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JEAN DEVLIN: Alright, guys.

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We're gonna go ahead
and get started.

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So for those of you that I don't
know, my name is Jean Devlin.

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I'm an environmental reviewer
at the Texas Water Development

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Board, and I'll be presenting
the EID component of this

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presentation.

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And I'll let William
introduce himself.

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WILLIAM ALFARO: Good morning.

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Welcome, everyone.

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It's a real pleasure
having you all here.

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Thank you for those who
are joining this webinar.

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My name is William Alfaro,
I'm an environmental

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reviewer with the Regional
Planning and Development

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Division at the Texas
Water Development Board.

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And today, the main purpose of
this training is to provide you,

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(INAUDIBLE) about the upgrade
categorical exclusion criteria.

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And we also are gonna have
review of the new environmental

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information document.

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Also, we are gonna provide
a general overview of the Texas

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Water Development Board
environmental review process.

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So welcome, everybody.

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And here's the agenda for today.

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Basically, we are gonna divide
our presentation in three parts.

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I'm gonna be covering
parts a and b, and Jean is

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gonna be covering part c,
as she explained before.

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So for the general
overview, we are gonna work

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the main purpose of why we
do environmental reviews.

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We are gonna explain
the difference between federal

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and state-funded programs,
how we review the application

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of the projects,
and determination of the level

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of review they're gonna apply
for each of the projects.

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For categorical exclusion,
the main goal here is to provide

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you the updated criteria
for categorical exclusion.

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We are expanding our criteria,
and we want you to know those

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changes that we are proposing.

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So it's a good opportunity to
share this information with you.

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We're gonna work with
some definitions about

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categorical exclusion,
the eligibility for those

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projects which was qualified
and which was not qualified.

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Like I said, the proposed
amendments to categorical

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exclusions.

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And, at the end of this
section, we are gonna work with

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some examples of what projects
can qualify for categorical

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exclusions and which was not.

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And we'll go over it's
historic circumstances that

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can affect those projects.

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I'm gonna let Jean to
explain the part c.

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JEAN DEVLIN: So I'll be going
over the new environmental

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information document.

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So most of you have a copy
of the new EID in your hand.

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We'll be going over what an EID
is, what a FNSI is, and just

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giving a general overview of
the TAC code or the Texas

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Administrative Code that defines
what is required for the clean

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water, state revolving fund
and for the drinking water state

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revolving fund.

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We'll give an overview of
a project timeline, and then

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we'll specifically start to
review the EID, providing key

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information for each section.

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And for both of our
presentations or sections,

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we're going to have time
to have a little bit of

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a question-and-answer session.

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So you can ask specific
questions about the new CE

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criteria, about the new EID,
and then if we have time,

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we can potentially go into
specific project questions.

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So with that...

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WILLIAM ALFARO: Thanks, Jean.

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So I wanna let you know that
this presentation is gonna be

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emailed to you at the end.

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Also, we are gonna have
a recording of this presentation

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in our website soon.

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So if you wanna come back
and review a little more of

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the information, it's gonna
be available for you.

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So after the section part
a and b, we're gonna have

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a five-minute break.

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And I would like if we have some
questions, we can save those for

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questions and answers periods.

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So we're gonna start
here presenting you some

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acronyms and abbreviations.

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This list is just provided
to you for future reference,

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but I would like to go over
a few of them that we are

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gonna be using frequently
in these presentations.

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So the first one is CE,
categorical exclusion.

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We have the EID, environmental
information document.

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A FNSI, finding of no
significant impact.

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And DNE, determination
of no effect.

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And the last one, Kelly, I would
like to focus is in the Texas

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administrative code, TAC.

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So, like I said, all of
these ones are just provided

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for your reference later on.

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So for part a, like I said
before, we're gonna go over

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some general overview of
the environmental review

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process of the Texas
Water Environment Board.

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And I know most of you probably
are familiar with environmental

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process review process.

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I would like to go over just
with the goal for background.

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And our main goal is to refresh
the knowledge and also provide

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you with a new information
here in the new process in

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environmental review.

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So why we do
environmental reviews?

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This is the main question
here, why environmental

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reviews are important.

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All Texas Water Environment
Board funded need to comply

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with local, state, and federal
laws in order to make sure

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that all projects are not
gonna have an adverse impact

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on the human environment
in natural resources.

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For, federal funds, the clean
water and drinking water state

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revolving funds, those two
funding programs need to meet

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all environmental protection
agency requirements and comply

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with with NEPA.

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So that's the difference there.

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And for the state programs,
the requirements are are at

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the state level, and all of
these rules are stated in

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the Texas Administrative Code.

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So the the main goal of these
laws and regulations is to,

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like I said, avoid, minimize,
if necessary, mitigate,

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the impact that those projects
may have in the environment.

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The purposes here is to
provide to the executive

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administrator with all
the information necessary for

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them to make the determination
they can fund the projects.

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So with that, we want to provide
him the information necessary

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to make sure the regulatory
agencies make the reviews.

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And with that review, make
sure that those projects

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won't have an adverse impact.

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So the basic level,
the environmental review

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is divided between federal
and state-funded programs.

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For the state, we have the State
Water Implementation Fund for

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Texas, SWIFT, the Economical
Distress Areas Program, EDAP,

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the Texas Water Development
Fund, DFund, Rural Water

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Assistance Fund, and the State
Participation Program.

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So those are the state
programs for the Texas

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Water Development Board.

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And the federal programs,
like I said before, the clean

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water and drinking water's
state revolving funds.

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So the the difference between
the reviews is like like I said

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that for state programs, we are
gonna follow the procedures

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state at the state level
and for federal programs, they

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need to comply with NEPA.

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Here we are providing some
key application elements that

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we use to determine the level
of review that we're gonna

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have for different
projects that we receive.

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At this point, we relied on
the information that you

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provide us in the preliminary
engineering feasibility report.

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We look for the schedule.

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We look for the budget just
to make sure that you are

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allowing time and money for
the environmental review

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process.

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At this point, you can see
there is specific information

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that we use to make that
determination to see that

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if the project is gonna qualify
for a categorical exclusion or

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the project is gonna need
or require a full review.

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So that's the main point here.

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The main point here is that
all the information that

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you provide and the weather
information that you provide us

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is gonna help us to make that
determination in an easy way.

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So that is important when we say
we need a good, clear, specific

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description of the project.

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We need a good, clear,
specific description of

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the project location.

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All those factors, all that
information is gonna help us

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to make that determination.

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After we review
the information that you

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provide us, like I said, we
review the schedule budget,

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description of the project.

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Also, we relied on
the information that you

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provide for the draft of
the engineering contracts

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to find that information
that's gonna help us to

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make the determination.

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So based on that review, we are
gonna determine if the project

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qualifies for a categorical
exclusion or if the project

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gonna require a full review.

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If the project qualifies for
a categorical exclusion or

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a determination of no effect,
then I would like to use

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this moment just to clarify
that categorical exclusion

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and determination of no effect
are basically the same thing.

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We choose a categorical
exclusion for federal programs

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and determination of no effect
for state-funded programs.

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So that's the difference
user name.

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But basically the process is
gonna be the same meaning,

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categorical exclusion.

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So in your application, do
you say that your project

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may qualify for categorical
exclusion, we are gonna

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provide you with a categorical
exclusion request.

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With that form, you are gonna
provide us with additional

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information, and we will
probably ask a little more,

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asking for more information
that you're gonna provide us.

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And like I said, all of that
information is gonna allow us

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to make that determination
if really the project qualifies

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for a categorical exclusion.

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If the project qualifies for
CE, like I said before, federal

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funds or determination of no
effect state funds, we prefer

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to make that determination
before long commitment.

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If for any reason we don't
have that determination

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before loan commitment,
that's gonna add a few

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steps for federal programs.

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And basically, the ones that
are here, the categorical

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exclusion must be published
in a local newspaper, provide

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the Texas Water Development
Board with the published

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affidavit and tier sheet.

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And, basically, that
affirmation, that extra

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procedure is gonna delay
the project around two months.

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So that's the reason why
we prefer to have that

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determination before.

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Like I said before, if for
any reason we don't make that

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determination, it's gonna just
delay value over the process.

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But that's the only thing
that can happen there.

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So with that, we are
concluding the part a.

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A, like I said, it was just
a general review of how we

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use the information that
you provide us to determine

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if the project is gonna
qualify for a categorical

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exclusion or the project is
gonna require a full review.

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Here, we're gonna start
talking about the part B,

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which is categorical exclusion
or determination of no effect.

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And basically, the main idea
here is provide you with

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information about the expansion
of our qualifying criteria for

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categorical exclusion and some
important definitions for...

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Correct.

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So basically, for both
state and federal programs,

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categorical exclusion is
just exclusion from a full

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environmental review.

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The Environmental Protection
Agency, EPA, has identified

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some categories of actions
that those actions may not

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have a significant adverse
effect on the quality of

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the human environment in either
individually or community.

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So again, here, we are focusing
the categorical exclusion

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as for federal programs,
and the determination of no

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effect is a step version of CE.

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So categorical exclusion,
what are the changes that

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we are proposing?

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So we are expanding
the CE criteria for

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categorical exclusions.

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So the change basically
have three different items.

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And in general, the changes
broaden the categorical

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exclusions criteria.

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And one of the main items
is that (INAUDIBLE) that

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affect the degree of
treatment may qualify.

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In the past, any change in
the degree of treatment

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will disqualify a project.

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So that's a main change now
that those projects that

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before were disqualified
for the change of degree of

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treatment now may qualify under
this new extension criteria.

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The other one is that
constructions of minor ancillary

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facilities located or directly
adjacent to existing properties.

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Before, in our current rules,
any change that we would make

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in the same property, we qualify
for a categorical exclusion.

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But if we would like to make
that (INAUDIBLE) facility

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adjacent to that property, that
will disqualify the project.

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But now in our current rules,
that project may qualify for

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categorical exclusion too.

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And the other change that
we are proposing is used

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to provide the categorical
exclusion request form that

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this is a modification of
the information that you

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provide us.

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And the main goal of the new
categorical exclusion request

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form is to provide a little
additional information for us

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to make that determination.

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The amendments that we are
covering are the rules are

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gonna be affect, but those
changes are listed there.

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And Jean is gonna talk a little
bit later on in the presentation

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about the tax rules
they're gonna be changing.

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So here we have the categorical
exclusion criteria.

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And we'd like to emphasize
that not all the projects

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will qualify for
a categorical exclusion.

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Some projects may qualify,
some of them don't qualify,

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and there are some extraordinary
circumstances that can

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affect that eligibility for
a categorical exclusion.

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So there's a specific criteria.

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There are four specific groups
or categories that can qualify

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for a categorical exclusion.

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And basically, those are
the projects may qualify

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if they import upgrades that
are minor expansion of a system

00:18:34.690 --> 00:18:37.480
capacity, rehabilitation of
functional replacement of

00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:42.160
existing systems and system
components, and the construction

00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:48.000
of new and minor facilities
located on or directly adjacent

00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.387
to existing facilities.

00:18:49.387 --> 00:18:53.840
So any projects that can fit
in one of those categories

00:18:53.840 --> 00:18:56.600
of actions may qualify for
a categorical exclusion.

00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:09.200
And here, we have a list of
different factors that can

00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:13.160
disqualify a project for
a categorical exclusion.

00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:22.040
So when we review a project,
we see first if the project

00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.520
fits in one of those
categories I just explained.

00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.707
And then we are gonna see
if the project involve any of

00:19:30.707 --> 00:19:32.307
these disqualifying criteria.

00:19:32.307 --> 00:19:36.360
And that is affected
project, and we will need to

00:19:36.360 --> 00:19:42.733
do some agency coordination
to mitigate those factors.

00:19:42.733 --> 00:19:46.100
So what can
disqualify a project?

00:19:46.100 --> 00:19:51.467
A new or relocated discharge
to surface or groundwater.

00:19:51.467 --> 00:19:55.440
Any action that can
result in the substantial

00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:59.080
increase on the volume of
loading of pollutants to

00:19:59.080 --> 00:20:01.920
the receiving water.

00:20:03.080 --> 00:20:08.120
If the program will serve
a 30% graded population,

00:20:08.120 --> 00:20:11.200
that is another factor
that could disqualify for

00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:12.460
a categorical exclusion.

00:20:12.460 --> 00:20:17.250
And any action that is not
supported by the state or other

00:20:17.250 --> 00:20:21.493
regional plan or strategy.

00:20:21.493 --> 00:20:25.920
And the last one here
that we have is involve

00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:29.190
or related upgrading or
existing infrastructure

00:20:29.230 --> 00:20:31.470
for future development.

00:20:32.510 --> 00:20:36.710
So those are the factors that
can disqualify a project for

00:20:36.710 --> 00:20:39.230
categorical exclusion or
determination of no effect.

00:20:46.950 --> 00:20:50.670
And here, we have a list of
extraordinary circumstances

00:20:50.670 --> 00:20:55.857
that can affect the eligibility
for a categorical exclusion.

00:20:55.857 --> 00:20:59.710
And I would like to emphasize
that these extraordinary

00:20:59.710 --> 00:21:03.790
circumstances may be present
at any phase of the project.

00:21:03.790 --> 00:21:08.700
It can be known at the planning,
designs, constructions.

00:21:08.700 --> 00:21:15.190
And if we discover that
one of those extraordinary

00:21:15.190 --> 00:21:18.910
circumstances after
the planning phase, did make

00:21:18.910 --> 00:21:22.230
cause to the categorical
exclusion to be revoked.

00:21:22.270 --> 00:21:31.617
So, one is one of the risks that
can disqualify the project if we

00:21:31.617 --> 00:21:34.777
discover these extraordinary
circumstances later on.

00:21:34.777 --> 00:21:39.510
And you can think of all of
these ones here as any natural

00:21:39.510 --> 00:21:45.950
resources, social, cultural,
socioeconomic resource that may

00:21:45.990 --> 00:21:48.870
be affected by the action of
the project we are proposing.

00:21:52.270 --> 00:21:58.190
And those action may have
a potential impact on

00:21:58.230 --> 00:22:01.414
the human environment or any
of the natural resources,

00:22:01.414 --> 00:22:03.580
like like I said before here.

00:22:03.580 --> 00:22:06.630
I don't want to go over all
of them, but I would like to

00:22:07.670 --> 00:22:15.403
put as example that endangered
species or prime farmland that

00:22:15.403 --> 00:22:20.590
they can be affect, but those
actions we are gonna require

00:22:20.630 --> 00:22:27.993
some agency coordination
to mitigate those impacts.

00:22:27.993 --> 00:22:37.580
I was talking before about
the categorical exclusion

00:22:37.580 --> 00:22:41.233
request form, and this is just
a procedure that we're gonna

00:22:41.233 --> 00:22:47.335
follow now just to formalize
our process in how we are

00:22:47.335 --> 00:22:49.420
gonna make that determination.

