
Kevin Ward: I think we're too small to have subcommittees.

1456
02:50:22,530 --> 02:50:27,810
Temple McKinnon: I'm not a council member, but I want to throw out there that you know we're meeting remotely given the governor's

1457
02:50:28,620 --> 02:50:32,010
Temple McKinnon: Waiver wants for this public meetings so

1458
02:50:32,160 --> 02:50:34,950
Temple McKinnon: That's an unknown Suzanne, did you want to discuss that.

1459
02:50:35,430 --> 02:50:41,310
Suzanne Schwartz: Yeah, I think it is a question. So look, you know, unless it less the gov, if the

1460
02:50:41,430 --> 02:50:46,380
Suzanne Schwartz: If the governor lifts the ability to meet remotely. I actually haven't looked to see if

1461
02:50:46,770 --> 02:50:48,390
Suzanne Schwartz: It does everyone have to

1462
02:50:49,170 --> 02:50:52,650
Suzanne Schwartz: Can anyone join remotely Temple. Do you know if we don't

1463
02:50:52,770 --> 02:50:55,470
Suzanne Schwartz: If we can't

1464
02:50:55,680 --> 02:50:59,010
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay. Well, well, we can look at that. But let's assume that we

1465
02:51:00,210 --> 02:51:05,580
Suzanne Schwartz: That there may be a potential of the governor will lift our ability to meet remotely.

1466
02:51:07,560 --> 02:51:13,290
Suzanne Schwartz: Thoughts about what a meeting might look like, do you, are you all willing and able to come to a meeting.

1467
02:51:15,480 --> 02:51:16,620
Suzanne Schwartz: Anybody have concerns.

1468
02:51:16,620 --> 02:51:17,010
Well,

1469
02:51:18,030 --> 02:51:25,980
Melanie Barnes: It seems like if we're stuck in meeting this way, then

1470
02:51:27,390 --> 02:51:33,840
Melanie Barnes: Meeting, a little bit more often is easy. Meeting for a full day or half two half days.

1471
02:51:34,560 --> 02:51:35,490
Melanie Barnes: Right next to each other.

1472
02:51:36,060 --> 02:51:37,860
So that you have time for travel.

1473
02:51:39,210 --> 02:51:40,440
Melanie Barnes: To help us.

1474
02:51:41,490 --> 02:51:47,340
Melanie Barnes: I guess what I'm trying to say is if we're going to be this way until we have to write the report we may want to meet more often than

1475
02:51:47,460 --> 02:51:48,720
Melanie Barnes:
If we meet in person.

1476
02:51:50,790 --> 02:51:51,690
Suzanne Schwartz: Other thoughts.

1477
02:51:53,190 --> 02:51:59,250
Kevin Ward: Well, I think that, you know, we're going to likely be able to continue to do this at least through the end of May.

1478
02:52:00,540 --> 02:52:01,530
Kevin Ward: Without a problem.

1479
02:52:02,790 --> 02:52:05,820
Kevin Ward: And potentially even into June.

1480
02:52:07,860 --> 02:52:11,220
Kevin Ward: I mean, when you if we're gonna if we conducted this as an open meeting.

1481
02:52:12,480 --> 02:52:21,090
Kevin Ward: I would believe more than 50 people would want to attend. And so if we're restricted on those kind of public gatherings to no more than

1482
02:52:21,630 --> 02:52:33,330
Kevin Ward: Right now, it's what 10 and then it's going to be 50, I think i think we're good for all the way through May and part of June. So if the, if we get our if we work on this and concentrate on it.

1483
02:52:34,350 --> 02:52:44,250
Kevin Ward: In those these first two months and will continue to be able to do it this way and that might be more productive for actually doing this kind of report that we're looking at.

1484
02:52:45,780 --> 02:52:49,170
Kevin Ward: Just my thoughts. I mean, I'll go with whatever the group wants to do.

1485
02:52:50,220 --> 02:52:53,880
Kevin Ward: This, this, this might be just as good a way to take care of it as any

1486
02:52:58,020 --> 02:53:00,630
Patrick Brzozowski: Great, but I think shorter and more meetings would be beneficial.

1487
02:53:03,510 --> 02:53:03,690
Suzanne Scott: Yes.

1488
02:53:04,200 --> 02:53:04,980
Suzanne Scott: And I guess that

1489
02:53:05,220 --> 02:53:09,540
Suzanne Scott: If we're gonna do that, regardless of whether we're doing it online or in person.

