WEBVTT 00:00.480 --> 00:04.710 Suzanne Scott: We're hoping that based on our kind of going through the agenda. 00:06.480 --> 00:07.470 Suzanne Scott: I may jinx it, 00:07.649 --> 00:14.490 Suzanne Scott: but I think we're going to be able to get out before the time that we have allotted for this meeting. That's my, my goal. 00:15.929 --> 00:17.130 Suzanne Scott: So we're going to 00:17.310 --> 00:27.360 Suzanne Scott: get started here first. And I'm going to kind of let Suzanne Schwartz, do some of the housekeeping so that we can get everybody ready for the meeting. Suzanne. 00:32.700 --> 00:33.180 Kelley Holcomb: You're muted. 00:33.600 --> 00:34.230 Suzanne Scott: You're muted. 00:37.740 --> 00:51.120 Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you. Okay, I know y'all have all been busy and committees and that's what we're going to focus on primarily today is what the committees have been doing and and I think I'm excited to hear about your work. 00:52.200 --> 00:58.230 Suzanne Schwartz: Obviously remind you all to mute. The agenda today is is going to focus 00:59.370 --> 01:05.730 Suzanne Schwartz: primarily on after public comment we'll have the meeting minutes and then consider 01:06.630 --> 01:14.010 Suzanne Schwartz: the work of the committees and the interregional conflict working group and within that there'll be various 01:14.460 --> 01:23.850 Suzanne Schwartz: discussions. Hopefully some reports from the committees, any questions and input from the Council on some discussion about how you'll move forward with reporting. 01:24.690 --> 01:36.900 Suzanne Schwartz: And meeting some goals to get your report done in September. Then we'll move into discussion about the, the report outline that Suzanne Scott and 01:36.930 --> 01:40.410 Suzanne Schwartz: Kelley Holcomb have provided some a revised 01:40.440 --> 01:52.230 Suzanne Schwartz: outline for your report. And we'll discuss a little bit about how that gets the workload that gets accomplished. Then just the typical next steps and future agenda discussion. 01:53.040 --> 01:54.450 Suzanne Schwartz: Questions about the agenda? 01:55.290 --> 01:56.430 Suzanne Scott: Any questions or 01:57.510 --> 02:02.130 Suzanne Scott: any comments on the agenda? Otherwise, we're going to proceed as it was posted. 02:03.210 --> 02:11.820 Kelley Holcomb: I do have one question, Suzanne. Temple, you had, somebody made a call yesterday about reports from the different committees and I know that 02:13.080 --> 02:20.610 Kelley Holcomb: our committee under Steve leadership is produced a document. Were there other committees, were there documents produced as well for those? 02:21.960 --> 02:26.940 Temple McKinnon: No, I sent committee chairs, just some general information. There is no 02:28.680 --> 02:30.330 Temple McKinnon: requirement that they submit a report. 02:30.390 --> 02:36.450 Temple McKinnon: That was great, Steve. And when y'all give you reports later if you all decide that's a standard way to present information to the group 02:36.510 --> 02:38.460 Temple McKinnon: that would work. And we can post it on 02:38.460 --> 02:47.760 Temple McKinnon: our website. But I received a PDF document from Steve for the best practices committee and we've posted that under meeting materials on the website. 02:49.200 --> 02:49.470 Kelley Holcomb: And 02:51.270 --> 02:52.710 Kelley Holcomb: Just want to make sure I didn't miss anything. 02:53.940 --> 02:55.590 Suzanne Schwartz: And a reminder that materials 02:55.650 --> 03:06.540 Suzanne Schwartz: are posted on the website. And you'll probably want in front of you the minutes, the observations document that Template McKinnon did from the Water Development Board. 03:07.500 --> 03:17.100 Suzanne Schwartz: There is a committee report from best practices and interregional conflict work group report, and then the report outline. All those are available on the web for you. 03:18.900 --> 03:19.290 Suzanne Scott: Great. 03:20.340 --> 03:22.410 Suzanne Scott: So before we get started with the agenda then 03:23.250 --> 03:24.720 Suzanne Scott: we'll go through public comment. 03:24.900 --> 03:28.740 Suzanne Scott: Suzanne. Do you want to see if anyone has asked to speak. 03:28.950 --> 03:29.460 Suzanne Schwartz: Yes. 03:30.690 --> 03:34.230 Suzanne Schwartz: If anyone wants to speak, raise your hands or 03:34.800 --> 03:44.310 Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki is unmuting or letting everybody get to the point where they can indicate their desire to address the council. Anyone want to do that? 03:47.100 --> 03:53.310 Suzanne Schwartz: Either there's a raise hand button on the bottom or raise your hand if you're visually available. 03:54.450 --> 03:56.130 Suzanne Schwartz: Vicki, are you seeing anything? 03:57.240 --> 03:59.010 Vicki Read: I'm not and everyone is unmuted. 03:59.490 --> 04:01.860 Suzanne Schwartz: Okay, speak up if you want to talk 04:01.950 --> 04:03.930 Suzanne Schwartz: otherwise, we'll move on to the agenda. 04:05.790 --> 04:06.090 Suzanne Scott: Okay. 04:06.540 --> 04:19.080 Suzanne Scott: Okay, great. Thank you, Suzanne. The next item on the agenda is the consideration of the meeting minutes for the June 29 meeting. Has every, I assume everyone's had the opportunity to 04:20.250 --> 04:23.490 Suzanne Scott: go through that. There was a couple of edits here on the screen 04:26.550 --> 04:28.020 Suzanne Scott: that are being offered. 04:31.980 --> 04:32.700 Steve Walthour: Move we approve the minutes with 04:33.420 --> 04:34.470 Steve Walthour: these changes. 04:34.860 --> 04:36.510 Suzanne Scott: Thank you, Steve. Do we have a second? 04:36.750 --> 04:38.640 Gail Peek: I'll second. Gail Peek. 04:38.910 --> 04:39.750 Suzanne Scott: Gail. OK. 04:41.370 --> 04:49.110 Suzanne Scott: I will just ask if anyone's opposed, please let us know that by voicing your opposition. 04:51.750 --> 04:53.430 Suzanne Scott: Hearing no opposition. 04:54.600 --> 04:56.490 Suzanne Scott: We will consider this minutes approved. 04:58.050 --> 04:59.280 Suzanne Scott: All right. Thank you all very much. 05:00.510 --> 05:06.660 Suzanne Scott: So really what we want to focus on here is we want to get into some of the work that the committee have done. Again, I want to 05:07.650 --> 05:11.610 Suzanne Scott: really express my appreciation and I'm sure Kelley will join me in 05:12.180 --> 05:21.000 Suzanne Scott: our appreciation to the chairs of these committees. I know that you have had to do a quite a bit of work and continue to do work over the next couple of months. 05:21.300 --> 05:33.750 Suzanne Scott: We really appreciate your leadership and all the members of the committees that are having to attend all these committee meetings. I know it's above and beyond your regular work but we definitely appreciate it and know that it will be 05:33.780 --> 05:34.770 Suzanne Scott: for the benefit of 05:35.310 --> 05:36.540 reported for the state. 05:37.590 --> 05:42.750 Suzanne Scott: And what I would like to do at before we start the individual reports is 05:43.800 --> 05:46.800 Suzanne Scott: Temple's got a couple of things that I'd asked her to do. 05:48.030 --> 06:00.000 Suzanne Scott: She wants to go over kind of where some of all of this information, there's a lot of information that's being shared and she's been working on trying to organize that. 06:01.200 --> 06:05.760 Suzanne Scott: So she's going to talk a little bit about where those with the location of all those documents are. 06:06.300 --> 06:12.810 Suzanne Scott: And then I asked her, because the Water Development Board staff is really the continuity between all the committees, 06:13.260 --> 06:19.380 Suzanne Scott: I'd asked her to kind of pull together any just general observations that her staff has has 06:20.040 --> 06:30.510 Suzanne Scott: put forth to make sure that if there's any kind of duplication of effort or anything that's crossing, you know that the committees that we need to make sure that we can discuss today as well. 06:31.230 --> 06:38.580 Suzanne Scott: And then we're going to get into each of the committee reports. So we'll start with Temple and her reports and then we'll move into the committees. 06:39.900 --> 06:50.400 Temple McKinnon: Okay, thanks. Suzanne. I'm going to share my screen with our agency web page. Can you see that? The Interregional Planning Council page. Okay, great. 06:51.600 --> 07:00.240 Temple McKinnon: As Suzanne mentioned, you know, since we last met the committees have started their work and have been meeting very frequently. So I just wanted to orient 07:01.470 --> 07:16.830 Temple McKinnon: not only council members but members of the public that might be online here where you can find the information that's being produced. So this is the Interregional Planning Council page that has been in existence through the entirety of the Council. 07:18.300 --> 07:26.010 Temple McKinnon: I'll remind you, you know, we were we're keeping upcoming meetings posted here. So today here's January, I mean, July 29 meeting materials. 07:27.540 --> 07:34.800 Temple McKinnon: At this header here you can, it'll just take you down navigate you down the page. The past meetings where we have recordings of the Council meetings posted. 07:35.430 --> 07:43.050 Temple McKinnon: The Council working documents which are the documents y'all have been building to date and then resources. That was initially 07:43.860 --> 07:47.850 Temple McKinnon: information that we put up there. It's topical information 07:48.240 --> 07:59.010 Temple McKinnon: to issues that have since become committees under the Council, so there's enhancing interregional coordination, dealing with interregional conflict which is actually a work group, not a committee, 07:59.850 --> 08:11.130 Temple McKinnon: planning water resources for the state and general best practices. So these resources have been there. And we've been adding to those topics. I'm now going to scroll up to the top of 08:12.690 --> 08:25.710 Temple McKinnon: the Council page and right here, you can say information, you can see information on Council committees, click here. So it's on a separate page where we have the committee's work. And in a similar format we're posting 08:27.750 --> 08:28.680 Temple McKinnon: the committee 08:28.860 --> 08:29.760 meetings 08:31.590 --> 08:34.590 Temple McKinnon: with their agendas and meeting materials. 