00:22:49.660 --> 00:22:54.220
If you and your project
provided the information

00:22:54.220 --> 00:22:56.180
that your project may
qualify for a categorical

00:22:56.180 --> 00:23:00.060
exclusion, we are gonna
send you this request form.

00:23:02.300 --> 00:23:04.780
So we image you the form.

00:23:04.780 --> 00:23:07.460
You fill out the form
and submit us back to

00:23:07.780 --> 00:23:10.007
provide us the additional
information that we need.

00:23:10.007 --> 00:23:13.380
And we are gonna make, after
reviewing that information,

00:23:13.900 --> 00:23:17.460
categorical exclusion or
determination of no effect.

00:23:17.580 --> 00:23:22.482
And that is all we need to do
having that determination for

00:23:22.482 --> 00:23:25.490
project or state fund programs.

00:23:27.770 --> 00:23:32.850
For federal programs,
we have extra steps

00:23:32.850 --> 00:23:33.970
that we need to take.

00:23:38.050 --> 00:23:41.770
When we issue a categorical
exclusion, the client needs

00:23:41.770 --> 00:23:45.450
to publish the categorical
exclusion in a newspaper

00:23:45.690 --> 00:23:49.090
and provide us with
affidavit and tier sheet.

00:23:49.530 --> 00:23:52.690
That's the one extra
step that we need to

00:23:52.690 --> 00:23:54.463
take for federal funds.

00:23:54.463 --> 00:24:03.783
And the other one is that if we
make determination before loan

00:24:03.783 --> 00:24:09.210
commitment, we need to go for
an affirmation before the board

00:24:09.450 --> 00:24:11.437
for that determination.

00:24:11.437 --> 00:24:15.050
And as explained before,
the only thing that can happen

00:24:15.050 --> 00:24:21.570
here that's gonna delay, about
two months, the process.

00:24:21.570 --> 00:24:26.299
So two extra steps
for federal program.

00:24:26.299 --> 00:24:30.250
Please don't think that this
category restriction request

00:24:30.250 --> 00:24:32.963
form has used three questions
like we're showing there.

00:24:32.963 --> 00:24:35.890
It's not quite that
short, but it doesn't

00:24:35.890 --> 00:24:38.023
take too long to prepare.

00:24:38.023 --> 00:24:43.490
And we are gonna provide that
information to you if we have

00:24:43.490 --> 00:24:48.370
any reason to believe that based
on the environmental review

00:24:48.410 --> 00:24:52.943
that we do for the application,
we are gonna determine if your

00:24:52.943 --> 00:24:56.130
project qualifies for a CE,
and we're gonna send you that

00:24:56.370 --> 00:25:02.650
information to you to provide
us with additional information.

00:25:02.650 --> 00:25:08.490
So after all of that, we
are gonna work with three

00:25:08.490 --> 00:25:11.890
examples of projects that
they can qualify for

00:25:11.890 --> 00:25:12.910
a categorical exclusion.

00:25:12.910 --> 00:25:16.690
And, basically, the structure
here, we are gonna see under

00:25:16.690 --> 00:25:19.850
which categorical actions
that project qualifies for

00:25:19.850 --> 00:25:20.780
a categorical exclusion.

00:25:20.780 --> 00:25:27.160
We are gonna see if there is
any disqualifying factors.

00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:31.093
And at the end, we are gonna
evaluate if there are any

00:25:31.093 --> 00:25:33.267
extraordinary circumstances
that can affect the project.

00:25:33.267 --> 00:25:36.560
So the first one is very
common that usually

00:25:36.560 --> 00:25:39.237
qualifies for a categorical
exclusion, and it's just

00:25:39.237 --> 00:25:40.880
a pipeline replacement.

00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.240
That is something that we
get different projects

00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.440
that can qualify for
categorical exclusions.

00:25:47.600 --> 00:25:52.440
And like I said, if it's in
the same system, pipeline

00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.360
replacement should be eligible
for categorical exclusion.

00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:00.360
So under which categories
this qualifies?

00:26:00.360 --> 00:26:03.400
It qualifies under
rehabilitation or functional

00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:08.293
replacement of existing
systems and system components.

00:26:08.293 --> 00:26:13.960
After we do the review
and evaluate if there's any

00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:17.120
extreme factors for this
project, we are assuming that

00:26:17.120 --> 00:26:22.740
there are not extreme factors
that can affect this project.

00:26:22.740 --> 00:26:26.640
And when we have that
determination, so the project

00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:30.200
qualifies, we evaluate,
and there's no extreme factors.

00:26:30.760 --> 00:26:32.680
But what about extraordinary
circumstances?

00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.280
There is any extraordinary
circumstances that can

00:26:35.280 --> 00:26:36.760
affect this project.

00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:41.360
And here I wanna present you how
we handle these situations if we

00:26:41.360 --> 00:26:44.450
see or we determine that there
is extraordinary circumstances

00:26:44.450 --> 00:26:47.000
affecting our project.

00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:55.560
If we are gonna replace
a pipeline but that replacement

00:26:55.560 --> 00:26:59.395
is gonna happen adjacent to
a cemetery, that's a certain

00:26:59.395 --> 00:27:05.760
circumstance and we are gonna
require some level of agency

00:27:05.760 --> 00:27:10.520
coordination to make sure that
our project is not gonna affect

00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.080
cultural resources in this case.

00:27:14.800 --> 00:27:18.030
SPEAKER: So, if we see that
your pipe replacement is gonna

00:27:18.030 --> 00:27:22.806
happen adjacent to a cemetery,
we gonna require you to, in

00:27:22.806 --> 00:27:27.270
coordination with the Texas
Historical Commission, to have

00:27:28.230 --> 00:27:31.510
them to evaluate the project
and see if they have any

00:27:31.510 --> 00:27:34.217
recommendations for you.

00:27:34.217 --> 00:27:39.190
So, in this case,
the Texas Historical

00:27:39.190 --> 00:27:42.630
Commission recommended that
an archaeologist needs to be

00:27:42.630 --> 00:27:47.203
there at the time that you
gonna replace the pipeline.

00:27:47.203 --> 00:27:52.310
So, having that recommendation,
we are gonna issue

00:27:52.350 --> 00:27:56.350
the categorical exclusion,
and the funding is gonna be

00:27:56.350 --> 00:27:59.750
conditioned that you are gonna
have the archaeologist at

00:27:59.750 --> 00:28:03.230
the moment that
the replacement is happening.

00:28:06.150 --> 00:28:10.270
As a follow-up, we gonna
review the plans and contract

00:28:10.310 --> 00:28:16.384
documents to make sure that
you have an archaeologist

00:28:16.384 --> 00:28:18.089
present at that time.

00:28:18.089 --> 00:28:21.260
Also, we are going to require
some documentation that

00:28:21.300 --> 00:28:25.060
the archaeologist was there
for the pipeline replacement.

00:28:25.060 --> 00:28:29.340
So, basically, that's the way
we are going to handle some

00:28:29.340 --> 00:28:33.340
extraordinary circumstances
when we are looking for

00:28:33.380 --> 00:28:36.260
a project that may qualify
for a categorical exclusion.

00:28:36.860 --> 00:28:42.073
And we have a different
example here.

00:28:42.073 --> 00:28:47.940
It's a water treatment plant
upgrade, and what we want

00:28:47.940 --> 00:28:53.420
to do here, the project is
proposing to install a nuclear

00:28:53.420 --> 00:28:55.713
fire in an existing property.

00:28:55.713 --> 00:29:00.460
So, as you see in the graph,
the proposed action is

00:29:00.460 --> 00:29:05.860
between the property,
the existing system that you

00:29:05.860 --> 00:29:06.993
already have there.

00:29:06.993 --> 00:29:10.980
So, installing a new
fire will qualify for

00:29:10.980 --> 00:29:13.513
a categorical exclusion.

00:29:13.513 --> 00:29:21.273
So, under which category it
qualifies, under construction

00:29:21.273 --> 00:29:26.820
of minor ancillary facilities
located on or adjacent to

00:29:26.940 --> 00:29:27.953
existing facilities.

00:29:27.953 --> 00:29:34.020
So, that's the category,
and again, we evaluate all

00:29:34.020 --> 00:29:37.660
the information that we have,
and we determine that there

00:29:37.660 --> 00:29:42.620
are not any exclusion factors
affecting that project, and once

00:29:42.620 --> 00:29:46.660
again, we go and see if there is
any extraordinary circumstances

00:29:46.660 --> 00:29:48.460
that can affect the project.

00:29:48.460 --> 00:29:54.252
So, so far, the project is still
qualifying for a categorical

00:29:54.252 --> 00:30:03.100
exclusion, but here we can see
that the area where we want

00:30:03.100 --> 00:30:08.860
to replace the clarifier is
heavily vegetated, so we have

00:30:08.860 --> 00:30:14.150
the concern that if we do some
clearing of this vegetation,

00:30:14.150 --> 00:30:22.610
we're going to impact endangered
species of any other wildlife

00:30:22.610 --> 00:30:25.170
that can be there
in their habitat.

00:30:25.170 --> 00:30:29.930
So, that is a circumstance that
can affect our project, and we,

00:30:29.930 --> 00:30:35.090
again, want to require you to
have some agency coordination

00:30:35.090 --> 00:30:41.730
with Texas Parks and Wildlife
and probably with the US Fish

00:30:41.730 --> 00:30:42.663
and Wildlife Service.

00:30:42.663 --> 00:30:47.090
So, that's the agency
coordination that we're going

00:30:47.130 --> 00:30:52.890
to require, and if we get some
recommendations, we are going

00:30:52.970 --> 00:30:59.650
to issue our findings depending
on those recommendations for

00:30:59.690 --> 00:31:03.250
the agency regulatory.

00:31:03.250 --> 00:31:08.810
So, in this case, the Texas
Parks and Wildlife Department

00:31:08.850 --> 00:31:17.150
recommended that a survey may
be conducted for the project

00:31:17.150 --> 00:31:24.050
if the project is going
to, the action is going to

00:31:24.050 --> 00:31:30.450
happen during the nesting
of migratory birds.

00:31:30.850 --> 00:31:35.130
And so what happened here
is that the Texas Wildlife

00:31:35.130 --> 00:31:38.970
Development Board is going to
issue the categorical exclusion.

00:31:38.970 --> 00:31:43.090
Like I said before, just
condition it to the nesting

00:31:43.090 --> 00:31:48.733
survey that we're going to
require, and the Texas Wildlife

00:31:48.733 --> 00:31:52.463
Department is required.

00:31:52.463 --> 00:31:54.470
The same thing here.

00:31:54.470 --> 00:32:00.570
We are going to just follow up
with reviewing the contract,

00:32:00.650 --> 00:32:04.943
making sure that you are
considering these actions

00:32:04.943 --> 00:32:16.040
in your planning specs
and contracts for this action.

00:32:16.040 --> 00:32:20.680
So, basically, here, we
went over two different

00:32:21.120 --> 00:32:24.307
projects that can qualify
for categorical exclusion.

00:32:24.307 --> 00:32:27.560
As you can see, those
extraordinary circumstances

00:32:27.560 --> 00:32:31.824
really can affect the issuance
of the categorical exclusion,

00:32:31.824 --> 00:32:37.000
but what we need to do is
to ask you to make that

00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:41.840
coordination with the agency
or agency's regulatory for

00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:43.920
those natural resources.

00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:48.760
The last example that we
have here is related to

00:32:48.800 --> 00:32:52.960
the expansion of the criteria,
the categorical exclusion

00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:57.640
criteria, and basically is
the degree of treatment.

00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:03.520
Before any change of
the degree of treatment

00:33:03.800 --> 00:33:05.480
will disqualify a project.

00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:12.790
So, we are proposing these
changes to expand that and see

00:33:12.790 --> 00:33:16.950
if the project may qualify
for a categorical exclusion.

00:33:19.630 --> 00:33:26.430
In this case, what we have
here is if any community wants

00:33:26.430 --> 00:33:31.550
to install a social media
system to reduce the arsenic

00:33:31.550 --> 00:33:39.710
level of their groundwater
well, that change typically

00:33:39.910 --> 00:33:42.590
can disqualify the project.

00:33:42.590 --> 00:33:50.830
But if we determine that that
replacement won't change

00:33:50.830 --> 00:33:55.250
the discharge point and won't
increase the load of pollutant

00:33:55.250 --> 00:34:00.083
discharging, we are going to
issue the categorical exclusion.

00:34:00.083 --> 00:34:04.990
We would like to emphasize
here that for this media

00:34:04.990 --> 00:34:11.190
system replacement,
the TCQ does require

00:34:11.190 --> 00:34:15.817
a license for contractors
to manage this treatment.

00:34:15.817 --> 00:34:20.590
So, we are changing here
the degree of treatment,

00:34:20.590 --> 00:34:23.070
but basically there
is no action.

00:34:23.070 --> 00:34:26.890
We are not requiring
any additional permits,

00:34:26.890 --> 00:34:32.150
and that's the reason why
the project still may qualify

00:34:32.190 --> 00:34:33.610
for a categorical exclusion.

00:34:33.610 --> 00:34:38.190
That is the fact that we are
not increasing the volume

00:34:38.190 --> 00:34:41.550
of discharging or we are not
changing the point of discharge.

00:34:41.550 --> 00:34:46.630
Those are enough reasons to
still qualify the project

00:34:46.630 --> 00:34:49.550
for a categorical exclusion.

00:34:52.970 --> 00:35:02.710
So, we gonna have a five-minute
break, and we are going to have

00:35:02.750 --> 00:35:05.980
first the question-and-answer
session, and after that we are

00:35:05.980 --> 00:35:08.660
going to have a five-minute
break, and then Gina is going

00:35:08.700 --> 00:35:12.327
to be over the part C
of the presentation.

00:35:12.327 --> 00:35:17.010
So, if there is any
questions, this is the time.

00:35:17.010 --> 00:35:17.760
Yes?

00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:18.510
Mm-hmm.

00:35:18.510 --> 00:35:19.260
Yes.

00:35:34.540 --> 00:35:35.100
Yes.

00:35:36.300 --> 00:35:38.033
Those are...

00:35:38.033 --> 00:35:39.060
Thank you.

00:35:39.180 --> 00:35:40.180
That's a good clarification.

00:35:40.180 --> 00:35:41.100
Thank you for the question.

00:35:44.420 --> 00:35:48.509
Here are the ones that you...

00:35:48.509 --> 00:35:49.451
Mm-hmm.

00:35:49.451 --> 00:35:50.079
Yes?

00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:57.793
SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE) We
are seeing the need for

00:35:57.793 --> 00:36:02.393
things that would come
through as recommendations

00:36:02.393 --> 00:36:05.060
from Parks and Wildlife,
and one good example would

00:36:05.060 --> 00:36:08.820
be the recommendation for
a mandatory bird testing survey.

00:36:10.140 --> 00:36:12.700
There's a lot of
projects that might fit

00:36:12.700 --> 00:36:16.600
that type of condition.