1490
02:53:09,990 --> 02:53:19,500
Suzanne Scott: Setting those dates now, even if we set several meetings and then we end up canceling it I think just all of us are busy and our schedules are filling up just because we're

1491
02:53:20,730 --> 02:53:33,270
Suzanne Scott: Some of some people are working remotely doesn't mean we're not busy because we're all are. So I would say get those dates on the calendar as soon as possible, between now and whenever we feel like we need to get the work done. I mean, if we have to have it done by October.

1492
02:53:33,690 --> 02:53:34,440
Suzanne Scott: Then you know

1493
02:53:35,250 --> 02:53:38,550
Suzanne Scott: There's a lot of work that needs to be done in a very short period of time.

1494
02:53:38,670 --> 02:53:40,050
Suzanne Scott: So I would just suggest that

1495
02:53:42,210 --> 02:53:42,810
Tomas Rodriguez: I agree.

1496
02:53:44,100 --> 02:53:44,820
Melanie Barnes: I agree.

1497
02:53:46,200 --> 02:53:50,370
Melanie Barnes: Typically, the minute we're allowed to travel, we're going to be out to the field so

1498
02:53:52,620 --> 02:53:52,890
Suzanne Schwartz:
Okay.

1499
02:53:53,070 --> 02:53:55,770
Suzanne Schwartz: So it sounds like we should what I'm hearing is

1500
02:53:56,820 --> 02:53:57,720
Suzanne Schwartz: Try to meet

1501
02:53:58,050 --> 02:54:01,470
Suzanne Schwartz: While we have this window where we can meet remotely set

1502
02:54:01,740 --> 02:54:05,490
Suzanne Schwartz: Several shorter meetings spaced, obviously, so we can

1503
02:54:05,730 --> 02:54:08,820
Suzanne Schwartz: get work done in between and get them on the calendar quickly.

1504
02:54:10,380 --> 02:54:11,190
Suzanne Schwartz:
We can

1505
02:54:11,460 --> 02:54:12,120
Suzanne Schwartz: We can

1506
02:54:12,510 --> 02:54:22,980
Suzanne Schwartz: Get a poll out about meeting time availabilities for you all, and we'll pick the ones that have the most were the most, most of you can attend if that works for you all.

1507
02:54:25,320 --> 02:54:35,910
Suzanne Schwartz: Um, any other, Kevin I guess expressed a sense about a subcommittee. Does anybody else have any thoughts about whether you want subcommittees or is that a question to defer

1508
02:54:37,170 --> 02:54:38,160
Suzanne Schwartz: Later, as we

1509
02:54:38,250 --> 02:54:41,010
Suzanne Schwartz: As to see if something might warrant it

1510
02:54:41,130 --> 02:54:48,060
Carl Crull: Well, I would agree with Kevin for, you know, since we've got a October deadline for report.

1511
02:54:49,530 --> 02:54:52,530
Carl Crull: And maybe as we go along in the

1512
02:54:53,460 --> 02:55:01,620
Carl Crull: Next year, or the future years there may be a need for subcommittee, but I really don't see it at this point.

1513
02:55:04,650 --> 02:55:06,450
Patrick Brzozowski: I don't see it unless we get stuck on something.

1514
02:55:10,320 --> 02:55:12,120
Mark Evans: About between now and October 14

1515
02:55:13,980 --> 02:55:23,340
Melanie Barnes: We don't have time to get stuck.
Suzanne Schwartz:
So it sounds like we should look for a meeting fairly soon for the for the next meeting. And so we'll go ahead and get a

1516
02:55:23,490 --> 02:55:25,200
Suzanne Schwartz: Poll out to you all on that.

1517
02:55:26,880 --> 02:55:27,840
Suzanne Schwartz: The

1518
02:55:29,910 --> 02:55:30,870
Suzanne Schwartz:
Public comments.

1519
02:55:30,900 --> 02:55:34,020
Suzanne Schwartz: That just your question we structured this meeting, so that the

1520
02:55:34,290 --> 02:55:35,400
Suzanne Schwartz: Public can make

1521
02:55:35,460 --> 02:55:42,990
Suzanne Schwartz: Comments at the end of the meeting. Do you have preferences and we've we've set it at three minutes each. Do you all have

1522
02:55:43,350 --> 02:55:54,090
Suzanne Schwartz: A preference for any different procedure, sometimes people do public comments up front, sometimes you know they do it after every item. I just wanted to see what y'alls preference was.