08:37.050 --> 08:49.110 Temple McKinnon: And we will be posting. So if you're looking for topical information on issues, you need to now go to the committee structure and the resources that are supporting those committees, I'll pull up 08:50.640 --> 09:05.310 Temple McKinnon: best practices for example. So we have past agendas past minutes, but we also have past meeting materials. So moving forward, if you're interested on what's getting cranked out to support best practices, you can go to the meeting materials packets 09:09.960 --> 09:13.230 Temple McKinnon: and find that information there. So, 09:16.380 --> 09:17.580 I think we've given 09:19.740 --> 09:23.580 Temple McKinnon: Yeah, so the slide shows that 09:25.050 --> 09:36.270 Temple McKinnon: exists and support those committee meetings. I'm sorry. Any. Those are the Minutes. Just corresponding to the agenda, you'll find such things as action plans. It's going to look different for each committee. 09:36.330 --> 09:39.420 Temple McKinnon: I know in planning water resources, we've provided you all with 09:39.870 --> 09:45.030 Temple McKinnon: an IBT map, for example. So as where it gets produced 09:45.090 --> 09:49.020 Temple McKinnon: we're just putting it with the materials, meeting materials for each committee. 09:49.320 --> 10:03.960 Temple McKinnon: As you all develop, I think you know each committee is going to talk about this in their reports. Y'all might have different ways that you're going about generating drafting content that will be housed here as well under your meeting materials. 10:05.610 --> 10:12.600 Temple McKinnon: And if there's any questions, if you're looking for information, you obviously can always contact your 10:14.460 --> 10:16.200 Temple McKinnon: TWDB support person. 10:17.610 --> 10:24.750 Temple McKinnon: Okay. So next I'm going to talk about sorry the observations document I just closed out of all of that. 10:26.730 --> 10:33.870 Temple McKinnon: Suzanne Scott had asked that we put together, it's just some observations of these Council 10:35.700 --> 10:37.800 Temple McKinnon: of these committee meetings. 10:38.880 --> 10:55.800 Temple McKinnon: Again, because our staff is supporting each of these committees, we're just trying to be mindful of any potential overlap in your discussions. Well, not so much your discussions. But as you're working towards developing recommendations. Can you see that and try to zoom it up a little bit. 10:58.590 --> 11:06.450 Temple McKinnon: So this is a material. This is the observations document that's part of your meeting materials for the Council meeting today. Can you see that okay? All right. 11:09.150 --> 11:18.060 Temple McKinnon: I've tried to attend as many committee meetings as I can from the discussions that I'm aware of that are forming towards what appears to be recommendations, 11:19.650 --> 11:20.970 Temple McKinnon: I'm seeing some 11:21.090 --> 11:22.410 Temple McKinnon: potential overlap 11:22.530 --> 11:37.770 Temple McKinnon: in discussions about project development opportunities and about the roles of liaisons. And this is primarily happening and the enhancing interregional coordination committee and the planning water resources committee. And for project development 11:39.240 --> 11:53.100 Temple McKinnon: in enhancing interregional coordination, Gail can talk about this little bit more. I know they're looking at the timing and who should be having those discussions. And in planning water resources. I'd also heard, who are the appropriate 11:54.720 --> 12:01.200 Temple McKinnon: folks, and when should they be getting together to talk about what lies ahead. So have awareness that 12:01.710 --> 12:12.990 Temple McKinnon: those discussions are happening in two separate forums. I've also heard discussions about liaisons. Who are the, who are the appropriate liaisons to be providing what information to planning groups, especially as it 12:14.550 --> 12:20.160 Temple McKinnon: surrounds project development opportunities. So I'll leave it at that and we can move on to 12:21.270 --> 12:21.870 Temple McKinnon: committee 12:22.290 --> 12:24.930 Temple McKinnon: reports, unless is there any questions, I'm happy 12:24.930 --> 12:25.230 Temple McKinnon: to 12:25.950 --> 12:27.690 Temple McKinnon: answer them if there are. 12:29.220 --> 12:39.810 Suzanne Scott: And we, she also on that document, the second page of it which we'll get to later, does did kind of put in one place all the problem statements and goal statements for each of the committee's 12:40.830 --> 12:44.070 Suzanne Scott: if you wanted to use that as a quick reference as we move into the 12:44.250 --> 12:45.900 Suzanne Scott: reports from the committees. 12:47.070 --> 12:55.110 Suzanne Scott: It may just be a help, a good reminder as to what they're tasked with because I know again we've got so much in front of us here. So I'm going to go 12:56.340 --> 13:06.720 Suzanne Scott: in the order that the that we listed on the agenda for the reports. So Mark, would you like to give your report? 13:07.230 --> 13:08.610 Mark Evans: Thank you, Madam Chair. 13:09.630 --> 13:13.980 Mark Evans: The committee on planning water resources for the state as a whole, I believe 13:15.030 --> 13:25.470 Mark Evans: we're making good progress. The committee has met twice, including yesterday and we have been focused on general, broad discussion and brainstorming. 13:26.850 --> 13:38.550 Mark Evans: We're meeting again next Thursday. And we will be refining our observations and recommendations in preparation for the IPC meeting on August 12. 13:40.230 --> 13:48.210 Mark Evans: No general sense of the number of recommendations we might be making to the IPC, 13:49.260 --> 13:56.550 Mark Evans: because, I mean, we may have we may be thinking right now that we have a recommendation, but it may just become an observation 13:56.970 --> 14:10.530 Mark Evans: for our final report. And the same is true, we may be making observations, thinking it will be an observation and at the end of the day, we may have it as a recommendation to the IPC and we discussed topics that may be needed 14:10.860 --> 14:11.250 Mark Evans: in our 14:11.940 --> 14:16.860 Mark Evans: report. But I do think it will be a low number when it comes to recommendations. 14:18.030 --> 14:19.950 Mark Evans: The committee is is good 14:19.980 --> 14:21.270 Mark Evans: with the problem statement 14:21.270 --> 14:21.780 Mark Evans: as 14:21.900 --> 14:23.070 Mark Evans: drafted by the Council. 14:24.240 --> 14:25.260 Mark Evans: I see 14:28.530 --> 14:38.520 Mark Evans: I see no problem in meeting the IPC timeline as we have committee meetings scheduled for August 20 and August 27th. 14:41.160 --> 14:43.050 Mark Evans: And that is my report Madam Chair. 14:44.850 --> 14:48.690 Suzanne Scott: Any questions for Mark at this point in time. 14:50.160 --> 14:55.920 Suzanne Scott: Regarding their charge, discussions that they've had based on their problem statement, anything that would anyone would like 14:57.240 --> 14:58.800 Suzanne Scott: to ask him or 14:59.190 --> 15:00.450 his committee at this point. 15:05.220 --> 15:08.100 Suzanne Scott: Okay, perfect. Thank you, Mark. 15:09.270 --> 15:11.880 Suzanne Scott: Looking forward to the recommendations of your committee. Mark Evans: Thank you. 15:13.560 --> 15:19.050 Suzanne Scott: And next, Gail. Are you ready for your report on ways to enhance interregional coordination. 15:19.530 --> 15:31.710 Gail Peek: I am, Madam Chair. But let me say I am green eyed and envious of Kelley's office area with all the books in the light window. And I think I'm gonna move over there. 15:36.270 --> 15:42.210 Kelley Holcomb: Well, I appreciate the comment. It only took me 29 years to get this office so. Gail Peek: Well hopefully you keep it for 29. 15:47.820 --> 15:50.790 Kelley Holcomb: I hope I retire way before then. But thank you. 15:53.160 --> 15:53.430 Gail Peek: Back out of your 15:53.760 --> 15:55.380 office and you have to be careful. 15:57.690 --> 16:13.530 Gail Peek: Madam Chair our committee had one meeting on June 15 and I would venture to say we had what might be called a lively discussion of issues with respect to the topics that were recommended. 16:14.340 --> 16:19.410 Gail Peek: We made some general progress in as Kelley said brainstorming. 16:22.260 --> 16:30.000 Gail Peek: And I think the main concerns resonated around the issue of 16:31.080 --> 16:44.100 Gail Peek: are we being efficient, are we using our resources, not just the resources to the regions, but also the resources available at the Texas Water Development Board. 16:45.600 --> 16:50.160 Gail Peek: And then we went into a discussion of how can we 16:50.700 --> 16:52.470 Gail Peek: work together. And what does it 16:52.470 --> 16:55.230 Gail Peek: mean for the coordination. 16:55.830 --> 16:57.360 Gail Peek: And I think the general 16:57.450 --> 17:09.090 Gail Peek: sense is that we want to find ways to be cooperative and collaborative in looking at ways that the regions can coordinate 17:10.350 --> 17:12.510 Gail Peek: their concerns whether it's 17:14.550 --> 17:24.060 Gail Peek: water management strategy, whether it's looking at potential joint efforts at funding through the state. 17:24.720 --> 17:32.430 Gail Peek: Whether they're regions that are along the border that may be have interests aligned with another another region. 17:33.150 --> 17:38.190 Gail Peek: We want to look at all those things. So we have a very multifaceted task ahead of us. 17:38.760 --> 17:50.430 Gail Peek: The other issue that became important was when we look at these issues we have to consider the questions of who the stakeholders are, who the sponsors are, who the liaisons are. 17:50.910 --> 18:02.280 Gail Peek: And also the scope of work committee and I think Temple was very helpful in looking at opportunities for early signaling. The sense of the 18:03.690 --> 18:13.800 Gail Peek: subcommittee that we have is that the we get into the process too late in the game to have an effective collaborative effort. 18:14.130 --> 18:26.400 Gail Peek: Because it goes so late in the process of planning that people get entrenched in their positions. And if we want an opportunity to look at coordination and collaboration, it must be earlier. 18:27.210 --> 18:41.880 Gail Peek: And so one of the ideas was to use the scope of work committee as a way of identifying strategies that might be cooperative opportunities and collaborative opportunities. 18:42.330 --> 18:56.580 Gail Peek: Using consultants who often bridge various regions to see if we can identify opportunities for coordination and collaboration and to use the liaisons because the liaisons, I think we all 18:57.360 --> 19:08.310 Gail Peek: in the committee agreed that liaisons are so overwhelmed with all the tasks that they have, by the time they get to the regional meetings it's more of a perfunctory 19:08.700 --> 19:19.470 Gail Peek: role and performance. There isn't much to say at the meeting or much to take away to their home meetings. So we want to find ways of using that group more effectively and efficiently 19:19.950 --> 19:27.030 Gail Peek: without overwhelming them with tasks, because I think I made the statement that we're all paid much lower than we're worth. 