00:36:17.210 --> 00:36:22.100
But would you all not require
that only unless you received

00:36:22.140 --> 00:36:25.207
a recommendation from the Parks
and Wildlife Department?

00:36:28.189 --> 00:36:30.620
That wouldn't necessarily be
a condition unless it showed

00:36:30.620 --> 00:36:34.140
up in the Parks and Wildlife
newsletter, or is that going

00:36:34.140 --> 00:36:37.180
to be something that you
might instill yourself as

00:36:37.180 --> 00:36:40.649
an agency as a condition
in these determinants?

00:36:40.649 --> 00:36:43.323
Or in a category
for the students?

00:36:43.323 --> 00:36:44.780
SPEAKER: That's a really,
really good question.

00:36:44.780 --> 00:36:45.607
Thank you.

00:36:45.607 --> 00:36:49.089
So, that's an extraordinary
circumstance right there, right?

00:36:49.089 --> 00:36:52.060
And for us, we cannot
make that determination.

00:36:52.060 --> 00:36:55.580
So, what we're going to do
is require you to have that

00:36:55.580 --> 00:36:59.100
coordination with the agency
regulatory, because we are

00:36:59.100 --> 00:37:00.737
not agency regulatory.

00:37:00.737 --> 00:37:05.610
We're going to ask you to do
that coordination, and sometimes

00:37:05.650 --> 00:37:07.050
they don't make recommendations.

00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:10.650
They're going to say there's
no issue there, but sometimes

00:37:10.650 --> 00:37:14.730
they will do, and we are going
to adapt those recommendations

00:37:14.770 --> 00:37:18.410
and issue the category exclusion
depending on that recommendation

00:37:18.450 --> 00:37:19.267
that they would...

00:37:19.267 --> 00:37:19.536
SPEAKER: Right.

00:37:19.536 --> 00:37:20.341
So, we don't...

00:37:20.341 --> 00:37:24.789
The water development
is not recommended.

00:37:24.789 --> 00:37:33.853
We issue a category...

00:37:33.853 --> 00:37:55.350
We issue a CDE.

00:37:55.350 --> 00:37:58.610
SPEAKER: They still get copies
of it, and they might say, oh,

00:37:58.610 --> 00:37:59.410
we disagree with you.

00:37:59.410 --> 00:37:59.937
We don't...

00:37:59.937 --> 00:38:02.640
We think you need a survey
before you issue that.

00:38:02.680 --> 00:38:06.850
And that's the thing where
we're saying an extraordinary

00:38:06.850 --> 00:38:11.720
circumstance was found
after the CDE was issued.

00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:14.480
We have to get that
issue resolved before...

00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.520
For it to remain valid.

00:38:16.560 --> 00:38:18.880
SPEAKER: Would the Parks
and Wildlife Department be

00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:22.360
given an opportunity to
review projects for which

00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:26.560
applications for category
exclusion have been submitted?

00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.480
I mean, would they even have
an opportunity to provide

00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:33.320
a comment unless you were
considering not issuing

00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:34.130
a category exclusion?

00:38:34.130 --> 00:38:36.400
SPEAKER: It would be
a determination on our

00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:40.080
part whether we thought
that should be required.

00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:46.320
And just like William said,
if we think there's a chance

00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:49.560
they might require that, we may
go ahead and tell you to go

00:38:49.560 --> 00:38:50.880
ahead and coordinate with them.

00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.560
We don't think that's likely.

00:38:52.560 --> 00:38:55.800
We may not require that,
but like I said, we send them

00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:01.867
copies immediately, and if they
respond that they disagree that

00:39:01.867 --> 00:39:04.296
they shouldn't get a CDE until
that survey's been issued,

00:39:04.296 --> 00:39:10.583
then we can hold off until
the survey's been issued.

00:39:10.583 --> 00:39:14.160
SPEAKER: So, following up
on that same question, so

00:39:14.160 --> 00:39:18.880
when you get the CDE from
the applicant, so you send

00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:23.120
it to all the agencies, you
do your own due diligence on

00:39:23.120 --> 00:39:26.160
the CDE information that you've
gotten from the applicant,

00:39:26.600 --> 00:39:31.440
and then you decide maybe there
needs to be some follow-up with

00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:34.880
either Fish and Wildlife or
THC or things like that.

00:39:35.160 --> 00:39:36.480
Do you send those out?

00:39:36.520 --> 00:39:37.900
SPEAKER: We don't
send them to them.

00:39:37.900 --> 00:39:43.400
If we can't, from our desktop
analysis, make a determination

00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:47.600
that we're comfortable with,
we just say, tell these guys,

00:39:47.600 --> 00:39:51.380
and whatever they say is what we
will need to make sure happens,

00:39:51.380 --> 00:39:55.289
and we will commission the CDE
to complete their requirement.

00:39:55.289 --> 00:39:58.790
SPEAKER: So, if the applicant's
responsibility to coordinate

00:39:58.790 --> 00:40:02.590
with the required regulatory
agency, we review the project,

00:40:02.590 --> 00:40:05.310
say, it looks like it,
but there might be an issue

00:40:05.310 --> 00:40:07.977
here, just to double check,
coordinating with these guys.

00:40:07.977 --> 00:40:11.603
So, in that case, the applicant
takes on the responsibility of

00:40:11.603 --> 00:40:15.150
coordination and then responds
to us with what that regulatory

00:40:15.150 --> 00:40:16.430
agency has to say.

00:40:16.430 --> 00:40:17.920
SPEAKER: At the CDE level?

00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:18.310
SPEAKER: Yes.

00:40:22.070 --> 00:40:27.515
SPEAKER: We're talking CDE for
state and federal, and then we

00:40:27.515 --> 00:40:34.070
jump to the new clean water
and drinking water federal.

00:40:34.710 --> 00:40:37.670
What happens to
the mid-level reform?

00:40:38.230 --> 00:40:41.738
Have any of those instructions
changed, or is state going to

00:40:41.738 --> 00:40:45.210
follow what we've already
got for non-CDE projects?

00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:48.347
SPEAKER: The stable
hasn't changed.

00:40:48.347 --> 00:40:49.289
It doest.

00:40:49.289 --> 00:40:52.803
The rules that describe what
qualifies as a category for

00:40:52.803 --> 00:40:59.380
exclusion are much broader
about what qualifies, what

00:40:59.380 --> 00:41:02.310
the concerns that have to
be addressed, whereas for

00:41:02.310 --> 00:41:07.860
federal, it's a lot more
specific, and it has to show

00:41:07.860 --> 00:41:11.916
compliance with the National
Environmental Policy Act.

00:41:11.916 --> 00:41:15.663
SPEAKER: So, there's nothing
to do now, because they don't

00:41:15.663 --> 00:41:21.196
have three levels, CDE, what's
called mid-level, and EID?

00:41:21.196 --> 00:41:23.920
The mid-level is only
for states, right?

00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:24.628
SPEAKER: Yes, for states.

00:41:24.628 --> 00:41:28.060
So, now you have three
levels for states.

00:41:28.060 --> 00:41:28.447
SPEAKER: Correct.

00:41:28.447 --> 00:41:32.709
However, an EID is not a state
level through a document.

00:41:32.709 --> 00:41:33.637
An EID only attracts...

00:41:33.637 --> 00:41:34.333
SPEAKER: Whatever you call it.

00:41:34.333 --> 00:41:34.333
(INAUDIBLE)

00:41:34.564 --> 00:41:36.942
SPEAKER: You call
it the mid-level.

00:41:36.942 --> 00:41:40.100
Well, we're encouraging
people just to do

00:41:40.100 --> 00:41:44.453
the environmental data form,
or the EDF, for states.

00:41:44.453 --> 00:41:47.100
And that's all the information.

00:41:47.100 --> 00:41:50.220
It's the same information you'd
be providing, basically, in

00:41:50.220 --> 00:41:53.060
an environmental assessment,
just in a more technical form.

00:41:53.060 --> 00:41:56.260
SPEAKER: And we can review
what an EDF is at the end of

00:41:56.260 --> 00:41:57.230
my section, if you'd like.

00:41:57.230 --> 00:41:59.620
We have a couple of
supplementary slides that

00:42:00.380 --> 00:42:04.300
describe what an EDF
is, and also comparing

00:42:04.300 --> 00:42:08.340
the timeline of state versus
federal, and what's required

00:42:08.700 --> 00:42:10.100
for each type of funding.

00:42:10.500 --> 00:42:12.440
SPEAKER: I should say for
everybody that doesn't

00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:13.620
know me, I'm a cowhand.

00:42:13.620 --> 00:42:15.580
I'm an environmental lead.

00:42:15.580 --> 00:42:18.700
That's why I'm jumping in here.

00:42:18.700 --> 00:42:22.327
So, any questions that you have?

00:42:22.327 --> 00:42:23.621
SPEAKER: Well, I hope
that will be enough.

00:42:23.621 --> 00:42:24.760
You can cover that.

00:42:25.300 --> 00:42:30.127
So, the mid-level view varies
100% between who the reviewer

00:42:30.127 --> 00:42:33.807
is, and I'm sure you all.

00:42:33.807 --> 00:42:38.420
SPEAKER: Well, I'm Jennifer
Kennedy, and I used to be

00:42:38.420 --> 00:42:41.620
the environmental team lead,
and since then, I'm now

00:42:41.660 --> 00:42:43.907
a management analyst at
the Water Development Board.

00:42:43.907 --> 00:42:47.770
When we created the mid-level
review for the state processes,

00:42:47.770 --> 00:42:51.660
the idea was that a lot of our
projects, just by nature, are

00:42:51.660 --> 00:42:52.750
pretty low in impact.

00:42:52.750 --> 00:42:55.570
And we have a lot more
flexibility on how we implement

00:42:55.570 --> 00:42:56.903
things on the state side.

00:42:56.903 --> 00:43:01.610
So, we said, well, let's create
this form, this mid-level review

00:43:01.650 --> 00:43:05.140
that's going to capture 95% of
the projects that run through

00:43:05.140 --> 00:43:10.210
here, and if the regulatory
agencies prior back and were

00:43:10.210 --> 00:43:12.450
looking through the agency
coordination, and all of

00:43:12.450 --> 00:43:15.850
the regulatory agencies seemed
extremely concerned, then that

00:43:15.850 --> 00:43:19.650
would be a time where we would
be discussing whether or not

00:43:19.650 --> 00:43:21.797
an additional level of
review would be required.

00:43:21.797 --> 00:43:25.130
So, the idea is that that
mid-level review is going to

00:43:25.130 --> 00:43:30.170
be applied to all projects that
don't qualify for categorical

00:43:30.170 --> 00:43:33.370
exclusion, and only in
circumstances where there seems

00:43:33.370 --> 00:43:36.610
to be profound impacts, that we
would add an additional level

00:43:36.610 --> 00:43:37.770
of review on to it.

00:43:39.570 --> 00:43:40.583
SPEAKER: Thank you, Kathy.

00:43:40.583 --> 00:43:43.803
SPEAKER: I have
another question.

00:43:43.803 --> 00:43:47.490
So, would, I assume
the applicant would

00:43:47.490 --> 00:43:58.040
have the option of
Absolutely (INAUDIBLE)

00:44:01.010 --> 00:44:06.130
SPEAKER: Absolutely,
that's going to help

00:44:06.170 --> 00:44:11.410
and make the process faster
and easier for both sides.

00:44:11.410 --> 00:44:13.330
That's a good thing to do.

00:44:17.810 --> 00:44:22.010
I was talking about the proposed
amendments that we are going to

00:44:22.010 --> 00:44:23.370
have for TAG rules.

00:44:23.370 --> 00:44:25.690
And just I want to let
you know that those

00:44:25.690 --> 00:44:28.210
are not in effect yet.

00:44:28.890 --> 00:44:32.290
We have submitted to
the state register for

00:44:32.290 --> 00:44:35.677
public comment, and we
haven't get any comment yet.

00:44:35.677 --> 00:44:39.890
So, at this point, we
anticipate that it can

00:44:39.930 --> 00:44:41.290
be in effect by July.

00:44:45.090 --> 00:44:48.930
Any more questions, any
comments, or anything that

00:44:49.040 --> 00:44:52.914
we would like to provide
to this discussion?

00:44:52.914 --> 00:45:05.322
SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE)

00:45:05.322 --> 00:45:08.120
SPEAKER: Thank you.

00:45:09.680 --> 00:45:11.600
I know there is.

00:45:11.600 --> 00:45:13.800
I feel like you are
filling that gap.

00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:15.623
What happened with
the mid-level review?

00:45:15.623 --> 00:45:19.240
But I just want to explain,
we would like to determine

00:45:19.240 --> 00:45:21.724
if the project qualifies for
our categorical international

00:45:21.724 --> 00:45:23.280
effect for state programs.

00:45:23.640 --> 00:45:27.600
And if not, you are going to
provide us the environmental

00:45:27.600 --> 00:45:30.200
data form, and we are going
to get that information

00:45:30.240 --> 00:45:35.000
and see what level of agency
coordination we need to do

00:45:35.040 --> 00:45:35.880
for the project.

00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.760
If not, we are going to take
a five-minute break and come

00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.350
back for Gene's section.

00:45:48.750 --> 00:45:49.310
Thank you.

00:53:16.710 --> 00:53:46.711
SPEAKER: (BACKGRAUND
CONVERSATION)

00:53:52.068 --> 00:53:52.070
JEAN DEVLIN: Alright guys,
I think we gonna go ahead

00:53:52.070 --> 00:53:52.070
and get started with part
C of our presentation.

00:53:52.070 --> 00:53:54.230
So, again, my name is Jean
Devlin, I'm an environmental

00:53:54.230 --> 00:53:56.710
reviewer at the Texas Water
Development Board, and I'll be

00:53:56.710 --> 00:54:00.030
presenting the environmental
information document component

00:54:00.030 --> 00:54:01.370
of this presentation.

00:54:01.370 --> 00:54:06.390
We'll review the federal
environmental review process,

00:54:06.390 --> 00:54:10.750
describe the responsibilities
on our half, and then also

00:54:10.750 --> 00:54:15.230
the responsibilities on your
half, and then we'll go over

00:54:15.270 --> 00:54:16.750
the new EID.

00:54:16.750 --> 00:54:20.297
So, and does everyone have
a copy of the new EID?

00:54:20.297 --> 00:54:23.590
We had printed out some copies,
so if you wanted to go through

00:54:23.590 --> 00:54:27.470
the whole form and have any
specific questions, then we can

00:54:27.470 --> 00:54:28.910
do that at the very end.

00:54:31.045 --> 00:54:34.340
SPEAKER: OK, so before we get
into it entirely, we wanted

00:54:34.340 --> 00:54:42.833
to give you some definitions
and also review the applicant

00:54:42.833 --> 00:54:45.660
requirements for a full
NEPA-like review and then

00:54:45.660 --> 00:54:48.633
the Texas Water Development
Board requirements for a full

00:54:48.633 --> 00:54:49.998
NEPA-like review.