1523
02:55:56,220 --> 02:55:57,630
Kelley Holcomb: Definitely not after every item.

1524
02:55:59,280 --> 02:56:00,000
Mark Evans: I would suggest we have

1525
02:56:00,840 --> 02:56:06,000
Mark Evans: A public comment session at the start of the meeting and then at the end of the meeting. Yeah.

1526
02:56:08,880 --> 02:56:09,720
Melanie Barnes: That sounds good.

1527
02:56:11,100 --> 02:56:13,260
Tomas Rodriguez: I think we should have it at the beginning

1528
02:56:13,770 --> 02:56:16,230
Tomas Rodriguez: Sorry, I think we should have a beginning and that's it.

1529
02:56:18,210 --> 02:56:18,600
Tomas Rodriguez: Just my opinion.

1530
02:56:21,030 --> 02:56:25,800
Kevin Ward: I prefer to report at the beginning to. But if I could go either way on that.
Melanie Barnes:
I find

1531
02:56:26,220 --> 02:56:27,930
Melanie Barnes: As someone who's been in the public

1532
02:56:29,850 --> 02:56:37,950
Melanie Barnes: That being able to say something at the beginning. If you truly have something you want the group to think about is nice.

1533
02:56:37,980 --> 02:56:49,380
Melanie Barnes: Because if you just want to hand it to the group and answer whatever questions they have review and then let the group do their thing. You can leave. But I also think it's nice to

1534
02:56:49,380 --> 02:56:51,840
Melanie Barnes: Allow, particularly when you have just the three minutes.

1535
02:56:52,080 --> 02:56:52,710
Melanie Barnes: To allow them

1536
02:56:53,910 --> 02:57:02,070
Melanie Barnes: To respond to any decisions or questions that may still be laying on the table and for the Board to hear it and

1537
02:57:03,270 --> 02:57:11,910
Melanie Barnes: I've always found it useful to do that with the public is to have something at the end. In addition to the beginning. If you're going to have them at the beginning because that just it

1538
02:57:13,560 --> 02:57:17,760
Melanie Barnes: It just is. It's a good way to deal with it and it's a good way to deal with the public.

1539
02:57:18,390 --> 02:57:20,550
Melanie Barnes: And it's a good way to have them engaged. If

1540
02:57:20,550 --> 02:57:29,520
Melanie Barnes: They need to be engaged, but also for the group to figure out where the problems might be and where the concerns might be of the people we're representing

1541
02:57:30,570 --> 02:57:35,310
Suzanne Scott: I also think that we, and I don't have it right in front of me but and I'd have to look at my emails, but

1542
02:57:35,400 --> 02:57:44,250
Suzanne Scott: I know in our TWCA general managers meeting just the other day we were presented with an A.G. opinion that I think was pretty clear that you're supposed to

1543
02:57:45,240 --> 02:57:49,080
Suzanne Scott: Make sure that the public has an opportunity to comment before you would take action.

1544
02:57:49,920 --> 02:57:59,010
Suzanne Scott: And so that you can be part of the consideration of the action. Now you don't want to do it in every item, but if we do have actions. Now we're going to be making actions based on a super

1545
02:57:59,550 --> 02:58:06,510
Suzanne Scott: Simple majority, I think you have to allow for the public to make the comment prior to the action. So that would be at the beginning of the meeting.

1546
02:58:07,170 --> 02:58:15,390
Suzanne Scott: I think that's what it said. I don't have in front of me, but I think that's the clarification that was made. Somebody else may have in front of them and they can that was in that meeting.

1547
02:58:18,450 --> 02:58:24,480
Suzanne Schwartz: I'm hearing. Just a general trend do it at the beginning and do it at the end is that anyone have objections to that.

1548
02:58:27,600 --> 02:58:37,500
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, um, the last item will will figure the date out via a poll. I would love it if if

1549
02:58:38,760 --> 02:58:42,630
Suzanne Schwartz: If a couple of you would like to volunteer to help us.

1550
02:58:43,050 --> 02:58:53,520
Suzanne Schwartz: Develop the agenda, just, it's always good to have your perspectives as we develop it. And I wonder if I'm, if there are any volunteers.

1551
02:58:55,770 --> 02:59:03,720
Suzanne Schwartz: We would, we would not involve you in lengthy discussions, but we would bring you in as you know, in a consultant role, so to speak.