19:30.030 --> 19:35.700 Gail Peek: I think the goal is to for all of the committee members to know the resources that are available. 19:36.390 --> 19:49.110 Gail Peek: And to find ways to identify those collaborations early. That having been said, when we talk about collaboration early within the regions, we also are mindful of the timelines 19:49.470 --> 19:56.070 Gail Peek: for the Texas Water Development Board. And so one of the phrases I used was look at points of entry 19:56.460 --> 20:03.720 Gail Peek: for the regions to work with the Texas Water Development Board in the planning process to see if we can find those points. 20:04.050 --> 20:12.030 Gail Peek: And that was the gist of most of the discussion that we had. We are scheduled for another meeting on August 6 20:12.720 --> 20:25.620 Gail Peek: and we'll have a better sense of recommendations, if any, they may be observations and they may be recommendations. There wasn't a sense in the committee that there was a problem with the 20:26.190 --> 20:45.210 Gail Peek: goal statement or problem statement for the committee. We can work within those confines very easily. And we hope to have more for the Council to consider for it's August 12 meeting after our August 6 meeting. And that Madam Chair is my report. 20:45.780 --> 21:01.530 Suzanne Scott: Thank you. So between Mark and Gail in your the observations that Temple noted in her earlier presentation between the discussions that your two groups are having relative to project development issues and opportunities for earlier 21:02.130 --> 21:07.500 Suzanne Scott: coordination, as well as the roles of the liaison. Can we maybe discuss 21:08.820 --> 21:20.220 Suzanne Scott: to not have duplication maybe to refine what Mark's group would want to address as it relates to those or do we want to do we want to kind of 21:21.000 --> 21:30.240 Suzanne Scott: assign those two things out between the two of you so that we can target those recommendations in one area or the other. Do you have a comment, Mark? 21:30.720 --> 21:34.410 Mark Evans: I do and I'll say this, I believe 21:36.360 --> 21:46.290 Mark Evans: several members of our committee are on the in the meeting today. But as as far as liaisons, I think that was a topic that we did 21:46.860 --> 21:59.130 Mark Evans: discuss, bring up, but I myself and I'm just speaking as the, as a member of the committee, I really don't think that that would be a recommendation for our committee to make. 21:59.910 --> 22:18.090 Mark Evans: It might be an observation, perhaps, but I then out that I'd like to hear from the members of my committee if they disagree with that. But I think for purposes of our committee itself. I don't think the role of the liaison would be a recommendation we would make. 22:18.600 --> 22:22.020 Suzanne Scott: So maybe that could be something Gail's committee could look at potentially. 22:22.110 --> 22:23.790 Mark Evans: If they feel strongly about. Yes. 22:23.850 --> 22:24.570 Suzanne Scott: Yes, Melanie. 22:26.670 --> 22:29.640 Suzanne Scott: You're, you're muted Melanie, you're muted. 22:32.790 --> 22:34.080 Melanie Barnes: I am, sorry. 22:35.160 --> 22:50.340 Melanie Barnes: Um, I agree with Mark and I think from our perspective, we're talking about getting on projects way earlier, such as 50 year project 100 year projects, things like that. And maybe the liaisons 22:50.730 --> 23:09.480 Melanie Barnes: are the avenue through doing this, but we weren't we're really focusing on water projects for the state as a whole and not exactly who does it, just commenting that it needs to be done with the regions in mind, but as a bigger group probably. 23:09.810 --> 23:18.120 Melanie Barnes: So whatever the other group comes up with is probably the avenue to do it in. They're looking at more nuts and bolts of that part. 23:18.510 --> 23:26.310 Suzanne Scott: Okay, so maybe it looks like it Gail agrees, then the role of the liaison, the current role of the liaisons 23:27.270 --> 23:42.660 Suzanne Scott: What they do, what their role is can that be enhanced to promote earlier coordination identification of opportunities between regions Gail and her committee can address that under enhancing interregional coordination. 23:43.980 --> 23:54.510 Suzanne Scott: Gail, do you, are you okay with taking that on as one if there's going to be a recommendation that would fall within your committee to make a recommendation if so if you so choose to do that. 23:55.860 --> 24:04.830 Gail Peek: I think it will. And again, as Mark did, I would invite Jim to speak if he so chooses. But it strikes me that we are, and Melanie I like your 24:05.070 --> 24:18.960 Gail Peek: phrase, we are looking at the nuts and bolts of it. We aren't looking at the overall planning, per se, we're looking at what's a project and how we get it done and how can we use the scope of work, sponsors, 24:19.860 --> 24:33.300 Gail Peek: liaisons, as well as consultants in getting this done. So there may be a way for our committee to look at more specific tools to accomplish very defined goals. 24:34.230 --> 24:42.660 Suzanne Scott: All right, so I think that if we will leave that sort of liaison role thing with Gail's committee and then the issue of 24:43.920 --> 24:51.840 Suzanne Scott: the timing of projects relative to the entry points that Gail talked about, you know, the current process 24:53.670 --> 25:09.930 Suzanne Scott: I'm seeing I'm hearing from Mark and Gail that really your ideas in this area of Project Development seem to be going in a different path. It looks like Gail's is more like you saying the nuts and bolts of things that are being done today in the planning process. 25:11.760 --> 25:20.580 Suzanne Scott: More at a regional level and Mark and his committee seems to be looking more larger and kind of bigger 25:21.990 --> 25:33.870 Suzanne Scott: multi regional type of activities that may not necessarily exist today, but to to define a way that that can happen is, am I, am I getting the nuances between the differences here. 25:34.200 --> 25:36.780 Mark Evans: I think so, yeah myself, I think so. 25:37.170 --> 25:43.680 Suzanne Scott: So you may both address it. But Gail would be more in a 25:44.760 --> 25:45.780 Suzanne Scott: smaller, 25:47.640 --> 25:57.270 Suzanne Scott: current environment. Mark and his group is going to be maybe looking at, at a broader environment of planning that may not exist today. 25:57.720 --> 26:10.200 Gail Peek: Suzanne, I agree, and I guess one image that I would use is concentric circles. We are an internal concentric circle. Where Mark is a much broader concentric circle. 26:10.290 --> 26:17.490 Suzanne Scott: Okay, that makes sense. Any questions about that between the other Members here on the Council regarding the 26:19.110 --> 26:28.530 Suzanne Scott: the work of these two committees and how those two things that could be I think initially looked at as a conflict have now been better refined. Everyone okay with that approach. 26:31.350 --> 26:41.850 Suzanne Scott: Okay, I'm not hearing anything. Great. Alright, next then Steve. May we have your presentation, please from the general best practices. 26:43.200 --> 26:46.590 Steve Walthour: You have in your packet or was sent to you today my 26:47.670 --> 26:58.350 Steve Walthour: presentation. Essentially in the general progress we've had three meetings about five hours and 45 million minutes of face time. We've gone over the documents that are in the, that 26:59.190 --> 27:09.390 Steve Walthour: have been provided to us on the website and a couple things that our TW, our Texas Water Development Board staff has provided and I really do appreciate that. 27:11.610 --> 27:29.100 Steve Walthour: Right now the status or committee draft recommendations as we have eight topics that we're discussing and moving along on drafting. Those are simplified planning, membership engagement, Texas Water Development Board information dissemination to membership, 27:30.570 --> 27:38.760 Steve Walthour: ex officio member participation from other agencies, Texas Water Development Board funding and administrative planning 27:39.270 --> 27:51.480 Steve Walthour: costs, web based video conferencing platform. This would be a legislative authorization on the Open Meetings Act to allow some of the stuff we're doing now to be useful in the future. 27:51.930 --> 28:05.760 Steve Walthour: Regional water planning using guides and documents already prepared by the Water Development Board. And this is one of the things that Tomas on our committee, all of us have looked at, there's a boatload of information that 28:07.080 --> 28:14.100 Steve Walthour: the Water Development Board has and has out there available, but we're not paying attention to it. So we're looking at that. 28:14.550 --> 28:22.200 Steve Walthour: We need to figure out how get membership in that stuff. Regional water planning process improvement, that is basically 28:22.680 --> 28:27.600 Steve Walthour: how, you know, do the flow chart on regional water planning, if there's anything we can do there. 28:28.410 --> 28:43.020 Steve Walthour: General sense of number of recommendations we think that there will be around a eight topics. Those may be condensed. There are some of these that may have alternate recommendations, meaning if you do this, and you can avoid this, that kind of thing. 28:45.270 --> 28:46.980 Steve Walthour: Flexibility, I think the 28:48.930 --> 28:52.440 Steve Walthour: our committee can live within the lines of the 28:53.610 --> 29:06.720 Steve Walthour: problem and the goal that was set. However, I would recommend that as these committees work through the problems and start looking at data they have the ability to possibly propose an amendment 29:07.470 --> 29:21.090 Steve Walthour: to the process or the problem. Tentative timing report for prep, we have a meeting on August 6, at that time, we should have most all of our draft. 29:22.200 --> 29:33.120 Steve Walthour: Initial proposed draft stuff together in a format that we can hand it off to the Texas Water Development Board staff and we are looking at having 29:33.210 --> 29:36.660 Steve Walthour: a document back from staff on August 20. 29:37.890 --> 29:50.790 Steve Walthour: Hopefully at that time we'll feel good enough about it to send it on back to the Council, but we really are shooting, we're shooting for that day to finalize our report, but I would imagine we make August 27. 29:51.450 --> 29:59.520 Steve Walthour: The ultimate goal of the committee is that we don't meet in September, at least that's my goal. With that, that concludes my report. 