00:54:49.998 --> 00:54:53.900
So the Environmental
Information Document is

00:54:53.900 --> 00:54:56.740
the applicant requirement
for a full NEPA-like review.

00:54:56.980 --> 00:55:00.020
And it's essentially a written
analysis that's prepared by

00:55:00.020 --> 00:55:03.940
the applicant that provides us
with sufficient information

00:55:03.940 --> 00:55:08.300
to determine and justify that
either, one, the project will

00:55:08.300 --> 00:55:11.460
not have significant impact
on the human environment,

00:55:11.460 --> 00:55:14.300
or two, the preparation of
an environmental impact

00:55:14.300 --> 00:55:15.580
assessment is required.

00:55:15.580 --> 00:55:18.580
And the preparation of
an EIS is required under

00:55:18.620 --> 00:55:20.140
certain circumstances.

00:55:20.860 --> 00:55:23.660
I also wanted to point out
that human environment is

00:55:23.660 --> 00:55:25.740
technically everything.

00:55:25.780 --> 00:55:29.340
It's all of Earth, all
potential resources that could

00:55:29.340 --> 00:55:30.990
be potentially impacted.

00:55:30.990 --> 00:55:35.730
And a finding of no significant
impact and environmental

00:55:35.730 --> 00:55:38.850
assessment are Texas Water
Development Board requirements

00:55:38.890 --> 00:55:40.330
for a NEPA-like review.

00:55:40.570 --> 00:55:44.330
So a Finding of No
Significant Impact, or FNSI,

00:55:44.330 --> 00:55:48.250
is a legal binding document
that's issued by the Texas

00:55:48.250 --> 00:55:51.370
Water Development Board,
and it presents the reasons

00:55:51.370 --> 00:55:54.450
why an action will not
have significant impact on

00:55:54.450 --> 00:55:55.570
the human environment.

00:55:55.570 --> 00:55:59.330
It must also be supported by
an environmental assessment.

00:55:59.330 --> 00:56:00.970
And that's something
that we draft.

00:56:02.050 --> 00:56:04.490
And we'll discuss
environmental assessment

00:56:04.770 --> 00:56:07.650
on your behalf a little bit
later and the reasons why

00:56:07.650 --> 00:56:11.259
we're no longer accepting
them for Clean Water State

00:56:11.259 --> 00:56:13.010
Revolving Fund projects.

00:56:13.010 --> 00:56:15.970
And the environmental
assessment that we draft

00:56:16.010 --> 00:56:18.690
is based on the EID that's
submitted by the applicant.

00:56:18.890 --> 00:56:21.930
So it's an analysis that
provides sufficient evidence

00:56:21.930 --> 00:56:24.170
for determining whether
or not the preparation of

00:56:24.170 --> 00:56:28.490
an EIS is required or
if we can issue a FNSI.

00:56:28.490 --> 00:56:31.730
And it also includes
details about the project,

00:56:31.770 --> 00:56:34.610
the alternatives that are being
considered, the environment

00:56:34.610 --> 00:56:38.400
in which the project is
located in, any regulatory

00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:42.890
agency recommendations, public
participation which our public

00:56:42.890 --> 00:56:44.690
participation requirements
have recently changed,

00:56:46.810 --> 00:56:50.570
and any mitigation measures
that you are considering to

00:56:50.610 --> 00:56:53.650
deem the project's
impacts insignificant.

00:56:57.610 --> 00:57:01.690
So, in the Texas Administrative
Code, Title 31, Part 10, we

00:57:01.690 --> 00:57:06.170
have all of the Texas Water
Development Board regulations.

00:57:07.250 --> 00:57:12.090
And under Chapter 371, we
have the Drinking Water

00:57:12.090 --> 00:57:14.450
State Revolving Fund Rules.

00:57:14.450 --> 00:57:18.690
And under Chapter 375, we
have the Clean Water State

00:57:18.690 --> 00:57:19.597
Revolving Fund Rules.

00:57:19.597 --> 00:57:22.810
And the Drinking Water
program is specifically for

00:57:22.970 --> 00:57:24.450
drinking water programs.

00:57:24.490 --> 00:57:26.810
The Clean Water is for
wastewater projects.

00:57:26.970 --> 00:57:29.760
And we're not going to go
into detail over this,

00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:31.920
but I just wanted to
make you aware of where

00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:33.520
the regulations are located.

00:57:33.520 --> 00:57:36.760
And if you're interested
in reading more about what

00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.680
exactly is required, then
you can reference this.

00:57:42.600 --> 00:57:45.680
And because of the Water
Resources Reform

00:57:45.680 --> 00:57:50.400
and Development Act or WRRDA
of 2014, there is no longer

00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:54.280
a difference in environmental
review for clean water state

00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:57.680
revolving fund equivalency
and non-equivalency projects.

00:57:57.720 --> 00:58:01.360
So previously, an environmental
assessment was accepted.

00:58:01.520 --> 00:58:04.800
But now we're going to
require the submission of

00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:06.800
an EID for both projects.

00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:14.200
So sometimes a project
qualifies, it needs an EID

00:58:14.200 --> 00:58:15.240
and sometimes it doesn't.

00:58:15.240 --> 00:58:18.400
And I figured it might be
better if we discuss when

00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:20.027
an EID is not required.

00:58:20.027 --> 00:58:23.760
So it's not required
if the project is eligible

00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:25.680
for a categorical exclusion.

00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:29.640
So William described
the circumstances under which

00:58:29.680 --> 00:58:32.400
a project might qualify for
a categorical exclusion, in

00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:34.430
which case you will not
need to provide an EID.

00:58:35.370 --> 00:58:39.960
If the project has potentially
significant adverse impacts

00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:44.320
and it requires the preparation
of an EIS, then you would not

00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:45.640
need to do the EID.

00:58:45.640 --> 00:58:49.840
So the EIS sort of supersedes
the need for that, and it

00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:52.600
would provide more detailed
information on the project.

00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:58.720
And usually, an EIS is only
required on large-scale projects

00:58:58.720 --> 00:59:03.240
like reservoir projects or
interbasin transfer projects.

00:59:03.240 --> 00:59:10.680
And an EIS would be
required by the USACE or US

00:59:10.680 --> 00:59:11.880
Army Corps of Engineers.

00:59:12.240 --> 00:59:15.200
And so we would just
adopt their finding based

00:59:15.200 --> 00:59:17.787
off of the document that
you prepare for them.

00:59:17.787 --> 00:59:21.920
If the applicant prepares
and submits a draft EIS

00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.870
and supporting documents, you
do not need to provide an EID.

00:59:26.910 --> 00:59:30.070
If a federal agency had
previously issued a FNSI or

00:59:30.070 --> 00:59:32.870
a record of determination
that's in compliance with

00:59:32.870 --> 00:59:36.510
NEPA, that was completed for
the project within five years,

00:59:36.790 --> 00:59:39.817
and also meets the Texas Water
Development Board program

00:59:39.817 --> 00:59:42.537
requirements, then an EID
wouldn't be required.

00:59:42.537 --> 00:59:46.230
And then finally, if a project
is funded through state

00:59:46.230 --> 00:59:49.603
funding, then you do not
need to prepare an EID.

00:59:49.603 --> 00:59:51.750
You would prepare
a different form for that.

00:59:51.790 --> 00:59:54.710
And that's an EDF or
environmental data form.

00:59:54.910 --> 00:59:57.830
And we can go over that at
the end of the presentation

00:59:57.870 --> 01:00:03.870
and describe how the steps
vary on the state level

01:00:03.870 --> 01:00:05.190
versus the federal level.

01:00:07.030 --> 01:00:08.830
So why the change?

01:00:08.990 --> 01:00:12.941
Why did we decide
to make a new EID?

01:00:12.941 --> 01:00:16.030
Firstly, it clarifies
the requirements on

01:00:16.030 --> 01:00:17.150
the behalf of the client.

01:00:17.190 --> 01:00:21.430
So we are asking for some
very specific information.

01:00:21.430 --> 01:00:24.420
And previously, there were two
general guidance documents

01:00:24.420 --> 01:00:27.100
that were available, one for
the Clean Water and one for

01:00:27.100 --> 01:00:27.949
the Drinking Water.

01:00:27.949 --> 01:00:30.753
So now there's no longer
a general guidance document.

01:00:30.753 --> 01:00:34.380
The form is
the guidance document.

01:00:34.660 --> 01:00:38.400
And so here you can see
a picture of two EIDs

01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:41.300
that were given to us.

01:00:41.940 --> 01:00:46.020
And one is slightly
smaller than the other.

01:00:46.020 --> 01:00:49.700
Not necessarily a bad thing,
but it just sort of shows that

01:00:49.940 --> 01:00:54.700
the level of information that's
been provided has either been

01:00:55.020 --> 01:00:58.900
somewhat insufficient, or we've
been given more than enough

01:00:58.900 --> 01:01:01.740
information that goes above
and beyond our requirements.

01:01:01.740 --> 01:01:08.460
So we're trying to make it
a little bit easier on you so

01:01:08.460 --> 01:01:11.620
you understand what exactly
is required on your behalf.

01:01:11.620 --> 01:01:15.073
And you don't have to provide
additional information.

01:01:15.073 --> 01:01:21.940
So it also satisfies the level
of environmental analysis that's

01:01:22.140 --> 01:01:25.860
commensurate with the potential
impacts of the project.

01:01:25.860 --> 01:01:29.060
Within the EID, we have
an environmental analysis

01:01:29.060 --> 01:01:32.767
section where you describe
the impacts of the no-action

01:01:32.767 --> 01:01:35.060
alternative, and you also
describe the impacts of

01:01:35.100 --> 01:01:37.180
an alternative that
was not selected.

01:01:37.540 --> 01:01:39.540
And then you also provide
information for your

01:01:39.540 --> 01:01:42.260
preferred alternative
and describe why you chose

01:01:42.260 --> 01:01:43.673
that preferred alternative.

01:01:43.673 --> 01:01:47.460
This new form also helps
you determine when agency

01:01:47.460 --> 01:01:48.900
coordination is required.

01:01:49.220 --> 01:01:53.260
So at the end, it has
a checklist that helps you

01:01:53.260 --> 01:01:57.140
determine whether or not you
need to coordinate with the US

01:01:57.140 --> 01:02:00.500
Department of Agriculture
or the General Land Office.

01:02:00.500 --> 01:02:06.460
Some of the other agencies may
not necessarily need to be

01:02:06.700 --> 01:02:08.873
contacted for every project.

01:02:08.873 --> 01:02:12.380
And it might just be
specific to that project.

01:02:12.900 --> 01:02:15.580
And again, this form
avoids requesting

01:02:15.620 --> 01:02:17.100
unnecessary information.

01:02:17.100 --> 01:02:19.940
So it's going to reduce
the preparation time on

01:02:19.940 --> 01:02:23.530
the applicant side, and then
also reduce the review time on

01:02:23.530 --> 01:02:26.130
the Texas Water Development
Board side because we'll be

01:02:26.130 --> 01:02:29.170
able to clearly see whether
or not there's information

01:02:29.170 --> 01:02:31.810
missing, and we'll be able
to request supplementary

01:02:32.250 --> 01:02:34.690
materials if that's necessary.

01:02:37.050 --> 01:02:39.690
So how has the EID changed?

01:02:39.690 --> 01:02:41.610
It's one form.

01:02:41.650 --> 01:02:44.948
Like I said before, it will be
used for both the Clean Water

01:02:44.948 --> 01:02:48.284
and the Drinking Water State
Revolving Fund programs.

01:02:48.284 --> 01:02:52.330
It's now a fillable
template, so there is no

01:02:52.330 --> 01:02:53.610
general guidance document.

01:02:53.610 --> 01:02:57.250
You'll just refer to this
particular template and provide

01:02:57.250 --> 01:03:00.303
us with a copy of that completed
for your specific project.

01:03:00.303 --> 01:03:05.930
It also clarifies the required
information instead of just

01:03:05.930 --> 01:03:09.690
giving general examples that
were provided in the general

01:03:09.690 --> 01:03:13.130
guidance document and saying,
we need information on this

01:03:13.130 --> 01:03:15.530
resource, this resource,
and this resource, we're asking

01:03:15.530 --> 01:03:18.810
for very specific information
for very specific resources.

01:03:20.930 --> 01:03:24.157
A public meeting is now required
instead of a public hearing.

01:03:24.157 --> 01:03:28.810
So the requirements for
a public meeting aren't

01:03:28.850 --> 01:03:32.130
nearly as stringent as
those for a public hearing.

01:03:32.770 --> 01:03:34.850
And we'll sort of go over
the requirements for

01:03:34.850 --> 01:03:36.250
a public meeting later on.

01:03:36.650 --> 01:03:39.570
And also for cross-cutter
compliance, it will

01:03:39.610 --> 01:03:42.490
identify when agency
coordination is required.

01:03:45.050 --> 01:03:50.930
So we wanted to give you some
advice on how to ensure that

01:03:50.930 --> 01:03:54.143
your environmental review
process goes smoothly.

01:03:54.143 --> 01:03:58.890
Firstly, you need to provide
a project description that

01:03:58.890 --> 01:04:01.850
includes a bulleted list
of the project components.

01:04:02.010 --> 01:04:05.610
So sometimes people
interchange the purpose

01:04:05.610 --> 01:04:08.810
and need of the project
with a project description.

01:04:09.330 --> 01:04:12.970
The project description
is where you say what

01:04:13.010 --> 01:04:14.330
exactly you're doing.

01:04:14.490 --> 01:04:18.320
We are planning on building
a new wastewater treatment

01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:23.400
facility in the northwest corner
of the city versus we need

01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:27.080
this because our population is
increasing and we need to be

01:04:27.080 --> 01:04:28.840
able to service a larger area.

01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.000
That would be describing
the purpose and need of

01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:32.027
the project.

01:04:32.027 --> 01:04:36.760
Provide all of the environmental
documentation in a timely

01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:40.200
manner, and this includes
agency coordination and any

01:04:40.200 --> 01:04:42.880
recommendations that you
receive from those agencies.

01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:46.187
So the faster that we can get
that sort of information,

01:04:46.853 --> 01:04:50.640
the sooner we can move along
with our review process.

01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:54.880
Respond to comments
and questions quickly within

01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:57.520
the deadline that's assigned
by the environmental reviewer.

01:04:57.640 --> 01:05:00.280
So usually, if we have any
comments or questions,

01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:05.680
we'll email you and ask you
to respond within 14 days.

01:05:06.200 --> 01:05:11.680
So if at any point that's
not feasible, like if you

01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:15.280
still need to coordinate with
another agency, then just

01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:18.350
notify your environmental
reviewer and let them know this

01:05:18.350 --> 01:05:21.430
is the anticipated date that
we might have this information

01:05:21.430 --> 01:05:24.070
available to give to you,
and then you can work with

01:05:24.070 --> 01:05:27.670
your environmental reviewer
to continue along with our

01:05:27.670 --> 01:05:29.150
internal review process.