1552
02:59:04,950 --> 02:59:06,150
Melanie Barnes: I'm happy to do that.

1553
02:59:08,010 --> 02:59:11,250
David Wheelock: Suzanne. I've got my hand up to speak, not that I'm volunteering.

1554
02:59:11,550 --> 02:59:12,720
Suzanne Schwartz: Not to volunteer what

1555
02:59:15,210 --> 02:59:16,170
David Wheelock: I was

1556
02:59:16,230 --> 02:59:19,110
David Wheelock: I was going to suggest at least maybe the idea of working

1557
02:59:19,110 --> 02:59:23,670
David Wheelock: With a couple of members is a great idea, or put up and draft agenda, the whole group for comment.

1558
02:59:24,060 --> 02:59:35,940
Suzanne Schwartz: Yeah, we could do both, too. I mean, I think, I think actually doing both is a really useful way. So definitely put the draft agenda out for you. And then would love to have again and did

1559
02:59:36,720 --> 02:59:38,340
Suzanne Schwartz: You say you were not volunteering

1560
02:59:39,510 --> 02:59:40,800
Suzanne Schwartz: Or you were volunteering.

1561
02:59:42,450 --> 02:59:47,340
David Wheelock: I'm happy to volunteer if you need it, but I think maybe over the, over to

1562
02:59:49,710 --> 02:59:50,580
David Whellock:
16 comments on the agenda

1563
02:59:52,860 --> 02:59:54,630
Suzanne Schwartz: You are fading out. I couldn't really hear you, David.

1564
02:59:56,190 --> 03:00:05,880
David Wheelock: I'm sorry, I'm happy to volunteer, if you need a volunteer. But if you put it out for the group for the draft agenda for review, I don't, I doubt if you get 16 comments. I think that's

1565
03:00:07,320 --> 03:00:07,860
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay.

1566
03:00:09,390 --> 03:00:10,530
Tomas Rodriguez: I like his office.

1567
03:00:15,840 --> 03:00:28,950
Kevin Ward: So I have only one other item that I thought of it when I went back and reviewed chairman Larson's letter, the very first item was for us to review any identified interregional conflicts.

1568
03:00:30,030 --> 03:00:40,830
Kevin Ward: At what point will the Water Board know whether they have a potential interregional conflict. I mean, the 60 days. I don't know if it's run yet, but it will run

1569
03:00:41,940 --> 03:00:45,150
Kevin Ward: Because, you know, being the likely suspect for probably

1570
03:00:45,150 --> 03:00:46,020
Kevin Ward: The only one

1571
03:00:47,490 --> 03:00:51,270
Kevin Ward: You know, which is of interest to me if that's going to come up

1572
03:00:54,090 --> 03:00:54,360
Kelley Holcomb: Temple McKinnon:
Oh,so

1573
03:00:55,110 --> 03:01:10,680
Temple McKinnon: Kevin. So the process in our rules right now is the planning groups can assert adverse impact during the initially prepared plan review and the deadline for us to be notified by a planning group about that is May 11.

1574
03:01:13,980 --> 03:01:15,780
Temple McKinnon: So I would say after May 11 we would

1575
03:01:17,610 --> 03:01:20,490
Temple McKinnon: Know what's for consideration. 
Kevin Ward: Well, that may

1576
03:01:20,580 --> 03:01:26,730
Kevin Ward: Be something that might dictate when we want to have that meeting, anyway. Okay. For the next meeting, anyway.

1577
03:01:27,750 --> 03:01:28,500
Suzanne Schwartz:
Mark Did you

1578
03:01:28,710 --> 03:01:29,700
Did you have something

1579
03:01:33,720 --> 03:01:33,990
Mark Evans: No, no.

1580
03:01:34,800 --> 03:01:37,860
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, there's a little raised hand sign up there so

1581
03:01:39,330 --> 03:01:40,590
Suzanne Schwartz: Does anybody else have any

1582
03:01:40,740 --> 03:01:41,460
Mark Evans: It's reading my mind.

1583
03:01:45,660 --> 03:01:53,100
Suzanne Schwartz: Does, so we're will move to the, is there anything I've missed in terms of kind of organizational issues, you'd like to

1584
03:01:53,100 --> 03:01:53,640
Discuss

1585
03:01:57,510 --> 03:01:58,410
Suzanne Schwartz: Okay then.