30:03.180 --> 30:04.680 Steve Walthour: If y'all have any questions. 30:05.820 --> 30:07.560 Suzanne Scott: Any questions of Steve. 30:11.910 --> 30:12.240 Suzanne Scott: Good. 30:13.590 --> 30:21.870 Suzanne Scott: That looks very thorough and I think what we'll do here at the end of this is talk a little bit about the flexibility on some of these 30:22.830 --> 30:39.570 Suzanne Scott: these goals statements because I think with Suzanne Schwartz's presentation here in a minute, we may need to address this as it relates to the conflict issue. So I'm going to go ahead and let her give the report on the interregional conflict work working group that was established. 30:40.290 --> 30:52.140 Suzanne Schwartz: Thank you. Suzanne, we the interregional conflict working group had a call on July 20 and it was Kevin Ward and Jim Thompson are the members of the of the Council who are on it and then 30:52.950 --> 31:04.380 Suzanne Schwartz: Mark, Board staff, Suzanne Scott and I were also on that, Temple McKinnon and Matt Nelson, Suzanne and I were also on the call. And I want to start by emphasizing that 31:05.760 --> 31:14.640 Suzanne Schwartz: the group agreed that the when I say the group, but it's primarily I'm you know Jim, Kevin and Suzanne Scott also, was very active in the discussion. 31:16.830 --> 31:26.400 Suzanne Schwartz: We commented that basically it appeared that that at this point, that really is not a widespread problem relating to interregional conflict. That 31:27.000 --> 31:44.250 Suzanne Schwartz: there have been some, some specific situations, extenuating circumstances. And as you all know it's primarily been between Region C and D, which is why we recruited Jim and Kevin to that to be participants in this discussion. With that said, 31:45.660 --> 31:59.700 Suzanne Schwartz: the group came up with, I think, with some really interesting ideas. First of all, was that obviously a mechanism should be considered earlier in the planning cycle that would identify when a proposed strategy would 32:00.840 --> 32:08.130 Suzanne Schwartz: create a potential conflict because it would involve the use of a water resource in another region or otherwise impact 32:09.030 --> 32:18.990 Suzanne Schwartz: another region, at which point coordination should be ramped up a bit, so that they, the regions can try to work together to make sure they're in fact 32:19.410 --> 32:30.450 Suzanne Schwartz: that any kind of conflict is worked through the both regions can agree to the proposed strategy or work toward a goal of amending it in a way that they can both with with. 32:32.220 --> 32:36.510 Suzanne Schwartz: Realizing that obviously extenuating circumstances may exist. 32:37.380 --> 32:54.270 Suzanne Schwartz: That process would also identify when something needs to be ramped up and the group, the group thought that what would be really helpful at that time is to find a new process where stakeholders might perhaps be involved, something that would 32:55.350 --> 33:00.120 Suzanne Schwartz: bring together various representatives of the interests in the regions. 33:00.960 --> 33:09.960 Suzanne Schwartz: Finding ways for them to work together on joint studies using experts that they all trust so that you're not worrying over you know what the facts are. 33:10.440 --> 33:26.490 Suzanne Schwartz: Try to put all the parties on an equal footing in the discussions and ultimately allow allowing sufficient time and funding so that the the conflict could be worked through in a, in a way that the the involved regions can agree to. 33:28.080 --> 33:34.230 Suzanne Schwartz: For one, one little caveat, the group had was that just to make sure that any process that is recommended, 33:34.890 --> 33:47.580 Suzanne Schwartz: should be evaluated to confirm that it doesn't undermine what's currently an effective process. So don't don't get a process, don't institute a new process that's going to interfere with what works right now, for the most part. 33:48.420 --> 34:02.040 Suzanne Schwartz: And that said the group thought that this obviously this isn't material that comes back to the Council and thought it would be best perhaps initially considered by the enhancing interregional coordination committee. 34:03.150 --> 34:07.020 Suzanne Schwartz: Suzanne, Kevin, Jim. Anybody want to add anything to that. 34:10.770 --> 34:12.960 Suzanne Scott: Kevin? Jim? Anything? 34:15.390 --> 34:25.350 Jim Thompson: I would just, I mean, that was a good synopsis as far as I'm concerned of the meeting that took place and and what was discussed. So I'm certainly fine with that. 34:26.880 --> 34:34.620 Suzanne Scott: So I think that the, I mean, it seems like the concept here based on lessons learned from Jim and Kevin's experience that 34:35.970 --> 34:46.860 Suzanne Scott: and I think it's in line with what Gail was saying earlier, the idea of earlier in the process, the better and trying to find a mechanism by which that can occur. 34:47.430 --> 34:57.600 Suzanne Scott: And then as soon as it's identified trying to figure out, you know how there could be a process in place to try to see, you know, if there's a way to to to mitigate the conflict. 34:58.230 --> 35:14.010 Suzanne Scott: Or not. And that conflict could be, she said, either the use of the water or the impact of the project. It's not just about where the water is, but it's also ultimately the impact of the project that would need to be considered as part of this conflict definition. 35:15.480 --> 35:27.450 Suzanne Scott: So I guess, Gail. Would you be willing and your committee members be willing to take this on within your group to sort of talk about 35:28.530 --> 35:37.920 Suzanne Scott: not, not an individual conflict but a process about coordination that could hopefully identify and address conflict earlier on. 35:39.210 --> 35:46.440 Gail Peek: I think that's perfectly reasonable. I will say that our August 6 meeting I may come back with a different response. 35:49.890 --> 35:50.190 Suzanne Scott: And 35:50.250 --> 36:01.800 Suzanne Scott: you know, and I think this new process that that she also outlined that if there is a conflict that is identified that needs to be worked on, then we start that process earlier with the 36:02.250 --> 36:13.230 Suzanne Scott: with the maybe outside of the planning group. In other words it's it's coordinated through the planning group, but could be a side work that's being done through a stakeholder process, 36:13.650 --> 36:15.540 Suzanne Scott: earlier on, and that there if that's 36:15.600 --> 36:22.230 Suzanne Scott: going to be the case there would need to be some funding associated with that, as we know, and, and I think either Mark's group. I think maybe 36:22.320 --> 36:25.920 Suzanne Scott: Mark, or maybe Steve's group is sort of talked a little bit about 36:26.520 --> 36:36.420 Suzanne Scott: the amount of funding that's there for these processes. If you're going to add more into the mix, there's got to be some way to support it technically and financially. 36:38.010 --> 36:42.000 Suzanne Scott: So, Gail. That would be another thing y'all could think about from the coordination perspective. 36:43.440 --> 36:44.220 Gail Peek: Absolutely. 36:45.210 --> 36:46.980 Gail Peek: Money is the root of everything here. 36:47.430 --> 36:48.600 Suzanne Scott: Kevin, you had a question. 36:49.320 --> 36:54.000 Kevin Ward: Just say that it is key that we make put down some of the major points that we brought up 36:55.320 --> 37:04.830 Kevin Ward: In the context of that proposal, which is the people that are affected by this or that are in conflict, so to speak 37:06.060 --> 37:12.900 Kevin Ward: are the stakeholders and need, they're the ones that need to be brought together in some process, as described by Suzanne that 37:14.280 --> 37:27.510 Kevin Ward: folks will buy into this whatever the information is that's developed or evaluated in that process. And furthermore, for one ways a known conflict where a solution was kicking the can down the road, so to speak. 37:28.290 --> 37:28.680 Kevin Ward: That one can 37:28.740 --> 37:36.090 Kevin Ward: be addressed, you know, before you even finish penning that water plan. I mean you can get started on it real early. There's no reason to wait too long. 37:37.410 --> 37:47.130 Kevin Ward: You know, the legislature is getting handed a water plan that inherently there's a project or a strategy in it that we all know is one that's controversial in that 37:48.330 --> 37:56.820 Kevin Ward: have been a conflict in the past and something needs to be set in motion at that point in time to try to develop these innovative solutions to it. 37:57.300 --> 38:05.760 Kevin Ward: That getting buy in from the people that are in the conflict because otherwise it's not going to work. We've spent $6 million probably 38:06.570 --> 38:17.160 Kevin Ward: on the Region C project that's the conflict and yet that work is all for not because there's no ownership of it by Region D and so 38:17.880 --> 38:28.800 Kevin Ward: that's, that's kind of some of those those points have to get caught up in there. So I would suggest that we can be, both Jim and I can both be consultants to Gail's group 38:29.310 --> 38:41.760 Kevin Ward: when they need us to give them more understanding as to what's really happened and not happened. Because if you really haven't gone through it, you don't know all the work that's been done. I think your eyes were opened too, Suzanne Scott, when you listened to it. 38:43.230 --> 38:49.170 Kevin Ward: No one has any idea what it's all been done. From the outside looking in, it doesn't appear that much has been done, but oh, believe me Jim and 38:50.250 --> 39:04.830 Kevin Ward: I have that many conversations and sometimes lively, but mostly most all the time cordial and yet we've not been able to find a way with all the parties affected, to come up with a solution that's going to stand the test of time. 39:07.710 --> 39:14.670 Suzanne Scott: Yeah, and I think that became evident that I mean again. The earlier, the better and getting the people engaged sooner. 39:15.000 --> 39:29.070 Suzanne Scott: It doesn't mean you're necessarily going to solve it. But you're going to at least have a process maybe that could determine what would need to be done as the strategy was moving forward. And what would be the parameters that the stakeholders could work in. 39:30.420 --> 39:37.710 Suzanne Scott: So, this did was this document posted. I can't remember the one that you did Suzanne. It was on, it was with the meeting materials so we can 39:38.610 --> 39:48.000 Suzanne Scott: Gail you'll at least have a framework for you know what the conversations were but this information was posted and could be considered by your committee. 