01:05:29.910 --> 01:05:33.950
And please notify us
if the project footprint or

01:05:33.950 --> 01:05:35.390
the components have changed.

01:05:35.630 --> 01:05:39.070
I know projects change
pretty quickly, and it might

01:05:39.070 --> 01:05:43.430
be one alignment one week
and three completely different

01:05:43.430 --> 01:05:45.217
alignments in the next week.

01:05:45.217 --> 01:05:50.070
Once you have a very good idea
of your alternatives, just

01:05:50.070 --> 01:05:52.870
provide all of the alternatives
that are being considered for

01:05:52.870 --> 01:05:53.390
the project.

01:05:53.430 --> 01:05:57.630
It's better to get clearance
for a more broad scope than

01:05:57.630 --> 01:06:00.683
to assume that you're going
with one particular alternative

01:06:00.683 --> 01:06:03.430
and then end up choosing
a separate alternative at

01:06:03.430 --> 01:06:05.750
the end and having to go
through the whole environmental

01:06:05.750 --> 01:06:10.790
review process again, because
our clearance is for a very

01:06:10.790 --> 01:06:14.390
specific project and a very
specific location with

01:06:14.550 --> 01:06:17.550
very specific construction
techniques and whatnot.

01:06:18.950 --> 01:06:21.670
So if that changes, then it
can delay the whole review

01:06:21.670 --> 01:06:24.510
process, and we definitely
don't want that to happen.

01:06:24.510 --> 01:06:28.270
So open communication
is very important.

01:06:28.270 --> 01:06:33.470
Publish notification of your
meeting at least 30 days prior

01:06:33.470 --> 01:06:36.990
to the meeting, and a newspaper
within general circulation in

01:06:36.990 --> 01:06:38.190
the project area.

01:06:38.790 --> 01:06:40.550
30 days is very important.

01:06:40.590 --> 01:06:42.137
It can't be 29 days.

01:06:42.137 --> 01:06:45.050
And if for any reason you
accidentally miscalculate,

01:06:45.050 --> 01:06:48.150
and sometimes it happens,
we understand that.

01:06:48.150 --> 01:06:50.550
But give yourself
a little bit of a buffer.

01:06:50.990 --> 01:06:55.083
It's one of those laws that
we have to hold ourselves to.

01:06:55.083 --> 01:06:57.270
It's not necessarily a choice.

01:06:57.310 --> 01:06:59.070
It's a requirement.

01:07:00.310 --> 01:07:03.950
And also for your public
meeting, collect all

01:07:03.950 --> 01:07:07.230
the public meeting
documentation that's required.

01:07:07.270 --> 01:07:09.270
So that includes
a publisher's affidavit

01:07:09.270 --> 01:07:12.653
and a copy of the public
meeting notice, a statement

01:07:12.653 --> 01:07:15.940
signed by the applicant,
a list of witnesses which

01:07:15.940 --> 01:07:19.140
could just be a sign-in
sheet, and a written summary.

01:07:20.460 --> 01:07:25.600
And here is the link for
the new EID template.

01:07:25.600 --> 01:07:30.700
So there is text that's
highlighted in yellow.

01:07:30.980 --> 01:07:34.513
And that text is something
that can be edited.

01:07:34.513 --> 01:07:40.593
So this is a partially secured
document and everything else.

01:07:40.593 --> 01:07:44.500
The general information that's
provided at the very beginning

01:07:44.500 --> 01:07:47.580
of the document is really just
for some extra clarification.

01:07:47.780 --> 01:07:52.700
It describes the general
timeline for the EID, when you

01:07:52.700 --> 01:07:58.220
should expect response from
an environmental reviewer, or

01:07:58.260 --> 01:08:00.940
how long you think this
whole process might take.

01:08:01.740 --> 01:08:03.740
It also describes
the differences between

01:08:03.740 --> 01:08:07.113
direct, secondary, or
cumulative impacts.

01:08:07.113 --> 01:08:13.287
And we'll discuss those a little
bit later on getting into that.

01:08:13.287 --> 01:08:18.780
So William described
the application phase

01:08:18.820 --> 01:08:22.900
and the state environmental
review process, and we're

01:08:22.900 --> 01:08:26.100
going to move into the federal
environmental review process.

01:08:26.100 --> 01:08:29.287
So it starts out
very much the same.

01:08:29.287 --> 01:08:32.940
An application is prepared
and submitted to the Texas Water

01:08:32.940 --> 01:08:34.829
Development Board for review.

01:08:34.829 --> 01:08:38.220
And we determine the level
of review required for

01:08:38.220 --> 01:08:39.900
each project component.

01:08:39.940 --> 01:08:43.380
So we evaluate the project
schedule, the budget, any

01:08:43.380 --> 01:08:44.473
draft contracts.

01:08:44.473 --> 01:08:47.860
And then we prepare
a commitment memo, and we send

01:08:47.860 --> 01:08:51.220
it to the board stating either
we think that this qualifies

01:08:51.220 --> 01:08:55.980
for a CE or we think that
we might need to do a full

01:08:55.980 --> 01:08:58.580
environmental review, in
which case an environmental

01:08:58.580 --> 01:09:01.007
information document
needs to be completed.

01:09:01.007 --> 01:09:04.060
And we move on from there.

01:09:05.060 --> 01:09:10.330
So here's the general
timeline for a full federal

01:09:10.330 --> 01:09:11.450
environmental review.

01:09:11.970 --> 01:09:15.850
So you, as the applicant, would
prepare the EID template,

01:09:15.850 --> 01:09:19.810
which includes filling out
the form, completing the public

01:09:19.810 --> 01:09:23.930
participation and coordination
with regulatory agencies or

01:09:23.930 --> 01:09:27.970
other interested parties,
and also submit the EID to

01:09:27.970 --> 01:09:29.850
the Texas Water
Development Board.

01:09:30.290 --> 01:09:33.650
From there, we receive the EID
and review the document.

01:09:33.890 --> 01:09:36.090
We prepare a list of
deficiencies and send

01:09:36.090 --> 01:09:37.370
the comments back to the client.

01:09:37.370 --> 01:09:39.890
And sometimes there aren't
any deficiencies, in which

01:09:39.890 --> 01:09:41.250
case that's awesome.

01:09:41.290 --> 01:09:42.503
That's what we want.

01:09:42.503 --> 01:09:47.010
In the instance that we do need
additional information to help

01:09:47.010 --> 01:09:54.230
us determine whether or not this
project can have a FNSI issued,

01:09:54.230 --> 01:10:00.050
then we'll ask for supplementary
materials and review those.

01:10:00.730 --> 01:10:02.343
From there, we issue a FNSI.

01:10:02.343 --> 01:10:05.326
So we will prepare the FNSI
and the supporting EA.

01:10:05.326 --> 01:10:09.200
And then we'll route the draft
throughout our team.

01:10:09.440 --> 01:10:12.080
So that includes the team
manager, the engineer,

01:10:12.120 --> 01:10:13.640
the attorney, and the director.

01:10:14.480 --> 01:10:17.600
And then we'll make any
requested revisions based off

01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:19.000
of the comments of the team.

01:10:19.480 --> 01:10:22.120
From there, we can issue
the FNSI, and we'll mail

01:10:22.120 --> 01:10:25.720
that to regulatory agencies
and other interested parties.

01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.320
We move into a public
comment period, in which

01:10:29.080 --> 01:10:33.773
instance you'll have 30 days
to comment on the FNSI.

01:10:33.773 --> 01:10:37.720
And then we need to go back
to the board for affirmation.

01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:43.440
So it's basically stating, yes,
you can release the acquisition

01:10:43.440 --> 01:10:46.640
design and construction funds
because this project has

01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.000
undergone the environmental
clearance that it needs to.

01:10:53.320 --> 01:10:56.400
So here we have
the timeline shown in

01:10:56.400 --> 01:10:58.187
a slightly different way.

01:10:58.187 --> 01:11:02.040
So first you submit
the application.

01:11:02.400 --> 01:11:06.120
Then the staff drafts the memo
and provides that to the board.

01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:09.600
And then at the board meeting,
you receive a loan commitment.

01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:15.880
And it's here that you make
that distinction whether or not

01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:17.840
an affirmation is required.

01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:21.040
So an affirmation is not
required for a CE or a FNSI

01:11:21.040 --> 01:11:24.640
that's issued before the loan
commitment, but it is required

01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:28.587
if a CE or a FNSI is issued
after the loan commitment.

01:11:28.587 --> 01:11:34.160
Then you move into the loan
closing and the planning

01:11:34.200 --> 01:11:35.440
phase from there.

01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.000
And the environmental
review process can happen

01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:42.040
anywhere between when you
submit the application

01:11:42.040 --> 01:11:43.400
and the planning phase.

01:11:44.480 --> 01:11:47.120
Once the planning phase is
complete, you can move on into

01:11:47.120 --> 01:11:49.391
your design construction phase.

01:11:49.391 --> 01:11:54.280
But funding can only be
distributed during certain times

01:11:54.280 --> 01:11:56.160
within this whole process.

01:11:56.320 --> 01:11:59.800
So your first planning money
is going to become available

01:11:59.960 --> 01:12:01.627
after the loan closing.

01:12:01.627 --> 01:12:06.350
And then from there, your
design money will come

01:12:06.350 --> 01:12:08.150
in during the design
phase, and construction

01:12:08.150 --> 01:12:10.310
money will come in during
the construction phase.

01:12:10.350 --> 01:12:14.317
But really, your planning
money or your...

01:12:14.317 --> 01:12:14.993
Excuse me.

01:12:14.993 --> 01:12:18.070
The design and construction
funds cannot be released

01:12:18.070 --> 01:12:20.990
until the environmental
review process is complete.

01:12:20.990 --> 01:12:24.790
And the environmental
review process is rolled

01:12:24.790 --> 01:12:26.230
into the planning phase.

01:12:26.550 --> 01:12:30.510
So you can receive some money
to do the environmental work

01:12:30.510 --> 01:12:32.710
that is necessary beforehand.

01:12:35.590 --> 01:12:41.070
So now we move into
the review of the EID itself.

01:12:41.230 --> 01:12:45.470
This is just a general list
of sections, and we'll go

01:12:45.470 --> 01:12:49.630
through these one by one,
not necessarily hitting

01:12:49.630 --> 01:12:54.310
every page in its entirety,
but really highlighting

01:12:54.350 --> 01:12:56.670
the key information that we're
going to be looking for.

01:12:57.630 --> 01:13:01.005
So we'll start with Section
1, General Information.

01:13:01.005 --> 01:13:05.180
Much of this information
is it's probably stuff

01:13:05.180 --> 01:13:08.780
that you had already given
to us in your application.

01:13:09.460 --> 01:13:11.940
However, we want you to
also provide it here in

01:13:11.940 --> 01:13:15.900
the general information section
because the EID is a separate

01:13:15.900 --> 01:13:18.380
functioning document from
the application that you're

01:13:18.380 --> 01:13:21.127
going to be making publicly
available for comment.

01:13:21.127 --> 01:13:26.340
So you'll provide information
on the authority, the Texas

01:13:26.340 --> 01:13:28.740
Water Development Board project
number that was issued for

01:13:28.740 --> 01:13:31.660
the project, the name of
the project and the counties in

01:13:31.660 --> 01:13:33.260
which the project is located.

01:13:33.260 --> 01:13:35.940
Sometimes this might be
more than one county,

01:13:35.940 --> 01:13:37.260
and that's perfectly fine.

01:13:37.780 --> 01:13:39.140
And then from here,
you'll provide other

01:13:39.140 --> 01:13:40.553
supplementary information.

01:13:40.553 --> 01:13:45.500
For the primary contact
information, this is the person

01:13:45.500 --> 01:13:47.980
that the environmental reviewer
is more than likely going to

01:13:47.980 --> 01:13:51.220
be contacting if they need
any supplementary materials.

01:13:51.500 --> 01:13:54.660
So this person needs to be
sure that they are available

01:13:54.660 --> 01:13:57.500
and capable of providing
those additional materials.

01:13:57.620 --> 01:14:01.100
And if there's another person
that can be contacted in

01:14:01.100 --> 01:14:03.820
the event that the primary
contact is not reached,

01:14:04.780 --> 01:14:08.580
then you can provide that
additional information below.

01:14:09.820 --> 01:14:13.100
We wanted to be sure that you
know this template does not

01:14:13.100 --> 01:14:17.900
replace the necessity to submit
a regulatory permit application

01:14:17.900 --> 01:14:21.540
to USACE or any other regulatory
agencies when applicable.

01:14:21.940 --> 01:14:24.940
So projects that are funded
through the Clean Water

01:14:24.940 --> 01:14:28.000
and the Drinking Water State
Revolving Fund must comply with

01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:32.100
NEPA and EPA regulations because
our money comes from EPA.

01:14:32.540 --> 01:14:35.020
So that's a requirement
of theirs that we need to

01:14:35.060 --> 01:14:39.060
satisfy in order to give
you your federal funds.

01:14:39.100 --> 01:14:42.540
So we're not overriding
any agency's permitting

01:14:42.540 --> 01:14:43.393
requirements.

01:14:43.393 --> 01:14:46.740
We're going to be
adopting their findings.

01:14:46.740 --> 01:14:49.980
If they say that you need
to do something like do

01:14:49.980 --> 01:14:56.220
a migratory bird survey, or
if you need to mitigate for

01:14:56.220 --> 01:15:00.260
a wetland loss, then those are
things that we will adopt into

01:15:00.450 --> 01:15:04.610
our finding, and you'll be
held to their recommendations.

01:15:05.210 --> 01:15:07.530
And again, acquisition,
design, and construction

01:15:07.530 --> 01:15:11.370
funds cannot be released until
environmental review has

01:15:11.370 --> 01:15:15.810
been complete and a favorable
determination has been issued.

01:15:18.450 --> 01:15:21.810
So here in Section 2, we have
our list of attachments.

01:15:21.970 --> 01:15:25.210
And this provides an overview
of all of the maps that

01:15:25.850 --> 01:15:28.623
will be required for
the completion of the EID.

01:15:28.623 --> 01:15:31.170
So essentially, this
section serves as a table

01:15:31.170 --> 01:15:36.570
of contents for Section 9,
which is the appendices.

01:15:36.850 --> 01:15:40.050
And that's where you'll
attach all of your maps

01:15:40.330 --> 01:15:42.850
and coordination
with your agencies.

01:15:42.850 --> 01:15:45.930
So here we just have
the standard maps.

01:15:45.930 --> 01:15:49.130
We also have a whole bunch
of other maps that may or

01:15:49.130 --> 01:15:52.757
may not be required based
off of the project location.

01:15:52.757 --> 01:15:57.610
So we're going to go over
a couple of examples of

01:15:57.610 --> 01:16:02.330
what a good map looks like
just to give you a visual

01:16:02.330 --> 01:16:03.530
of what we're looking for.