1586
03:01:59,520 --> 03:02:05,190
Suzanne Schwartz: Any, anything that we haven't talked about that would fall within the posted agenda, you'd like to talk about

1587
03:02:08,820 --> 03:02:09,510
Suzanne Schwartz: The next item.

1588
03:02:10,830 --> 03:02:11,160
Suzanne Schwartz: I'm sorry.

1589
03:02:11,190 --> 03:02:14,400
Kevin Ward: Are you going to take public comments. Yes, that was next. So I was

1590
03:02:14,670 --> 03:02:16,770
Suzanne Schwartz: Thinking that out before the public comments so

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Suzanne Schwartz: Public comment is next. And what we'll do is the we've got other ones up on the screen. Basically, if you're on zoom you can click, raise your hand on the screen and

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Suzanne Schwartz: Then if you're on telephone hit star nine if you want to provide comment and then Vicki, who's administering it will notify you when it's your turn to speak and I will just do a double check at the end to make sure we've captured everyone and then please limit it to three minutes.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Is anybody. Is there anybody wanting to speak.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki. I'm not showing anyone who is indicating a desire to address the council, are you

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Vicki Read: I'm not. I can, I can unmute

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Vicki Read: Everyone in case, we're just not seeing it.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, why don't you do that and then we'll see in that way we'll do a double check.

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Kevin Ward: And David Wheelock has his hand up for something. I'm not sure.
David Wheelock:
I just, just a question.

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David Wheelock: Curiosity about how many, how many people are on the Zoom call. We can't. We not aware of

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Suzanne Schwartz: um

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Vicki Read: 40

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40 Something

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Suzanne Schwartz: And that would include those who are designated as panelists which is

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Suzanne Schwartz: The Council members and Board some of the Board staff, the people you see on the screen, which is about

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Kevin Ward: 24. Yeah. And then there's 16 attendees so there's 16 people left listening in.

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David Wheelock:
Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: And some of those are Board or Board staff.

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Kevin Ward: But I'm not seeing any hands raised on the raised hand thing.

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Suzanne Schwartz: So I'm just so if

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Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki. Have you unmuted.

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Everyone

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Vicki Read: Yes.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, does anyone who, does anyone want to address the council and make a public comment.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, I'm not hearing any one. So at this point, unless, any of the council members or the Board staff has anything else you want to say.

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Suzanne Schwartz: I think we're ready to adjourn.

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David Wheelock: Hey Suzanne.
Suzanne Schwartz:
Yes.

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David Wheelock: I think it may have been Kevin that brought it up on some of these items, maybe, just maybe there's only one item that was

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David Wheelock: Interregional planning, interregional projects that we could propose for the statewide benefit. He mentioned old water plans previous previous plans that have been considered, previous ideas.

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David Wheelock: Do we want to identify any subject matter experts that might want to present to us on that type of item.

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David Wheelock: So just, just to get them lined up, line them up on and on and agenda for a future meeting.

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Suzanne Schwartz: I think that's an excellent idea and kind of goes to a broader question of what materials do you want

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Suzanne Schwartz: To start tackling these questions. Do y'all want to talk about that today. Um, do you want to handle it offline. Because I do think that's a really relevant and important question is to make sure we get facts before you so you can make informed decisions.

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David Wheelock: Since I have my microphone on and open here I'd suggest probably doing offline as we start to think about an agenda.

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David Wheelock: You know how many meetings and how many agendas to put together is scheduled, schedule out what items at what meeting.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Sounds good. So talking basically make a long term plan for the for what's going to

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Suzanne Schwartz: Be considered at different agendas and we can talk about that, at which point we'll start to think about the different resources, you'll need both.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Background materials, experts, things like that. Does anyone have anything. Does that ways to improve that plan or alter it in any way. Any thoughts at this point.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Excellent.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Are y'all ready. Raise your hand if you're ready to say goodbye.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you all very much. I appreciate your patience. Um, this was my first first meeting that I facilitated by zoom. So it was an experience for me and I will welcome any suggestions, feel free to just shoot me either call me or email me if you have suggestions on how to improve this

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Process.

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Kevin Ward: All right, stay safe. Thank you.

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Tomas Rodriguez: Thank you very much.

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Allison Strube: Thank you.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you.

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Melanie Barnes: Nice job.

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Tomas Rodriguez: Thank you, everybody.

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Suzanne Schwartz: Yeah, thanks.

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Tomas Rodriguez: Thank you.