39:48.330 --> 39:49.530 Gail Peek: So yes, and I would 39:49.740 --> 39:57.900 Gail Peek: I would say, Suzanne, one of the most important takeaways that I got from Kevin's comment was, we have to look at the durability 39:58.350 --> 39:58.680 Gail Peek: of 39:58.830 --> 40:11.400 Gail Peek: the proposed in quotes solution or approach. If it's only going to work for one planning cycle, I suspect it won't be a viable option that would help 40:12.060 --> 40:23.010 Gail Peek: Mark's group. We've got to look at your ability. We've got to look at something that can stand the test of time and isn't wedded to any unique position, it has to be a more 40:25.110 --> 40:33.480 Gail Peek: balanced and inclusive approach. And Kevin is that, am I, is my takeaway kind of what you were talking about. 40:34.140 --> 40:48.630 Kevin Ward: Yeah and you know some of the things that come to mind is that it may take we talked about funding. Funding to to balance out the need. You know the water planning process inherently goes to the least cost alternatives. 40:49.350 --> 41:04.380 Kevin Ward: And when you're talking about large strategies when you need when you need 2 to 300,000 acre foot of water to fill a void for 20 years or 30 years within one region those larger projects are the ones that are going to have those controversies and 41:05.760 --> 41:22.140 Kevin Ward: so if you want to try to come up with another strategy or try to influence the the water purveyors that are actually going to construct these projects to go back to their boards and their governing bodies and tell them we got to do something more expensive, 41:23.640 --> 41:38.160 Kevin Ward: you don't want to go hat in hand. You really want to go with some backup of of some incentives to try to get them to consider these alternatives, because reason why does alternative don't get selected anyway is because sometimes they're 41:39.300 --> 41:50.640 Kevin Ward: two, three times as expensive or they involve future unknowns that are that are risky to someone who's willing to share in that risk. And it helped develop those alternatives and 41:52.380 --> 42:03.360 Kevin Ward: evaluate them. Then perhaps a long term solution could be brought out of that and we see how that kind of dovetails into what we were looking at which is planning for the state as a whole. 42:04.020 --> 42:11.940 Kevin Ward: But nonetheless, I think it really doesn't belong it we're going to do something in the planning process right now to resolve this issue. 42:12.390 --> 42:19.200 Kevin Ward: And I don't think we're going to be the only conflict in the long run. I think as the other regions have to reach further the ones that have populations. 42:19.710 --> 42:29.490 Kevin Ward: Have to reach further or consider higher cost alternatives against least cost alternatives, you're going to see some concern. It's always been there. 42:31.380 --> 42:41.670 Kevin Ward: I was at the Water Board a long time. I still follow what they're doing right now and I've seen them crop up and some go away temporarily, but they come back. One of these days when 42:43.200 --> 42:49.380 Kevin Ward: Houston's going to reach out probably to the East to try to get water and at that point in time, it's going to come down to 42:50.490 --> 43:01.260 Kevin Ward: the same kind of issues we've seen between Dallas reaching over there, which is that there's a tendency from the water, the folks like ourselves that develop order tend to want to own it. 43:02.520 --> 43:07.290 Kevin Ward: But there's a stronger tendency in the basins of origin and places where it comes from, for them to own it. 43:09.090 --> 43:11.730 Kevin Ward: And and those kind of fights will come up 43:11.910 --> 43:12.660 Kevin Ward: over time, 43:13.140 --> 43:27.960 Kevin Ward: You're going to have to if we're going to try to provide these needs going forward, we do really need to have a more robust process that's inclusive and I think it goes down to the planning group, probably not the venue for that because it can consume the planning group. 43:28.080 --> 43:28.410 Suzanne Scott: Right. 43:29.370 --> 43:35.430 Kevin Ward: It takes away their focus from what they're trying to do with all of the individual components within their plan. 43:37.050 --> 43:46.050 Suzanne Scott: But it would need to be, you know, sort of an offshoot of that and then fed back into the planning group as they're finalizing their plan. So, Gail, it seems to me that 43:47.220 --> 44:00.060 Suzanne Scott: with that, I'm not hearing any opposition for you to assume this in your committee. So I would suggest that when your committee regroups and maybe Suzanne Schwartz can give give you some 44:00.660 --> 44:11.280 Suzanne Scott: guidance on this that the the problem statement and the goal statement that was related to conflict, we may want to incorporate somewhere, not 44:11.880 --> 44:23.790 Suzanne Scott: somewhere in your goal statement about addressing it. When we get to talk about the outline, I think that in the spirit of being responsive to Chairman Larson's 44:24.600 --> 44:34.920 Suzanne Scott: letter, we may want to have a write up on conflict sort of separately to be responsive to him, but I think it could be, it can be 44:36.150 --> 44:41.190 Suzanne Scott: kind of generally discussed as part of your overall work. So 44:41.250 --> 44:48.600 Gail Peek: It, it sounds like what you're describing, and let me just say, Kevin, thank you so much for your comments. It's very helpful and 44:50.250 --> 44:58.560 Gail Peek: it's something (inaudible) So, and sometimes I use humor, so I apologize to everyone, but you were warning us about what might be called the zombie effect or the 44:59.010 --> 45:04.080 Gail Peek: or the vampire effect when things get, you know, get staked in the heart that keep popping up 45:04.500 --> 45:17.280 Gail Peek: and ruining and raining on your parade every once in a while. So you need to keep that in mind, which I translate into sometimes the political dynamics we cannot ever lose sight of the political dynamics that affect 45:17.760 --> 45:37.380 Gail Peek: everyone at the decision line. And along your lines, Suzanne, it would be, it strikes me that what you would have is a committee report, and then you would have a an exhibit that is incorporated into it and that exhibit would deal with the specific conflict so that you don't have the 45:38.880 --> 45:51.630 Gail Peek: detailed comment in the face of the committee assignment, but that addendum and that exhibit with speak for itself and address Chairman Larson's concerns. 45:52.680 --> 46:00.600 Suzanne Scott: Okay. We can, as we get to the outline here, we can talk about that a little bit more. I suspect there will have to be some conversation of in the meat of the report in there could be an 46:01.080 --> 46:11.700 Suzanne Scott: attachment or an exhibit that has more detail, like you're saying, but I do think as people are going to be reading the report you know how people don't tend to get to the exhibit sometimes. 46:12.360 --> 46:27.120 Suzanne Scott: So, but I agree with you on that. Okay. So, any other comments regarding the activities of the committees, the reassignment of this issue any of the you know the two areas of potential overlap. Yes, Melanie. 46:29.220 --> 46:38.250 Melanie Barnes: I would just make one observation, after listening to all of you talk, it seems like every single committee is coming up with 46:40.770 --> 46:50.280 Melanie Barnes: all of these issues, whether we're looking 50 years, 100 years down the road or whether we're dealing with something we're trying to put in the present plan. Every single one of them is said we need a mechanism 46:50.910 --> 47:00.180 Melanie Barnes: where the regions are talking to each other earlier. And it has to be a mechanism that the Texas Water Development Board and the legislation allows us to do. 47:01.260 --> 47:05.490 Melanie Barnes: And then, there also has to be the consideration that some of the 47:06.540 --> 47:18.360 Melanie Barnes: things we decide to spend money on to investigate that might be between revisions rather just a scope that only affects one region. And those are the big picture things that I've seen. I'm done. 47:20.460 --> 47:21.150 Suzanne Scott: I agree with you. 47:22.500 --> 47:37.440 Suzanne Scott: And I think it would really be a lot in how each of the two committees differentiate those as to how they wouldn't overlap, they could compliment from one committee to the other. You feel that Mark you can 47:38.490 --> 47:42.000 Suzanne Scott: address these complimentary not in in overlap. 47:44.100 --> 47:45.090 Mark Evans: Yes, I think we can. 47:46.320 --> 47:46.590 Suzanne Scott: Okay. Great. 47:47.790 --> 47:48.630 Mark Evans: Another one, 47:49.950 --> 48:07.560 Mark Evans: one recommendation that I'm reasonably sure that we will finalize on Thursday will be to recommend a specific funded task in the regional planning process for 48:08.730 --> 48:13.440 Mark Evans: the regional groups consultants to do long range planning 48:14.700 --> 48:21.870 Mark Evans: and kind of a big picture type of look at some of these type of projects, it would be visionary. I think you could say. 48:23.160 --> 48:28.290 Mark Evans: So I just want to mention that since we've had kind of a discussion about overlap. I wanted t get that out there. 48:29.190 --> 48:34.170 Suzanne Scott: Any other comments on these reports from anybody. 48:38.940 --> 48:41.580 Suzanne Scott: So getting back to Steve's request on 48:42.840 --> 48:50.430 Suzanne Scott: whether or not the committees have some, the subcommittees have some flexibility on the problem statements. 48:51.390 --> 48:58.800 Suzanne Scott: I would think unless there's opposition here that you have flexibility. If you want to tweak some of the wording. 48:59.250 --> 49:05.820 Suzanne Scott: But I would suggest, if you're going to make changes that you sort of bring that back to the Council as a whole. 49:06.210 --> 49:15.360 Suzanne Scott: With maybe a track changes sort of format so we can understand the recommendations of the changes since those particular statements have been already adopted 49:16.200 --> 49:26.550 Suzanne Scott: by the Council. We would want to know specifically what modifications were being made and that those could be then adopted again by the Council. 49:27.150 --> 49:37.650 Suzanne Scott: So unless I hear any opposition to that I say you have flexibility for some word smithing without any major rewrites if that meets everybody's desire. 