01:16:03.570 --> 01:16:08.010
So in our first example, we
have a regional location map.

01:16:08.650 --> 01:16:12.570
And here, the project area
is clearly outlined in red.

01:16:13.090 --> 01:16:17.210
We see the counties
are clearly labeled.

01:16:17.490 --> 01:16:20.930
We have a transportation
layer so we can identify

01:16:20.970 --> 01:16:22.570
the adjacent roads.

01:16:22.570 --> 01:16:25.130
And if we need to look it
up in Google Earth, then we

01:16:25.130 --> 01:16:28.490
can identify the project
location quite clearly.

01:16:28.810 --> 01:16:33.130
And also up in the left-hand
corner, you'll see state of

01:16:33.130 --> 01:16:36.130
Texas with a star on
top of the county.

01:16:36.170 --> 01:16:40.010
So we have a general idea of
what region this particular

01:16:40.010 --> 01:16:41.570
project is located in.

01:16:42.930 --> 01:16:46.743
It's also important to include
a north arrow and a scale bar.

01:16:46.743 --> 01:16:49.352
Sometimes those
things are left out.

01:16:49.352 --> 01:16:53.090
But if your project has
an orientation on your

01:16:53.090 --> 01:16:56.250
map other than true
north, that's important

01:16:56.250 --> 01:16:58.000
information for us to know.

01:17:01.080 --> 01:17:03.360
The second example that
we have is of a USGS

01:17:03.400 --> 01:17:08.173
topographic map with planned
improvements over Leon.

01:17:08.173 --> 01:17:12.200
So a USGS topographic
map gives us some very

01:17:12.200 --> 01:17:13.560
important information.

01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:17.000
Not only does it provide
streets and the topography of

01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:22.600
the area, but it also identifies
cemeteries and wetlands,

01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:25.200
potentially jurisdictional
waters of the US.

01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:28.520
So it gives us some really good
contextual clues as to what's

01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:30.040
going on in that region.

01:17:32.360 --> 01:17:35.480
And our last example is
of a floodplain map.

01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:39.760
So here we have the wastewater
service area outlined.

01:17:40.240 --> 01:17:43.040
And all of the proposed
improvements are clearly

01:17:43.040 --> 01:17:44.373
shown in the map.

01:17:44.373 --> 01:17:48.733
We have potentially
jurisdictional waters,

01:17:48.733 --> 01:17:52.760
streams identified, and then
the floodplain is included.

01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:56.910
And so we're able to
clearly identify which

01:17:56.910 --> 01:17:59.630
portions of your project
intersect the floodplain.

01:18:03.830 --> 01:18:06.430
So this is a continuation
of the list of attachments.

01:18:06.430 --> 01:18:07.750
Some of these may be required.

01:18:07.750 --> 01:18:09.150
Some of them may
not be required.

01:18:09.150 --> 01:18:11.377
It really just depends
on the project.

01:18:11.377 --> 01:18:16.666
But for sensitive biological
and cultural resources

01:18:16.666 --> 01:18:20.990
information, like location of
archeological sites, location

01:18:20.990 --> 01:18:23.870
of endangered species,
habitat, if we're working

01:18:23.870 --> 01:18:27.630
in karst regions, locations
of caves, that's information

01:18:27.630 --> 01:18:30.310
that you do not want to
include in the publicly

01:18:30.310 --> 01:18:32.652
available version of the EID.

01:18:32.652 --> 01:18:37.270
You don't necessarily want
someone to attend the public

01:18:37.270 --> 01:18:41.670
meeting, read the EID, realize
that this sensitive information

01:18:41.670 --> 01:18:44.830
has been included,and then
go explore it the next day.

01:18:46.030 --> 01:18:48.990
People are curious, and so we
just want to be respectful of

01:18:48.990 --> 01:18:51.350
that sensitive information
and be sure that it doesn't

01:18:51.350 --> 01:18:52.910
fall into the wrong hands.

01:18:56.470 --> 01:18:59.670
So in Section 3, we begin
to describe the project.

01:18:59.950 --> 01:19:02.590
So you'll provide some
general background

01:19:02.590 --> 01:19:03.950
information on the project.

01:19:03.950 --> 01:19:07.750
You can describe the existing
system, or if it's a brand

01:19:07.750 --> 01:19:10.910
new project, then you can
describe the proposed system.

01:19:11.550 --> 01:19:14.910
You'll give the project location
and provide the latitude

01:19:14.910 --> 01:19:16.510
and longitude of the project.

01:19:16.630 --> 01:19:21.550
If the project is, say, within
an entire county, you want

01:19:21.590 --> 01:19:25.097
clearance for a county, just
provide the central point

01:19:25.097 --> 01:19:27.270
where the project is located.

01:19:28.310 --> 01:19:32.190
Describe why the project is
needed and how that project

01:19:32.190 --> 01:19:34.950
addresses that need in
the purpose and need section.

01:19:35.350 --> 01:19:37.230
And then in the project
description, you'll

01:19:37.230 --> 01:19:40.190
describe the project in
very specific terms.

01:19:40.550 --> 01:19:43.710
So again, we want to construct
a new wastewater treatment

01:19:43.710 --> 01:19:47.700
plant in the northwest corner
of the city, or we want to

01:19:47.700 --> 01:19:51.950
upgrade 10,000 linear feet of
existing pipelines because

01:19:51.950 --> 01:19:55.060
they're failing, those would
be good examples of good

01:19:55.060 --> 01:19:56.340
project descriptions.

01:19:57.780 --> 01:19:59.900
In the form, you'll indicate
whether or not the project

01:19:59.940 --> 01:20:03.340
requires sludge, soil,
or waste disposal.

01:20:03.900 --> 01:20:06.500
And you'll also provide
a bulleted list of

01:20:06.500 --> 01:20:07.500
project components.

01:20:07.500 --> 01:20:12.220
So we're installing 1,000 linear
feet of a new six-inch pipeline

01:20:12.220 --> 01:20:13.580
in an existing right of way.

01:20:13.580 --> 01:20:18.540
Or we're planning on
installing 20 new fire

01:20:18.540 --> 01:20:21.340
hydrants throughout the city,
and you'll show the locations

01:20:21.340 --> 01:20:23.000
of those fire hydrants on
a map that you provide.

01:20:25.500 --> 01:20:27.900
Within the project magnitude,
you'll describe the current

01:20:27.900 --> 01:20:31.940
population in the service area,
the anticipated population in

01:20:31.940 --> 01:20:35.300
the service area in 20 years,
and whether or not the project

01:20:35.300 --> 01:20:38.740
is going to serve that
expected population increase.

01:20:38.780 --> 01:20:43.020
So the project is designed
for year X, and it's designed

01:20:43.020 --> 01:20:46.680
to serve a population
of Y, essentially.

01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:51.540
Within this section,
there's certain components

01:20:51.540 --> 01:20:54.420
of a project schedule
that are being requested.

01:20:54.420 --> 01:20:57.620
Just provide all applicable
elements of the project

01:20:57.620 --> 01:20:58.660
schedule listed.

01:20:59.340 --> 01:21:02.020
Provide an estimated
cost of the project.

01:21:02.300 --> 01:21:04.900
This could either be the total
loan amount that you're

01:21:04.900 --> 01:21:07.940
asking for through the Texas
Water Development Board, or

01:21:07.980 --> 01:21:10.100
if you've received additional
funding, it's going to be

01:21:10.100 --> 01:21:11.660
the combination of the two.

01:21:12.820 --> 01:21:15.540
And then describe any other
projects in progress that might

01:21:15.540 --> 01:21:17.540
affect the proposed project.

01:21:17.580 --> 01:21:21.180
So if TxDOT is proposing to
build a road that's 50ft

01:21:21.180 --> 01:21:23.420
away from your project,
that's probably something

01:21:23.420 --> 01:21:24.500
that you want to note.

01:21:27.100 --> 01:21:30.420
In Section 4, we move into
our alternatives analysis.

01:21:30.660 --> 01:21:32.740
So again, at the very
beginning of the document, we

01:21:32.740 --> 01:21:36.967
describe what direct impacts,
secondary or indirect impacts

01:21:36.967 --> 01:21:38.940
are, and cumulative impacts.

01:21:39.300 --> 01:21:42.620
So direct impacts on
the environment are

01:21:42.620 --> 01:21:45.540
the effects on the environment
that occur at the same time

01:21:45.940 --> 01:21:47.780
and place as the project.

01:21:47.820 --> 01:21:51.730
This is not just the engineering
and financial components.

01:21:51.850 --> 01:21:54.890
It also includes impacts
to, say, a stream.

01:21:58.090 --> 01:22:01.210
SPEAKER: Secondary impacts or
indirect impacts are the effects

01:22:01.210 --> 01:22:04.050
on the environment and natural
resources that are more removed

01:22:04.050 --> 01:22:06.730
from time and distance from
the project construction

01:22:06.730 --> 01:22:07.810
and operation activities.

01:22:07.810 --> 01:22:09.810
So, those are things
that sort of happen

01:22:09.810 --> 01:22:11.010
later on down the road.

01:22:12.010 --> 01:22:15.570
And the cumulative impacts,
the effects that result from

01:22:15.570 --> 01:22:18.970
the project's direct impacts
added together with the impacts

01:22:18.970 --> 01:22:23.050
from the past, present
and future projects that can be

01:22:23.050 --> 01:22:24.290
reasonably predicted.

01:22:24.290 --> 01:22:29.250
So, I wanted to use this
stream as an example for

01:22:29.250 --> 01:22:30.890
an alternative analysis.

01:22:30.890 --> 01:22:34.810
So, an example of a direct
impact on the stream.

01:22:35.210 --> 01:22:39.570
If you are proposing to install
a new wastewater line and it

01:22:39.570 --> 01:22:42.490
needed to bisect the stream
and you were planning on

01:22:42.610 --> 01:22:44.890
installing it via open trench.

01:22:45.050 --> 01:22:48.560
Then in this case, the direct
impact on the stream would be

01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:51.080
destruction or disturbance
of aquatic habitat.

01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:55.160
A secondary impact of this
type of project might be

01:22:55.160 --> 01:23:00.520
that a new subdivision is
constructed directly adjacent

01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:04.080
because there's no wastewater
lines available in that area.

01:23:04.080 --> 01:23:06.700
So, the service area
has been extended.

01:23:06.700 --> 01:23:11.960
And the cumulative impact
might be all of the wastewater

01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:15.760
lines within that particular
river basin, leading to higher

01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:18.604
nutrient loads in the streams.

01:23:18.604 --> 01:23:23.760
And so, for your preferred
alternative, you would provide

01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:25.200
that specific information.

01:23:25.200 --> 01:23:29.000
For your No Action
alternative, and your

01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:32.240
alternative is not being
considered, we have a slightly

01:23:32.240 --> 01:23:35.267
different rubric shown here.

01:23:35.267 --> 01:23:39.320
So, this is an example of
the direct impacts rubric for

01:23:39.320 --> 01:23:40.720
the No Action alternative.

01:23:41.320 --> 01:23:44.112
It's very similar for
the Alternative Not Selected.

01:23:44.112 --> 01:23:46.920
But essentially, you're
indicating whether or not

01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:52.776
the direct impacts on the No
Alternative or the Alternative

01:23:52.776 --> 01:23:56.720
Not Selected on all of these
resources are greater than,

01:23:56.720 --> 01:24:00.000
less than, or the same
as the direct impacts of

01:24:00.040 --> 01:24:03.027
the preferred alternative
on that same resource.

01:24:03.027 --> 01:24:09.600
So, for example, you are
evaluating an alternative

01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:10.920
that was not selected.

01:24:11.360 --> 01:24:14.040
And that particular
alternative cost three

01:24:14.040 --> 01:24:18.600
additional streams, bisected
a wetland and would disturb

01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:20.280
endangered species habitat.

01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:24.000
Whereas your preferred
alternative only crosses

01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:27.320
one stream, doesn't bisect
any wetlands, and does

01:24:27.320 --> 01:24:29.920
not go through endangered
species habitat.

01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:33.120
You would simply indicate that
the effect on those particular

01:24:33.120 --> 01:24:37.840
resources are greater than
the preferred alternative.

01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:46.230
So, for the alternative not
considered, we have the option

01:24:46.270 --> 01:24:50.910
of you saying, yes, that that
particular alternative is

01:24:50.910 --> 01:24:57.950
still in consideration if you
have more than one reasonable

01:24:57.990 --> 01:24:59.150
build alternative.

01:24:59.950 --> 01:25:03.110
And so, if you are still
considering this at all,

01:25:03.230 --> 01:25:06.070
please indicate that and note
that the level of detail

01:25:06.070 --> 01:25:08.550
provided for this alternative
needs to be commensurate with

01:25:08.550 --> 01:25:14.030
the level of detail provided
for the preferred alternative

01:25:14.430 --> 01:25:15.630
presented in the document.

01:25:15.630 --> 01:25:17.750
And so, you would need to
work with your environmental

01:25:17.750 --> 01:25:23.603
reviewer to scope the document
appropriately to prevent delays.

01:25:23.603 --> 01:25:28.230
So, going back to the example
of having two reasonable build

01:25:28.230 --> 01:25:32.420
alternatives, you end up going
with build alternative number

01:25:32.420 --> 01:25:35.630
two, but you would had build
alternative number one as your

01:25:35.630 --> 01:25:36.390
preferred.

01:25:36.590 --> 01:25:39.750
Then you have to go all the way
back through that review process

01:25:39.750 --> 01:25:40.990
for that second alternative.

01:25:41.030 --> 01:25:45.630
And it's much, much easier to
get clearance for a larger scope

01:25:45.630 --> 01:25:49.043
rather than have a very narrow
scope and have to backtrack.

01:25:49.043 --> 01:25:54.030
In this section, you'll also
provide the reason why you are

01:25:54.070 --> 01:25:58.330
either accepting or rejecting
that particular alternative.

01:25:58.330 --> 01:26:03.937
And that could either be that
the alternative impacted more

01:26:03.937 --> 01:26:08.550
resources, or if in the case
of the preferred alternative,

01:26:08.590 --> 01:26:09.950
it ends up being cheaper.

01:26:10.470 --> 01:26:12.377
That's perfectly fine too.

01:26:12.377 --> 01:26:16.230
And for your selection of
a preferred alternative,

01:26:16.270 --> 01:26:20.410
you'll discuss why the proposed
project was chosen.

01:26:20.410 --> 01:26:25.630
In section five, we get
into the environmental

01:26:25.630 --> 01:26:28.030
settings impacts
and mitigation component.

01:26:28.030 --> 01:26:32.050
So, this is specific to your
preferred action alternative

01:26:32.050 --> 01:26:34.590
and you're required to
provide information on all

01:26:34.630 --> 01:26:36.657
of these resources.