49:41.640 --> 49:44.070 Suzanne Scott: Okay not hearing any objections to that. 49:45.840 --> 49:49.890 Suzanne Scott: Alright, the next thing we wanted to talk about is 49:52.710 --> 49:57.060 Suzanne Scott: the process, the schedule. Do you have a slide on that Temple? 49:58.950 --> 50:07.530 Suzanne Scott: Okay, so when Kelley and I were meeting with Temple in the group kind of planning for this meeting, we sort of wanted to we've kind of talked about how to 50:08.310 --> 50:20.460 Suzanne Scott: you know, eat this elephant over the, over the next few meetings that we have. And I think Steve did a good job trying to outline kind of his process. And I know Mark has done the same thing. So one thing 50:22.200 --> 50:29.730 Suzanne Scott: Kelley and I discussed is kind of how we could break up some of these recommendations. So our concern is 50:30.210 --> 50:41.070 Suzanne Scott: that we don't want a committee to go all the way through their process, come up with a recommendation, have it all written, ready to report, you know, give a final report to the group 50:41.430 --> 50:45.900 Suzanne Scott: and then there's some opposition by the Council of the 50:46.410 --> 50:57.990 Suzanne Scott: recommendation. And we're sort of spending time going backwards to the the work that the committee was doing relative to the recommendations. We don't want to leave that all the way to the end. So 50:58.830 --> 51:09.450 Suzanne Scott: what we were thinking about and I would appreciate Kelley's chiming in here, is maybe breaking up the recommendations over the next two meetings. 51:09.960 --> 51:12.060 Suzanne Scott: And we're not telling you, suggesting to 51:12.060 --> 51:15.120 Suzanne Scott: you who does what, or it depends on what committee is ready 51:16.140 --> 51:22.680 Suzanne Scott: that we get some initial recommendations at the next meeting from whoever's ready to submit. They don't have to be flushed out. 51:23.070 --> 51:36.390 Suzanne Scott: They can simply be this is our initial recommendation, maybe some a succinct justification and a benefit, just to get a buy off so that before you go back and start flushing it out, doing the narrative, working it through, 51:36.960 --> 51:42.780 Suzanne Scott: you've got some sort of consensus that everyone's behind that so that your work can proceed. 51:43.200 --> 51:48.030 Suzanne Scott: If there's some problems, I'd rather hear earlier. And so if we did that in the next two meetings 51:48.540 --> 52:06.840 Suzanne Scott: then hopefully we can have generally the recommendations flushed out so that, but by the time that the committees come to the 30th those committees, those recommendations have already been flushed out a little bit and can be further refined Kelley, I'd like for your state, your comments. 52:08.250 --> 52:17.850 Kelley Holcomb: Oh, I'm not sure what to say. Suzanne. You did such a good job covering it. Other than I think and I won't speak for Steve 52:18.690 --> 52:31.230 Kelley Holcomb: Walthour, chair of the committee, but I think that the that committee, our committee is probably in the lead to be able to do this on the 12th of August. I know that we discussed some timelines and 52:32.340 --> 52:36.780 Kelley Holcomb: with regard to our the committee structure and the production of documents associated with that. 52:37.860 --> 52:51.660 Kelley Holcomb: I'll let him take the lead on that one, but I know that we're focused on doing that very thing trying to provide documentation as excuse me recommendations as early as we can so that we can get those approved and in Q4 final 52:52.770 --> 52:56.550 Kelley Holcomb: final reporting out of the committee itself. Steve, you have any comments. 52:57.660 --> 52:58.380 Steve Walthour: We can do that. 53:00.000 --> 53:01.620 Steve Walthour: We'll be set by the 12th. 53:02.070 --> 53:03.390 Steve Walthour: to do 53:03.510 --> 53:04.860 Steve Walthour: what you want there. 53:05.310 --> 53:18.540 Suzanne Scott: Great. It doesn't have to be a long. I mean, you don't have to have your, you know, multi page thing. It's really more just about this is what we're thinking this is why. And so then you can flush it out more in the committee with the endorsement of the Council. 53:19.740 --> 53:27.300 Kelley Holcomb: Suzanne, I would I would I would ask the question, I mean when Steve produced the report for the today's meeting, 53:27.780 --> 53:44.100 Kelley Holcomb: we kind of had some of that in mind at least, informally anyway. Is that a general sense of the outline that you're looking for from the committee, at least in terms of vetting the concepts of the recommendations, we're talking about. Or do you want us to start working towards that outline 53:45.210 --> 53:45.900 Kelley Holcomb: format. 53:47.100 --> 53:54.000 Suzanne Scott: Well, like for example on simplified planning, if there's a specific recommendation that 53:54.150 --> 53:55.890 Suzanne Scott: that you're having relative to 53:56.040 --> 53:57.270 Suzanne Scott: simplified planning, 53:59.010 --> 54:14.760 Suzanne Scott: that would either that would fall into a recommendation for the Water Development Board, or recommendation for the legislature, recommendation for the planning group or a future Council. You would say this is our recommendation, this is why, this is the benefit. 54:15.780 --> 54:19.350 Suzanne Scott: And and it would be outlined at a very high level like that. 54:20.550 --> 54:21.750 Suzanne Scott: Versus having 54:22.290 --> 54:31.830 Suzanne Scott: versus, you know, having to have the entire narrative or your justification or your observations or anything like that. I'm hoping that we could just, it would be 54:32.010 --> 54:33.030 Suzanne Scott: kind of top level. 54:34.860 --> 54:35.370 Suzanne Scott: Yes, Steve. 54:36.510 --> 54:37.290 Steve Walthour: We can do that. 54:37.650 --> 54:37.980 Suzanne Scott: Okay. 54:39.330 --> 54:39.630 Great. 54:40.980 --> 54:46.200 Suzanne Scott: How about Mark or Gail. I'm not suggesting that you have to have yours by the 12th. If you have a few of them 54:46.440 --> 54:47.850 Suzanne Scott: vetted by the 12th you 54:48.120 --> 54:48.450 Suzanne Scott: you could 54:48.480 --> 54:50.310 Suzanne Scott: bring some of them forward and then you can 54:50.400 --> 54:57.660 Suzanne Scott: bring the rest of them forward on the 15th. Everything doesn't have to be on the 12th, just if you have something that you have already agreed on 54:58.200 --> 54:59.280 Suzanne Scott: you can bring it forward. 54:59.790 --> 55:04.110 Mark Evans: Madam Chair, we are planning on having something for the IPC on the 12 so 55:04.170 --> 55:04.770 Suzanne Scott: Okay, great. 55:05.730 --> 55:06.420 Mark Evans: It may be 55:07.710 --> 55:12.210 Mark Evans: several recommendations, we'll just see, but we we do plan on 55:13.290 --> 55:13.980 Mark Evans: having some information ready, 55:14.760 --> 55:16.440 Mark Evans: ready for you. Suzanne Scott: Great. 55:17.130 --> 55:20.160 Gail Peek: Hello. And I would say that we planned the meeting on August 6th, 55:20.310 --> 55:21.720 Gail Peek: with the idea of 55:21.900 --> 55:32.850 Gail Peek: presenting either recommendations or observations. I think vetting those and ferreting these points out, and then finding out if they're lead balloons, or if they have helium in them. 55:33.180 --> 55:34.200 Gail Peek: It's very, very helpful. 55:34.200 --> 55:35.550 Gail Peek: So I appreciate the schedule. 55:35.790 --> 55:45.480 Suzanne Scott: Okay, good. So if we're kind of all on board with that, then your Water Development Board staff will help kind of craft these I think that 55:46.380 --> 55:55.950 Suzanne Scott: Temple was discussing maybe coming up with a kind of a format. Maybe that would it be helpful, some continuity, so that as we're looking at these between the three committees, 55:56.820 --> 56:05.310 Suzanne Scott: they would be in some sort of format that would be easy to digest by the Council as a whole. So I think Temple is 56:06.510 --> 56:08.670 Suzanne Scott: that still something that you're thinking about correct. 56:10.440 --> 56:10.770 Temple McKinnon: Correct. 56:13.920 --> 56:26.340 Temple McKinnon: Yeah, my understanding is, you're going to get it. And we were gonna to the board and the last two weeks before the due date and we could definitely work on the voice and the content. Are you asking me something outside of the 56:26.550 --> 56:27.000 Suzanne Scott: I was just 56:27.270 --> 56:32.670 Suzanne Scott: saying, as these recommendations come forward for this initial vetting on the 12th and the 15th, 56:33.000 --> 56:35.520 Suzanne Scott: I think it would be good to give the 56:35.850 --> 56:42.450 Suzanne Scott: Committee Chairs some type of format that there's some continuity and how those are brought forward so that 56:42.840 --> 56:54.390 Suzanne Scott: you know as the Council's looking at them, they're not having to go through different formats or, you know, there's some continuity that could be helpful as we vet these and it will be easier to review. 56:54.420 --> 56:55.590 Temple McKinnon: Yeah. You bet, we can totally do that. 56:55.890 --> 56:58.980 Suzanne Scott: Again succinct something that we can go through pretty quickly. 57:00.060 --> 57:01.650 Suzanne Scott: As they as they present 57:02.700 --> 57:11.520 Suzanne Scott: Okay, okay. All right, great. Well, I think that'll help everybody and maybe we'll be able to, to ensure that the work that the committee is doing 57:11.880 --> 57:21.360 Suzanne Scott: is not going to be, you know, hit a brick wall when it gets to the Council. The Council will understand what you're working on, and is endorsed it and then you can move forward and 57:22.500 --> 57:23.550 Suzanne Scott: finalize those. 57:24.690 --> 57:35.880 Suzanne Scott: The next thing we wanted to go over was the outline for the report and I know you've all seen this in your various committees. 57:37.980 --> 57:52.080 Suzanne Scott: Just wanted to see it as y'all looked at it. Has there been any questions, comments, concerns about this general outline for the report that we're all putting together. 57:54.210 --> 58:01.410 Mark Evans: Speaking for our committee,we didn't have any concerns that I that I recall from our meeting yesterday. I think everybody understood it quite well. 58:04.470 --> 58:06.840 Suzanne Scott: Steve in your, any comments from your 58:09.120 --> 58:19.800 Steve Walthour: We actually used the this outline generally to outline each of the little problems that we identified topics and 58:21.510 --> 58:31.860 Steve Walthour: we're going to continue to do that internally in our committee to hand off to the Water Development Board staff. My biggest concern is that the staff, the 58:32.970 --> 58:46.680 Steve Walthour: Board staff knows and understands what the, what the outlines going to look like for the product at the end and the set if if there is an example that we need to follow, I need to know what by the 6th. 58:48.180 --> 59:00.660 Steve Walthour: Were really planning on trying to get this thing done before September and my bunch has met to try to take care of that. That's really my only concern. 59:02.550 --> 59:06.660 Suzanne Scott: So you mean like a template for the actual report or because, I mean, 59:07.470 --> 59:21.450 Steve Walthour: Well, for example, you see this review existing practices conditions Council, is that going to be all under one topic. All of our, you know, under, is that a number one for the entire group of 59:22.500 --> 59:35.820 Steve Walthour: you know, our number two, the problem statement, the entire you know the entire eight problems that we have or do I need to, or do we need to somehow put that together into one problem statement. 59:37.320 --> 59:42.030 Suzanne Scott: Well, you have the adopted problem statements that we've all that we've adopted here. 59:43.560 --> 59:49.320 Suzanne Scott: So that's kind of what I was we were thinking about with the problem and the goal statement that that sort of 59:53.520 --> 59:55.470 Suzanne Scott: guided your work as a committee. 59:56.580 --> 59:57.090 Suzanne Scott: Now 59:57.210 --> 59:57.780 you're 59:59.760 --> 01:00:07.500 Suzanne Scott: I see what your point is about the review of existing practices or conditions. In other words, those would quote be your observations, if 01:00:08.250 --> 01:00:11.520 Suzanne Scott: if you're wanting to make observations on each of the 01:00:12.870 --> 01:00:13.200 Suzanne Scott: eight 01:00:15.060 --> 01:00:17.370 Suzanne Scott: areas that you have identified 01:00:18.540 --> 01:00:22.110 Suzanne Scott: that would, I could see that we have a modification to this 01:00:22.140 --> 01:00:22.770 outline. 01:00:25.470 --> 01:00:26.130 Suzanne Scott: So, 01:00:26.160 --> 01:00:37.650 Kelley Holcomb: Suzanne, this is, this is Kelley. Wouldn't it be just a sub heading a sub text concept with regard to, you know, C.1. for example and C.4. 01:00:39.660 --> 01:00:40.860 Kelley Holcomb: You could look at the existing 01:00:40.860 --> 01:00:55.710 Kelley Holcomb: practices and, you know, with a three or four, paragraph type concept and then come back with recommendations that are very detailed like the eight that we've outlined here in the in the committee's work product. Suzanne Scott: So maybe number four needs to be 01:00:55.740 --> 01:00:59.970 Suzanne Scott: observations slash recommendations that way if they did want to 01:01:00.540 --> 01:01:06.000 Suzanne Scott: highlight particular observations about any one of the areas that they're recommending 01:01:08.190 --> 01:01:11.640 Suzanne Scott: that would give you the opportunity to sort of say, all right, here's the 01:01:12.690 --> 01:01:28.740 Suzanne Scott: observation that we had relative to simplified planning. Here's our recommendation. This is the benefit that we think would come from it. I saw something that I think it may be was, was it Tomas to send something I saw that was sent that kind of had that laid out a little bit. 01:01:30.750 --> 01:01:31.950 Melanie Barnes: Suzanne. 01:01:31.980 --> 01:01:36.210 Melanie Barnes: This is Melanie. Suzanne, seems like we're the committee's are working on number four. 01:01:38.070 --> 01:01:41.760 Suzanne Scott: Yes. Melanie Barnes: Recommendations versus observations and who it applies to. 01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:45.570 Suzanne Scott: Well, I mean, 01:01:45.630 --> 01:01:48.120 Suzanne Scott: your recommendation will have to be targeted to 01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:49.980 Suzanne Scott: somebody, whether it's 01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:56.790 Suzanne Scott: this is what I want the Water Development Board do we think the legislature need to take an action or we think regional water planning groups need to do something. 01:01:58.260 --> 01:02:00.630 Suzanne Scott: So you will act to target it 01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:05.070 Melanie Barnes: But it does seem like what we've been working on is number four. 01:02:05.070 --> 01:02:07.170 Melanie Barnes: And not really the other 01:02:07.200 --> 01:02:12.180 Melanie Barnes: things, because we did two and three in in Council, in group already. 01:02:12.600 --> 01:02:17.760 Suzanne Scott: You're working on really number one and number four. And I think what I'm getting from Steve is maybe 01:02:19.290 --> 01:02:22.770 Suzanne Scott: are you suggesting Steve that your number one 01:02:24.390 --> 01:02:33.570 Suzanne Scott: would not be one general area of observation, you're potentially going to have some of that under the narrative of each of your recommendations. Is that what you're suggesting. 01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:42.450 Steve Walthour: I think one and four are going to go together. You've already told us what our problem statement is and what our goal statement. Yes, that's one and two, 01:02:43.500 --> 01:02:48.840 Steve Walthour: That should be one and two and then one and four should be together. I don't know why you would 01:02:49.710 --> 01:03:03.780 Steve Walthour: talk about the existing practices and then talk about the problem statements, since the Council's already laid the problem statement out. And then the goal statements already been and whatever we put together should address those two issues. 01:03:03.930 --> 01:03:04.320 Suzanne Scott: Okay. 01:03:05.340 --> 01:03:12.510 Suzanne Scott: And I guess in our original thought and you're giving us a different perspective, which I appreciate. I didn't know if to the reader 01:03:13.140 --> 01:03:27.120 Suzanne Scott: of this document, they would need some background as to how we came to the problem statement. In other words, some of the deliberations about, you know, the how did we get to a problem statement that said what it says here. 01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:41.430 Suzanne Scott: That's why we thought maybe some intro to the issue then to say you summarized all that down to this is the problem statement that we see based on these sort of big picture observations. 01:03:42.900 --> 01:03:49.380 Suzanne Scott: To the reader, again. We did a lot of deliberation as a Council before we came to that problem statement. 01:03:50.730 --> 01:03:52.680 Suzanne Scott: Based on our experiences and knowledge. 01:03:53.730 --> 01:03:55.410 Kelley Holcomb: Yeah, Suzanne, if you don't mind, I'll add a 01:03:55.410 --> 01:04:04.800 Kelley Holcomb: little bit. I mean, I think that it's a generalized statement under item number one, a generalized statement on the observations of whatever the committee is working on. 01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:17.070 Kelley Holcomb: And then when you get to item number four, then it, it is a detailed set of review and recommendation associated with, you know, we've got a pretty good list of items here. 01:04:19.020 --> 01:04:28.440 Kelley Holcomb: So I don't know that, I mean, you could combine one and four sure, but I'm with you, I mean, looking at the reader, the ultimate target for this document, 01:04:28.830 --> 01:04:36.870 Kelley Holcomb: you almost, you have to have a flow to it. I would think to here's generally what we found. Here's what the problem is, once we began looking. 01:04:37.380 --> 01:04:50.010 Kelley Holcomb: And here was our goal to solve. And then here are some very specific targeted things that that target one of those groups you know Board, Leg, Water Development Board, planning groups and so forth. 01:04:51.540 --> 01:05:01.140 Kelley Holcomb: I don't know if that lends anything to the conversation, but to me it laid it out in a uniform standard, you know, step one, step two process. 01:05:01.170 --> 01:05:03.900 Mark Evans: Well Kelley. This is Mark. I would say that you 01:05:03.900 --> 01:05:04.440 did 01:05:06.030 --> 01:05:20.370 Mark Evans: hit on something when you want to use the word flow. And I think that's important with any report that you do that for the reader, there is flow to the report, and I think he laid it out real well. And I think that's, I think that's important. 01:05:22.200 --> 01:05:24.210 Suzanne Schwartz: Kevin Ward wants to say something. 01:05:24.270 --> 01:05:26.190 Suzanne Scott: Oh, I'm sorry. I can't see any hands. Thank you. 01:05:26.490 --> 01:05:33.810 Kevin Ward: So we, we talked about that Mark as you know yesterday for just a short while, about how 01:05:35.940 --> 01:05:48.120 Kevin Ward: maybe, but now, listening to Kelley I can kind of add to it. We talked about how you couldn't talk about the recommendations without kind of describing for each of the individual recommendations, what the specific 01:05:49.170 --> 01:05:55.170 Kevin Ward: issue is you're trying to resolve. You know what you're you're trying to affect and change in order to improve things. 01:05:55.860 --> 01:06:05.190 Kevin Ward: But I, I hear Suzanne and Kelley loud and clear that the thought processes before you can have a problem statement, you have to write something up that kind of gives the general 01:06:05.910 --> 01:06:19.740 Kevin Ward: impression of what the way the conditions are, in general, in order to come up with the overall problem statement and then what the goal is. And then perhaps we just need to recognize it and recommendations, maybe it needs to be 01:06:22.080 --> 01:06:28.440 Kevin Ward: observations, recommendations, you know, at a finite level in item number four to hit on what Steve was saying. 01:06:28.890 --> 01:06:37.200 Kevin Ward: We kind of talked a little bit about that. But we all agreed we didn't really want to change the outline and make a recommendation with the outline, at least on our committee, we did yesterday. 01:06:39.180 --> 01:06:47.850 Suzanne Scott: Well, I think it's, it seems like you're making some good points that maybe that number four needs to kind of give you some leeway to each of your recommendations, you could have a little bit of 01:06:48.420 --> 01:06:55.980 Suzanne Scott: narrative or about an observation that would inform that recommendation. And I think that is completely needed really. 01:06:58.200 --> 01:06:58.590 Suzanne Scott: So, 01:07:00.420 --> 01:07:02.580 Suzanne Scott: Steve. Does that seem to address your 01:07:03.630 --> 01:07:04.440 Suzanne Scott: your approach. 