01:26:36.657 --> 01:26:42.460
So, instead of going through
that section one by one, I just

01:26:42.460 --> 01:26:46.700
wanted to give you an idea of
the types of resources that

01:26:46.700 --> 01:26:50.167
you'll need to analyze for
your preferred alternative.

01:26:50.167 --> 01:26:54.060
Now, we understand that
we're requesting some very

01:26:54.060 --> 01:26:54.960
specific information.

01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:57.540
And I understand that this
text is really small.

01:26:57.580 --> 01:27:01.620
Don't bother in straining your
eyes or anything, but we wanted

01:27:01.620 --> 01:27:07.260
to give you some good resources
that you can turn to if you do

01:27:07.260 --> 01:27:10.820
not know where to find that
particular information.

01:27:11.060 --> 01:27:15.000
And a lot of this information
is available on TNRIS.

01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:18.470
So, we've provided
all of these links.

01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:24.380
And if you have any questions
about how to use the website

01:27:24.420 --> 01:27:28.420
like Web Soil Survey or FEMA
Floodplain map, just give

01:27:28.420 --> 01:27:30.700
your environmental reviewer
a call and we'd be happy to

01:27:30.740 --> 01:27:31.700
walk you through it.

01:27:31.740 --> 01:27:35.900
I understand that you may
have specific resources

01:27:35.900 --> 01:27:39.960
that you generally utilize,
or if you have shapefiles

01:27:39.960 --> 01:27:43.370
that you use in ArcGIS,
that's perfectly fine, too.

01:27:43.610 --> 01:27:48.050
These are just some
recommendations, so that

01:27:48.050 --> 01:27:51.490
way the information that
we're receiving is uniform

01:27:51.530 --> 01:27:53.637
from all of the applicants.

01:27:53.637 --> 01:28:00.210
So, in section 5.13, we describe
the standard mitigation

01:28:00.210 --> 01:28:03.317
precautionary measures
and best management practices.

01:28:03.317 --> 01:28:10.117
So, here you will describe all
of your standard mitigation

01:28:10.117 --> 01:28:13.610
and other best management
practices to be used during

01:28:13.610 --> 01:28:14.930
the construction of the project.

01:28:14.930 --> 01:28:20.250
So, in the case of our stream,
maybe you choose to revegetate

01:28:20.250 --> 01:28:23.770
the temporarily impacted
portions of that stream.

01:28:24.810 --> 01:28:28.050
Other good examples would
be a stormwater pollution

01:28:28.050 --> 01:28:31.090
prevention plan, dust
and siltation control,

01:28:31.090 --> 01:28:35.210
utilizing silt fences, or
establishing original grades

01:28:35.210 --> 01:28:39.010
in the floodplain - anything
that you're considering is

01:28:39.010 --> 01:28:41.800
a best management practice
for that particular project.

01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:46.570
And so, in section 5.14,
we describe the mitigation

01:28:46.570 --> 01:28:48.050
measures specifically.

01:28:48.330 --> 01:28:51.410
And so, you'll describe how
impacts are going to be avoided,

01:28:51.450 --> 01:28:54.770
minimized and mitigated
or compensated for.

01:28:55.250 --> 01:28:57.410
And the information
that's provided should be

01:28:57.410 --> 01:29:01.343
consistent with what was
provided to the regulatory

01:29:01.343 --> 01:29:06.130
agencies and should
incorporate applicable

01:29:06.170 --> 01:29:07.357
agency recommendations.

01:29:07.357 --> 01:29:11.130
So, this is the list that we
are going to end up using to

01:29:11.170 --> 01:29:14.410
develop our conditions for
the environmental determination.

01:29:14.930 --> 01:29:20.343
And here in the form, we have
an example of an impact,

01:29:20.343 --> 01:29:23.610
which is the loss of five
acres of forested wetland.

01:29:23.930 --> 01:29:27.690
Well, USACE is going to
require that you mitigate

01:29:27.690 --> 01:29:30.690
for the loss of those five
acres of forested wetland.

01:29:30.850 --> 01:29:33.890
And so, for your mitigation
measure, you choose to purchase

01:29:34.050 --> 01:29:39.560
ten credits from a wetland
mitigation bank that encompasses

01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:42.573
your project, that has
a service area in your project.

01:29:42.573 --> 01:29:46.120
Another example might
be potential impacts to

01:29:46.160 --> 01:29:47.653
migratory bird species.

01:29:47.653 --> 01:29:54.960
So, Fish and Wildlife requires
that you do not disturb

01:29:54.960 --> 01:29:58.840
or clear vegetation in
an area during breeding

01:29:58.840 --> 01:30:02.160
and nesting season based off of
the Migratory Bird Treaty Act.

01:30:02.480 --> 01:30:06.480
And so, you would simply state
that you would avoid clearing

01:30:06.520 --> 01:30:10.880
activities during the migratory
bird nesting season or conduct

01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:12.347
a nesting survey.

01:30:12.347 --> 01:30:15.600
And the nesting survey
would be conducted by

01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:17.787
a certified biologist.

01:30:17.787 --> 01:30:23.880
So, here in our public
participation component, we

01:30:23.880 --> 01:30:28.040
recognize that we are now
requiring a public meeting as

01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:31.800
opposed to a public hearing,
which is less formal, and it

01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:33.840
does not require
a verbatim transcript.

01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:37.240
It only requires a general
summary of what happened at

01:30:37.280 --> 01:30:38.440
that particular meeting.

01:30:39.240 --> 01:30:42.560
And again, you must notify
the public of the meeting by

01:30:42.560 --> 01:30:45.360
advertisement in a newspaper
of general circulation

01:30:45.360 --> 01:30:49.480
within the project area
at least 30 days prior to

01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:50.520
the date of the meeting.

01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:55.560
And so, here we have
a checklist of the different

01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:58.440
things that are required for
a public meeting notice.

01:30:59.360 --> 01:31:01.680
And just be sure that you
comply with all of those

01:31:02.120 --> 01:31:04.093
particular requirements.

01:31:04.093 --> 01:31:09.720
And for your convenience, we've
included a public meeting

01:31:09.720 --> 01:31:11.493
notice within the document.

01:31:11.493 --> 01:31:16.160
So, this is just a sort of
a plug-and-chug sort of

01:31:17.120 --> 01:31:20.693
template where you would
insert the proper information

01:31:20.693 --> 01:31:24.560
for your specific project,
and then you would send this

01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:28.480
notice to the newspaper
for it to be published.

01:31:28.480 --> 01:31:33.780
And the public meeting
documentation includes

01:31:33.780 --> 01:31:37.430
the publisher's affidavit
and a copy of the notice,

01:31:37.830 --> 01:31:40.110
a statement signed by
the applicant that the meeting

01:31:40.110 --> 01:31:42.780
was held in conformance
with the public meeting

01:31:42.780 --> 01:31:46.283
notice, a list of witnesses
which can just be a sign-in

01:31:46.283 --> 01:31:48.630
sheet, a written summary of
the meeting, which is not

01:31:48.630 --> 01:31:52.150
the same thing as a transcript,
and all adverse comments

01:31:52.150 --> 01:31:56.230
received from the public
meeting, any phone calls, any

01:31:56.230 --> 01:31:59.870
correspondence that you received
from the public, and how those

01:31:59.870 --> 01:32:01.783
comments were addressed.

01:32:01.783 --> 01:32:09.390
In section 7, we move on
into agency coordination,

01:32:09.390 --> 01:32:13.230
and the purpose of this section
is to help you identify when

01:32:13.270 --> 01:32:15.537
agency coordination is required.

01:32:15.537 --> 01:32:20.350
So, the table in section 7 is
meant to serve as a table of

01:32:20.350 --> 01:32:24.470
contents for Appendix C, where
you'll attach all of your agency

01:32:24.510 --> 01:32:27.897
coordination materials there.

01:32:27.897 --> 01:32:33.300
And for your convenience,
we've also provided

01:32:33.300 --> 01:32:36.100
a sample agency notification
and coordination letters.

01:32:36.100 --> 01:32:38.660
So, very similar to
the public meeting notice.

01:32:38.700 --> 01:32:42.580
You insert the appropriate
information and send

01:32:42.980 --> 01:32:45.380
either the notification or
the coordination letter to

01:32:45.420 --> 01:32:46.860
the appropriate agency.

01:32:52.060 --> 01:32:54.140
And in section 8, we
have a certification

01:32:54.140 --> 01:32:57.900
statement whereby you, as
the applicant, signed that to

01:32:57.940 --> 01:32:59.260
the best of your knowledge.

01:32:59.540 --> 01:33:02.500
The document describes
the complete project and no

01:33:02.500 --> 01:33:06.020
other project's stages
or components other than

01:33:06.260 --> 01:33:09.140
those components described
in the document which are

01:33:09.140 --> 01:33:13.047
related to the project as
connected actions or phases.

01:33:13.047 --> 01:33:18.820
And the person signing this
would be the project manager

01:33:18.940 --> 01:33:22.424
for preparation of the EID.

01:33:22.424 --> 01:33:26.807
In section 9, you would include
all of your appendices.

01:33:26.807 --> 01:33:31.460
Appendix A would be the standard
maps that we had listed, and we

01:33:31.700 --> 01:33:34.200
went over what is a good map.

01:33:34.200 --> 01:33:36.740
And appendix B,
the environmental settings,

01:33:36.740 --> 01:33:38.940
impacts and mitigation
attachments, whatever is

01:33:38.940 --> 01:33:40.596
appropriate for the project.

01:33:41.532 --> 01:33:45.900
And so, in summary,
we've reviewed

01:33:45.900 --> 01:33:47.820
the contents of the EID.

01:33:47.820 --> 01:33:51.700
We've reviewed the benefits
of the new EID template,

01:33:51.940 --> 01:33:55.500
the fact that it's going to take
a lot less time to go through

01:33:56.020 --> 01:33:58.940
and clarifies the requirements,
and helps you identify when

01:33:58.980 --> 01:34:01.073
agency coordination is required.

01:34:01.073 --> 01:34:04.980
The changes to the EID,
the fact that it's now

01:34:05.180 --> 01:34:08.860
a fillable form as opposed to
a general guidance document.

01:34:08.860 --> 01:34:12.220
We've gone over the federal
environmental review

01:34:12.220 --> 01:34:15.931
process, and then we've
also reviewed the new EID.

01:34:15.931 --> 01:34:19.580
So, from here we can either go
on to the question and answer

01:34:19.580 --> 01:34:23.060
session or if you'd like, we
can describe the environmental

01:34:23.060 --> 01:34:26.300
data form and compare
federal versus state.

01:34:26.820 --> 01:34:27.660
Does that sound good?

01:34:27.660 --> 01:34:27.880
OK.

01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:30.610
So, we'll go ahead and skip to
that and then we'll go ahead

01:34:30.610 --> 01:34:32.356
and move on to the question
and answer session.

01:34:32.356 --> 01:34:36.450
So, the Environmental Data Form
is required for state-funded

01:34:36.450 --> 01:34:41.770
projects, and these programs
include the Water Development

01:34:41.770 --> 01:34:45.770
Fund, the Rural Water Assistance
Fund, Water Infrastructure

01:34:45.770 --> 01:34:49.570
Fund, State Participation
Program, the Economically

01:34:49.570 --> 01:34:52.570
Distressed Areas Program,
and the Agricultural Loan

01:34:52.570 --> 01:34:52.890
Program.

01:34:52.890 --> 01:34:55.210
So, these are the programs
that are listed on the very

01:34:55.210 --> 01:34:59.370
front of the Environmental
Data Form, and it's currently

01:34:59.370 --> 01:35:02.650
used for a mid-level or full
environmental review for most

01:35:02.650 --> 01:35:04.490
projects receiving
state funding.

01:35:05.090 --> 01:35:09.957
And the purpose of the EDF
is to ensure that projects

01:35:09.957 --> 01:35:14.370
have been adequately reviewed
by regulatory agencies

01:35:14.530 --> 01:35:17.570
and determine if the project
is expected to have adverse

01:35:17.730 --> 01:35:18.940
environmental impacts.

01:35:18.940 --> 01:35:22.970
And so, here we just have
a general comparison of

01:35:22.970 --> 01:35:26.730
the timeline of environmental
information document versus

01:35:26.730 --> 01:35:28.419
an environmental data form.

01:35:28.419 --> 01:35:31.646
So, an EID might take
anywhere between eight to ten

01:35:31.646 --> 01:35:35.758
months, whereas an EDF might
take six to eight months.

01:35:35.758 --> 01:35:42.330
And for the EDF, fewer agencies
might need to be coordinated

01:35:42.330 --> 01:35:45.797
with and a public meeting
is usually not required.

01:35:45.797 --> 01:35:51.050
And the public comment period
and board affirmation for an EDF

01:35:51.050 --> 01:35:54.210
is not required, whereas those
two steps are required for

01:35:54.210 --> 01:35:56.770
federal environmental review.

01:35:56.770 --> 01:36:02.770
So, from there, I'll go
ahead and open it up to

01:36:02.810 --> 01:36:04.410
a question-and-answer session.

01:36:09.050 --> 01:36:09.597
Yes.

01:36:09.597 --> 01:36:13.503
SPEAKER: With regard to agency
coordination in the past, that

01:36:13.503 --> 01:36:16.107
entailed sending them
a draft document.

01:36:16.241 --> 01:36:16.850
SPEAKER: Yes.

01:36:16.850 --> 01:36:20.220
SPEAKER: Would that
now be the draft form?

01:36:20.220 --> 01:36:20.870
SPEAKER: Yes.

01:36:20.870 --> 01:36:26.903
You would be sending them
a notification letter in

01:36:26.903 --> 01:36:30.040
addition to your draft
EID, and they would review

01:36:30.080 --> 01:36:33.240
that EID and then send
back recommendations.

01:36:33.240 --> 01:36:37.080
And whatever recommendations
they provide, we would then

01:36:37.080 --> 01:36:40.005
adopt those recommendations
within our finding.

01:36:40.005 --> 01:36:45.704
SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE)

01:36:46.133 --> 01:36:46.287
SPEAKER: No, no.

01:36:46.287 --> 01:36:50.880
So, you would do your agency
coordination prior to

01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:53.493
the submission of the EID to us.

01:36:53.493 --> 01:36:59.520
So, agency coordination
is a part of the process

01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:01.152
of preparing the EID.

01:37:01.152 --> 01:37:03.360
SPEAKER: I'd just like
to add something.

01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:06.200
The agencies may make
recommendations.

01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:10.240
The ones that we will include
as conditions of our findings

01:37:10.240 --> 01:37:12.960
are the ones that are based
on statutory regulations.

01:37:13.320 --> 01:37:15.200
Because sometimes they'll
say this would be a good

01:37:15.200 --> 01:37:21.930
idea, but there's not
a regulation requiring that.

01:37:21.930 --> 01:37:26.950
If there's a permit requirement,
if there's something that has

01:37:26.950 --> 01:37:29.371
to be done for you to get
a permit, it's definitely gonna

01:37:29.371 --> 01:37:30.390
be a condition.

01:37:30.390 --> 01:37:34.668
Sometimes it's a compliance with
the Migratory Bird Treaty Act,

01:37:34.668 --> 01:37:38.517
although you're not technically
out of compliance until you've

01:37:38.517 --> 01:37:39.801
actually done (INAUDIBLE).

01:37:39.801 --> 01:37:43.650
But they're saying you
do this just to ensure

01:37:43.650 --> 01:37:44.934
compliance with that.

01:37:44.934 --> 01:37:48.784
At least that's the statutory
reference versus just general

01:37:48.784 --> 01:37:51.350
recommendations that
are related to treaty.

01:37:51.958 --> 01:38:03.860
SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE)

01:38:03.860 --> 01:38:07.383
SPEAKER: In those cases,
it's always a subset of

01:38:07.383 --> 01:38:10.026
their recommendations
that we actually include.

01:38:11.222 --> 01:38:47.218
SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE)

01:38:47.643 --> 01:38:52.785
SPEAKER: And she has in one
of the slides I thought it

01:38:52.785 --> 01:38:54.654
was really well described.

01:38:54.654 --> 01:38:58.861
It helps you identify which
ones will require coordination.

01:38:58.861 --> 01:39:03.068
And you've got our little
caveat in there saying

01:39:03.068 --> 01:39:08.209
we're not making the call
whether or not you have to.

01:39:08.209 --> 01:39:12.416
You're still responsible for
getting all the permits that

01:39:12.416 --> 01:39:14.285
you need, but (INAUDIBLE).

01:39:14.365 --> 01:39:27.284
SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE)

01:39:27.722 --> 01:39:29.780
SPEAKER: There's a lot of
agency coordination that

01:39:29.780 --> 01:39:32.273
went on behind the scenes.

01:39:32.273 --> 01:39:35.967
So, they had an opportunity
to comment on the EID

01:39:35.967 --> 01:39:39.660
and say, this form is gonna
satisfy our requirements.

01:39:39.660 --> 01:39:42.220
If we were to receive it, then
we're going to have all of

01:39:42.220 --> 01:39:45.127
the information that we need in
order to make a recommendation.

01:39:45.127 --> 01:39:49.124
SPEAKER: On this slide where
she has listed uniform agency

01:39:49.124 --> 01:39:52.233
coordination requirements,
those are the agencies you

01:39:52.233 --> 01:39:54.009
have to coordinate with.

01:39:54.520 --> 01:39:57.972
SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE)

01:39:58.100 --> 01:40:00.603
SPEAKER: Do you think
Wildlife is a circumstantial

01:40:00.603 --> 01:40:02.033
requirement for your review?

01:40:02.033 --> 01:40:04.536
Fish and Wildlife is
a circumstantial requirement.

01:40:04.536 --> 01:40:08.112
So, you are going to
evaluate whether or not you

01:40:08.112 --> 01:40:11.330
think the project is gonna
have a potential impact

01:40:11.330 --> 01:40:12.760
and make that determination.

01:40:12.760 --> 01:40:15.757
(CROSSTALK)

01:40:16.022 --> 01:40:16.296
SPEAKER: Yeah.

01:40:16.296 --> 01:40:17.390
Oftentimes we don't respond.

01:40:17.390 --> 01:40:20.672
And so, we have a lot of
people who the way they're

01:40:20.672 --> 01:40:22.860
processed quite a bit
waiting for that response.

01:40:22.860 --> 01:40:24.502
And the response may never come.

01:40:24.502 --> 01:40:27.784
And so, how do we evaluate
whether or not Fish and Wildlife

01:40:27.784 --> 01:40:29.972
should be contacted is
usually in relation to

01:40:29.972 --> 01:40:32.434
the recommendations that we
receive from Parks and Wildlife.

01:40:32.434 --> 01:40:34.622
If we get pretty standard
recommendations from Parks

01:40:34.622 --> 01:40:37.084
and Wildlife and feel
pretty secure in that Parks

01:40:37.084 --> 01:40:39.546
and Wildlife like, wow,
this is a really sensitive

01:40:39.546 --> 01:40:42.007
area and there's a lot of
complications that we're

01:40:42.007 --> 01:40:44.469
gonna stand up and say,
maybe you should also

01:40:44.469 --> 01:40:45.563
contact Fish and Wildlife.

01:40:45.804 --> 01:40:58.577
SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE)

01:40:58.891 --> 01:40:59.198
SPEAKER: No.

01:40:59.198 --> 01:41:02.261
Now, that's never been
the policy, and you just need

01:41:02.261 --> 01:41:05.323
to talk to the environmental
reviewer to decide if they

01:41:05.323 --> 01:41:06.855
think there's really an issue.

01:41:06.855 --> 01:41:08.999
And sometimes we make
the call ourselves.

01:41:08.999 --> 01:41:11.143
Are you going to
respond to (INAUDIBLE)?

01:41:12.691 --> 01:41:34.117
SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE)

01:41:34.217 --> 01:41:38.910
SPEAKER: And that's why
requiring their responses, even

01:41:38.910 --> 01:41:44.250
you get no response or you get
a response that says because you

01:41:44.250 --> 01:41:47.570
said there's no effect, we're
not requiring a consultation,

01:41:47.570 --> 01:41:51.560
which doesn't really tell you
that they reviewed it at all.

01:41:51.560 --> 01:41:59.851
SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE)

01:42:00.143 --> 01:42:05.690
SPEAKER: I've got several EIDs
that are in various stages of

01:42:05.690 --> 01:42:09.690
completion, and they're
going by the old format.

01:42:10.010 --> 01:42:13.397
And I'm just wondering,
is there any change to

01:42:13.397 --> 01:42:16.417
continue on that format?

01:42:16.417 --> 01:42:21.252
(CROSSTALK)

01:42:21.512 --> 01:42:22.944
SPEAKER: Use the same format.

01:42:22.944 --> 01:42:26.883
And if you wanted, you could
look at the requirements in

01:42:26.883 --> 01:42:30.822
the EID template and just say
that and adjust the requirements

01:42:30.822 --> 01:42:33.329
even with those comments,
things like that.

01:42:35.120 --> 01:42:46.906
SPEAKER: (CROSSTALK)

01:42:47.014 --> 01:42:50.344
SPEAKER: And so, the old
guidance documents for the clean

01:42:50.344 --> 01:42:54.045
water and drinking water state
revolving funds have now been

01:42:54.045 --> 01:42:55.525
removed from the website.

01:42:55.525 --> 01:42:58.486
So, people logging in
and wanting or needing

01:42:58.486 --> 01:43:01.816
to submit an EID will
now utilize that form.

01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:07.120
SPEAKER: Downloading
the forms in preparation

01:43:07.120 --> 01:43:10.400
for doing the completing
the work for the information

01:43:10.400 --> 01:43:13.760
of the environmental review
is gonna want to have for

01:43:13.760 --> 01:43:16.187
whatever level we're doing.

01:43:16.187 --> 01:43:21.800
Would there be something in
the guidance on the internet

01:43:21.800 --> 01:43:24.600
showing us which reviewer we
would need to contact if we

01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:26.000
had questions?

01:43:26.200 --> 01:43:27.380
Is there a...

01:43:27.380 --> 01:43:31.000
How will we know which
reviewer we'll be looking at?

01:43:31.200 --> 01:43:35.120
SPEAKER: Well, once
the application is accepted,

01:43:35.120 --> 01:43:41.001
then the applicant is sent
a list, (INAUDIBLE) here's

01:43:41.001 --> 01:43:46.881
your project team, the review
engineer or the environmental

01:43:46.881 --> 01:43:48.841
reviewer, team manager.

01:43:52.143 --> 01:43:56.640
SPEAKER: Many times or sometimes
our engineering clients never

01:43:56.680 --> 01:43:58.488
tell us that information.

01:43:58.488 --> 01:44:02.900
You say we need this
environmental document prepared,

01:44:02.900 --> 01:44:05.040
so go ahead and start doing it.

01:44:05.640 --> 01:44:08.112
And that's really all
they tell us essentially.

01:44:08.112 --> 01:44:09.560
And they'll give
us the information

01:44:09.560 --> 01:44:10.640
about the project.

01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:14.590
But a lot of times people that
I talk to on the engineering

01:44:14.590 --> 01:44:17.830
side don't even know who
the environmental reviewer

01:44:17.830 --> 01:44:20.737
is, or perhaps could even
care less at that point.

01:44:20.737 --> 01:44:23.350
SPEAKER: You can always
call me and I'll figure out

01:44:23.630 --> 01:44:26.990
who the reviewer is if no
one's been assigned yet.

01:44:27.630 --> 01:44:28.830
General questions like that.

01:44:28.830 --> 01:44:32.217
SPEAKER: I think at one time
you all had a location map.

01:44:32.217 --> 01:44:34.010
SPEAKER: We have a location map.

01:44:34.010 --> 01:44:36.590
So, there's six regional
teams and that can be

01:44:36.590 --> 01:44:37.790
found on our website.

01:44:37.990 --> 01:44:40.550
And it also provides
the contact number for

01:44:40.550 --> 01:44:42.243
the manager of each team.

01:44:42.243 --> 01:44:45.110
The manager of each team would
always be able to tell you who

01:44:45.110 --> 01:44:49.550
the environmental reviewer for
the project, with the exception

01:44:49.630 --> 01:44:53.190
of (UKNOWN) that's coming
in right now because we're

01:44:53.190 --> 01:44:57.430
spreading it around so that
the team reviewing it may not

01:44:57.430 --> 01:45:03.550
be the regional team that would
normally review it because it's

01:45:03.550 --> 01:45:04.630
been...

01:45:04.630 --> 01:45:09.350
And we're sharing it
(INAUDIBLE), but the manager

01:45:09.350 --> 01:45:11.373
would still know who was
handling (INAUDIBLE).

01:45:11.373 --> 01:45:14.383
So, that's like one person
that you can contact for

01:45:14.383 --> 01:45:15.180
that information.

01:45:15.180 --> 01:45:17.684
SPEAKER: And will this
presentation be put

01:45:17.684 --> 01:45:20.156
online because there's
a lot of links that?

01:45:20.156 --> 01:45:20.525
SPEAKER: Yes.

01:45:20.525 --> 01:45:22.742
This presentation
will be put online.

01:45:22.742 --> 01:45:25.698
So, we'll provide a copy
of the PowerPoint.

01:45:25.698 --> 01:45:28.284
And then we'll also add a video.

01:45:28.284 --> 01:45:32.347
So, we've been recording this
both to put online and also

01:45:32.347 --> 01:45:33.825
for our webinar participants.

01:45:33.825 --> 01:45:38.628
So, you can always refer back to
it if you have any questions.

01:45:41.737 --> 01:45:42.140
Yes.

01:45:42.205 --> 01:45:44.460
SPEAKER: Question
about the notice for

01:45:44.460 --> 01:45:45.660
the public meeting.

01:45:45.660 --> 01:45:51.872
Do we have to mail out a notice
in the form of a letter to any

01:45:51.872 --> 01:45:55.748
of the adjacent landowners
(INAUDIBLE) to the public

01:45:55.748 --> 01:45:56.287
meeting?

01:45:56.287 --> 01:46:00.760
SPEAKER: I would say notify
any interested parties,

01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:04.340
which may or may not include
adjacent landowners.

01:46:04.340 --> 01:46:08.774
SPEAKER: So, once we
have the public meeting,

01:46:08.774 --> 01:46:12.700
if a interested party at
public meetings request

01:46:12.700 --> 01:46:16.380
a public hearing, do we have
to go ahead and do a public

01:46:16.380 --> 01:46:17.424
hearing after that?

01:46:17.424 --> 01:46:19.940
SPEAKER: I think firstly
the environmental reviewer will

01:46:19.940 --> 01:46:22.910
decide whether or not it merits.

01:46:22.910 --> 01:46:27.260
SPEAKER: It depends on
the level of impact or,

01:46:28.980 --> 01:46:31.981
I guess, the general...

01:46:34.099 --> 01:46:35.122
SPEAKER: The public hearing...

01:46:35.122 --> 01:46:38.660
The reason why we would
hold the public hearing is

01:46:38.660 --> 01:46:41.340
if there is reason to believe
that there is a significant

01:46:41.340 --> 01:46:45.033
public controversy associated
with environmental impact.

01:46:45.033 --> 01:46:48.980
So, if somebody is just opposed
to the project because they're

01:46:48.980 --> 01:46:52.780
opposed to the project,
you still have to respond

01:46:52.780 --> 01:46:55.540
and provide some sort of
formal comment to that person,

01:46:55.660 --> 01:47:00.020
but you're not gonna be kicking
it up a notch unless there is

01:47:00.020 --> 01:47:02.660
some sort of justification that
there is significant public

01:47:02.660 --> 01:47:05.860
controversy and that that public
controversy is associated with

01:47:05.860 --> 01:47:08.743
an environmental
impact of the project.

01:47:11.114 --> 01:47:16.943
SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE)

01:47:17.104 --> 01:47:22.220
SPEAKER: The EID isn't complete
until it has everything in it

01:47:22.220 --> 01:47:25.289
that is part of the document.

01:47:26.230 --> 01:47:27.040
SPEAKER: Yeah.

01:47:27.040 --> 01:47:28.890
Very clear there.

01:47:28.890 --> 01:47:32.490
If Parks and Wildlife
makes a recommendation,

01:47:32.490 --> 01:47:35.660
may or may not require it.

01:47:35.660 --> 01:47:41.850
Because I was quoted
a statute or (INAUDIBLE) says

01:47:42.530 --> 01:47:46.143
we have to follow whatever
recommendation they make.

01:47:46.143 --> 01:47:50.410
So, if they make
a recommendation, it has to be.

01:47:50.410 --> 01:47:52.690
SPEAKER: Only
if the recommendation is based

01:47:52.690 --> 01:47:56.770
on statutory (INAUDIBLE).

01:47:56.770 --> 01:48:01.010
They can require something
to ensure compliance with

01:48:01.650 --> 01:48:06.050
a regulation or act like
the Migratory Bird Treaty Act.

01:48:07.410 --> 01:48:14.130
But if they have something not
specific, they can't specify

01:48:14.170 --> 01:48:17.310
and we can't get them to
specify what it's related to.

01:48:17.310 --> 01:48:20.570
It's very true that
we think (INAUDIBLE).

01:48:20.570 --> 01:48:24.730
But we get numerous
recommendations from Parks

01:48:24.730 --> 01:48:30.650
and Wildlife and the applicant
can agree or not to do those

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things, but we don't include
them as a condition of

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the environmental findings
unless they face them regularly.

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SPEAKER: The regulatory
requirements state that

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the response has to be
provided to the department.

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If you don't agree with
what they want, you have

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to respond to them.

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SPEAKER: (INAUDIBLE)

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SPEAKER: Any other questions?

01:48:58.280 --> 01:48:59.211
No?

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Alright.

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Well, thank you
all for attending.