01:07:06.720 --> 01:07:08.580 Steve Walthour: Yeah, that'll work. We can do that. Suzanne Scott: OK. 01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:12.660 Gail Peek: This is Gail. One 01:07:13.770 --> 01:07:35.730 Gail Peek: housekeeping issue, given how we've talked about the purview of the enhanced interregional coordination, maybe we probably need to massage the Council problem statement because as I look at it, it is a little in a little confusing as to 01:07:37.290 --> 01:07:44.100 Gail Peek: interregional conflicts and how they're incorporated. I think there needs to be some massaging in the Council problem statement. Suzanne Scott: Okay. That's fine. 01:07:45.030 --> 01:07:47.040 Gail Peek: The goal statement will be fine for the 01:07:47.040 --> 01:07:55.290 Gail Peek: enhancing interregional coordination, but I'd like that problem statement to be more bring in more of the 01:07:55.290 --> 01:07:56.370 coordination. 01:07:57.930 --> 01:08:00.960 Gail Peek: And then also get into 01:08:00.990 --> 01:08:02.010 Gail Peek: the interregional 01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:02.730 Gail Peek: conflict 01:08:02.940 --> 01:08:10.920 Gail Peek: as we just talked about it today. And with that said, then the flow makes sense in terms of 01:08:11.550 --> 01:08:13.560 Gail Peek: here's where we are, here's 01:08:13.620 --> 01:08:16.770 Gail Peek: where we're trying to go, here's the problem. 01:08:17.190 --> 01:08:17.610 Gail Peek: And then 01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:29.640 Gail Peek: here's the goal and then you go into the specifics of addressing them. I think that does become a more logical flow if we've got the overall problem statement stated correctly. 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:30.330 Suzanne Scott: Okay. 01:08:31.890 --> 01:08:32.970 I think 01:08:34.410 --> 01:08:40.140 Kelley Holcomb: So what you're saying Gail is you're going to bring back a proposed recommendation for a change in y'alls committee on the problem statement. 01:08:41.010 --> 01:08:44.820 Gail Peek: Yes, I think it needs to be massaged and we will, the committee will discuss 01:08:44.820 --> 01:08:47.640 Gail Peek: that next week and then we'll come back 01:08:47.730 --> 01:08:52.620 Gail Peek: and make sure it's consistent with what we've talked about today. 01:08:54.060 --> 01:09:08.520 Suzanne Scott: Okay. That's fair. And, you know, you can look at the current problem statement and goal statement and also the interregional conflict problem statement and goal statement at the bottom of this page to see if there's any massaging, I mean, to incorporate the two together. 01:09:09.930 --> 01:09:11.430 Suzanne Scott: I think that would be good and 01:09:13.500 --> 01:09:17.970 Suzanne Scott: if Suzanne Schwartz can facilitate and help you 01:09:19.380 --> 01:09:33.960 Suzanne Scott: in your thought process, Gail, prior to your meeting, I'm sure she would be glad to assist you in that since she sort of helped facilitate the conflict meeting or the work group. It may be good for y'all to have a conversation in advance of your committee meeting. 01:09:36.180 --> 01:09:37.260 Suzanne Schwartz: Happy to do that, Gail. 01:09:38.220 --> 01:09:44.970 Gail Peek: Oh, I agree because anybody who knows me says if I sit in a room alone, I can come up with some great ideas. Oh, there are other people. 01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:50.220 Gail Peek: I appreciate that. Suzanne Scott: Thank you. 01:09:51.270 --> 01:09:54.900 Suzanne Scott: And then we did, I did talk about this earlier, but I think just 01:09:55.770 --> 01:10:04.440 Suzanne Scott: even though we are kind of going to wrap up some of the recommendations of the conflict issue underneath the interregional coordination, I do 01:10:04.950 --> 01:10:16.080 Suzanne Scott: I do think because it was something that we were asked specifically to look at by Chairman Larson that we're, we are going to have to have something here and I will leave that up to 01:10:17.370 --> 01:10:30.270 Suzanne Scott: the interregional coordination group to figure out exactly how, but Kelley and I felt like, let's just still have it here as a separate part of the report, and then we'll see how it flows when when y'all are working on 01:10:31.740 --> 01:10:38.460 Suzanne Scott: on the report and how that is so that's that it's getting the attention that we were asked to give it. 01:10:40.200 --> 01:10:41.010 Kelley Holcomb: Most definitely. 01:10:42.030 --> 01:10:56.580 Kelley Holcomb: And actually, Suzanne. I think that based on some of the scheduling, we might have some time at the end of the committee process to kind of camp out in park on that one topic as a Council, which would be important for us to do if we could accomplish it. 01:10:57.630 --> 01:10:58.950 Suzanne Scott: I agree with you on that. 01:10:59.040 --> 01:11:01.980 Suzanne Scott: And because that based on some of the 01:11:03.090 --> 01:11:05.340 Suzanne Scott: some of the conversations that may be had at 01:11:06.270 --> 01:11:20.100 Suzanne Scott: at Gail's committee, you know, let's we can flush that out. We said, from the very beginning that we would work on this conflict is a kind of a Committee of the Whole, so to speak. So I think this would be the like Kelley said we can address that toward the end. 01:11:22.740 --> 01:11:33.150 Suzanne Scott: Okay. Anything else on this outline or our process or schedule or expectations, anything that I have missed 01:11:34.290 --> 01:11:36.420 Suzanne Scott: or that anyone feels, we need to address. 01:11:39.780 --> 01:11:40.230 Suzanne Scott: Okay. 01:11:45.210 --> 01:11:57.570 Suzanne Scott: So I think we're moving right through this agenda. We've already talked about the report the outline the status next under item five. This is kind of a catch all 01:11:58.530 --> 01:12:12.180 Suzanne Scott: for if we need any more materials for any of our future meetings, this she's Temple's just put up the schedule of our next full council meetings that are already should be on your 01:12:13.440 --> 01:12:15.060 Suzanne Scott: your calendars and held. 01:12:17.340 --> 01:12:28.680 Suzanne Scott: Does anyone on the call feel like there's any information that they need that they don't have or that they would feel would be important for us as a council or you as a subcommittees. 01:12:31.620 --> 01:12:38.160 Suzanne Schwartz: Suzanne, this is Suzanne Schwartz. I'm just wondering if you know you're going to need to 01:12:38.970 --> 01:12:49.260 Suzanne Schwartz: just have a placeholder for one more Council meeting before the 16th to approve a final report. You know, if you if you're doing tweaks to it after the 01:12:49.740 --> 01:12:58.770 Suzanne Schwartz: I don't know if it's are you planning that it will be ready to approve on the 30th or do you feel like you need to reserve one more meeting in order to 01:12:59.940 --> 01:13:01.440 Suzanne Schwartz: have the Council available 01:13:01.440 --> 01:13:05.130 Suzanne Schwartz: if needed. Obviously, if it can be done before that, great. 01:13:08.340 --> 01:13:09.030 Suzanne Scott: We could 01:13:10.530 --> 01:13:12.210 Suzanne Scott: just put a placeholder on 01:13:12.750 --> 01:13:16.650 Suzanne Scott: that first part of October. It just is to hold people's calendars. 01:13:17.910 --> 01:13:25.260 Suzanne Scott: Maybe a good idea, even if it's a short meeting just to and we can always cancel it. If we don't need it. But I know calendars are going to be filling up. 01:13:26.910 --> 01:13:33.420 Suzanne Scott: Would everybody be okay if we put out a Doodle Poll, just for that timeframe between the 30th. 01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:37.650 Suzanne Scott: And I would say, looking at the calendar 01:13:41.730 --> 01:13:43.290 Suzanne Scott: it would really have to be 01:13:44.700 --> 01:13:53.940 Suzanne Scott: sometime that week of the fifth of October. I don't think it could be any later than that, especially if we were going to have to finalize you know that word smithing and the final report 01:13:54.480 --> 01:13:59.820 Suzanne Scott: work that the Water Development Board staff is going to have to do to package it make it look pretty, all of that. 01:14:03.270 --> 01:14:08.940 Suzanne Scott: Everyone okay with a Doodle Poll for see what we what availability, we have that week of the fifth of October. 01:14:11.670 --> 01:14:14.190 Suzanne Scott: I'm not hearing any opposition. 01:14:15.930 --> 01:14:25.110 Suzanne Scott: Okay then Temple, would you mind please sending out a Doodle Poll for that week and see what we can lock in. Just as a 01:14:26.280 --> 01:14:27.060 Suzanne Scott: safeguard. 01:14:27.660 --> 01:14:28.020 Temple McKinnon: Will do. 01:14:29.580 --> 01:14:34.530 Suzanne Scott: Okay, thank you for the suggestion. Suzanne. Okay. Is there anything else that 01:14:35.610 --> 01:14:40.170 Suzanne Scott: for discussion of agenda for future meetings or anything else. 01:14:45.900 --> 01:14:47.550 Suzanne Scott: Okay, I'm not hearing anything. 01:14:49.170 --> 01:15:06.510 Suzanne Scott: So again, I really appreciate the work of the committees. I know y'all are working hard and doing a lot of meetings. I'm seeing all the notices. So again, all of you have really stepped up and done all this extra work and I really appreciate everybody for your work. 01:15:08.160 --> 01:15:13.800 Suzanne Scott: So I think we need to go into public comment at the end of the meeting so 01:15:15.900 --> 01:15:23.370 Suzanne Schwartz: Again if if Vicki will be unmuting everyone on the call either indicate at the 01:15:25.380 --> 01:15:31.950 Suzanne Schwartz: With your hand on the bottom of or verbally if you wish to make a public comment to the group. 01:15:39.330 --> 01:15:42.150 Suzanne Schwartz: Give her, Vicki let me know when everyone is unmuted. 01:15:45.630 --> 01:15:46.950 Vicki Read: Okay. Everybody's ready now. 01:15:47.130 --> 01:15:49.800 Suzanne Schwartz: All right. Does anyone wish to address the Council. 01:15:54.900 --> 01:15:58.980 Suzanne Schwartz: I'm not hearing anyone. Vicki are you seeing any hands up. 01:15:59.400 --> 01:15:59.970 Vicki Read: I'm not. 01:16:00.420 --> 01:16:03.480 Suzanne Schwartz: Alright. I think that there are no comments, then. 01:16:03.900 --> 01:16:13.980 Suzanne Scott: Terrific. Well, I'm going to give you a couple hours back today because we may need everything at the next meeting for going over recommendations. So I appreciate everybody again, thank you so much and 01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:16.830 Suzanne Scott: look forward to seeing you all again on the 01:16:17.100 --> 01:16:17.550 12th 01:16:18.630 --> 01:16:20.190 Suzanne Scott: of August. Thank you. 01:16:20.460 --> 01:16:21.750 Kelley Holcomb: Y'all have a good weekend. Thank you. 01:16:21.930 --> 01:16:23.280 Suzanne Scott: Thanks so much for your time. 01:16:23.370 --> 01:16:23.910 Suzanne Scott: Appreciate it. 01:16:24.630 --> 01:16:25.230 Suzanne Schwartz: All right here.