WEBVTT 00:02.640 --> 00:02.700 NATALIE BALLEW: Alright. 00:02.700 --> 00:06.780 So, our agenda for today is we're going to 00:06.780 --> 00:09.510 introduce what the Brackish Resources 00:09.510 --> 00:13.530 Aquifer Characterization System Program or the BRACS program is. 00:13.980 --> 00:15.960 Then we'll give you a little bit of background 00:15.960 --> 00:18.405 on Brackish groundwater production zones. 00:18.405 --> 00:22.200 And we'll present to you kind of why we're even having this meeting 00:22.200 --> 00:25.890 and some current guidance proposals that we're considering. 00:26.460 --> 00:28.120 And then I'll pause for a couple of questions. 00:28.120 --> 00:32.210 If you have anything after all of that. 00:32.210 --> 00:34.740 But then we're going to ask you some questions and we are 00:34.740 --> 00:37.545 going to use the polling feature and go to webinar. 00:37.545 --> 00:39.705 And then we'll end with another round of 00:39.705 --> 00:41.860 questions if you have any lingering. 00:41.860 --> 00:45.075 So, now I'm going to turn it over to Alysa Suydam, 00:45.075 --> 00:48.360 who is our BRACS program manager. 00:48.450 --> 00:50.010 And so, Elissa, take it away. 00:51.550 --> 00:51.655 ALYSA SUYDAM: Alright. 00:51.655 --> 00:52.240 Thank you, Natalie. 00:52.659 --> 00:53.350 Good morning, y'all. 00:54.550 --> 00:56.500 Let's get to the next slide. 00:58.300 --> 00:59.882 So, yeah, my name is Let's Alysa Suydam. 00:59.882 --> 01:01.750 I'm the manager of the BRACS program. 01:01.810 --> 01:05.530 And so, before we jump into the meat of the meeting, 01:05.530 --> 01:07.420 just want to give a little background on what 01:07.420 --> 01:08.930 the Texas Water Development Board is. 01:08.930 --> 01:12.280 So, we were created in the 1950s after the drought of record 01:12.280 --> 01:15.730 to research water sources meant for drought and growth. 01:16.150 --> 01:20.860 And one of the main ways we do that is we collect a lot of data 01:20.860 --> 01:23.530 and we do some research on the water sources of the state. 01:30.540 --> 01:30.840 Sorry. 01:31.080 --> 01:32.400 This slide's acting funny. 01:39.770 --> 01:41.270 I'm sorry that the slides you're acting out. 01:41.690 --> 01:43.190 So, give me just one second here. 02:02.430 --> 02:03.873 NATALIE BALLEW: That looks good, Alysa. 02:04.410 --> 02:04.540 ALYSA SUYDAM: OK. 02:04.540 --> 02:06.372 Yeah, sorry about that. 02:06.372 --> 02:07.674 Y'all. 02:07.674 --> 02:08.976 Alright. 02:08.976 --> 02:13.329 So, to jump back into it, I apologize. 02:13.329 --> 02:19.680 So, we are a non-regulatory agency, but we do a lot of water research 02:19.680 --> 02:22.560 and we collect data and we share all of that with the public. 02:23.190 --> 02:26.100 And one of the reasons we collect all this data and do this research 02:26.100 --> 02:28.690 is to assist with the planning efforts of the state. 02:28.690 --> 02:32.100 So, planning for water supply in the future with growth. 02:32.460 --> 02:36.389 And then finally, kind of to assist this water planning effort, 02:36.389 --> 02:38.639 we have a funding available and that mostly 02:38.639 --> 02:39.810 looks like low interest loans. 02:41.690 --> 02:45.555 And then so a little bit about the BRACS program itself. 02:45.555 --> 02:50.780 So, our main goal is to map groundwater salinity. 02:51.290 --> 02:54.440 So, specifically Brackish groundwater of the state's aquifers 02:54.440 --> 02:58.070 and then also to estimate groundwater storage estimates, 02:58.070 --> 03:01.400 but specifically the Brackish groundwater storage estimate. 03:01.940 --> 03:04.310 And the reason we do this is because stakeholders have identified 03:04.310 --> 03:06.650 that they'd like to use Brackish groundwater in desalination. 03:07.190 --> 03:11.240 And so, by doing this research, putting out this data and these reports, 03:11.660 --> 03:14.240 it helps people planning projects, 03:14.750 --> 03:17.510 at least have something, like basic information that will 03:17.510 --> 03:20.120 maybe make it a little easier to plan these projects. 03:21.230 --> 03:24.620 And so, all of our reports are data our analysis. 03:24.620 --> 03:26.540 We make that freely available to the public. 03:26.840 --> 03:28.910 You can download reports from our website 03:29.270 --> 03:30.830 and then all of the data that we use in our 03:30.830 --> 03:32.870 projects and that we produce from our projects 03:32.870 --> 03:34.160 is also available for download. 03:35.270 --> 03:38.540 So yeah, we have BRACS database that sort of wealth of information. 03:42.480 --> 03:44.760 So I'm guessing most y'all might know what 03:44.760 --> 03:46.680 a Brackish ground water production zone is, 03:46.680 --> 03:49.020 but just to make sure we're all on the same page. 03:49.020 --> 03:51.780 BGPZ has two components. 03:51.780 --> 03:56.070 There's a defined boundary and then also a defined annual volume. 03:56.640 --> 03:59.490 And so, when I discuss like a defined boundary, 03:59.490 --> 04:03.410 I don't only mean the footprint but also like the the volume. 04:03.410 --> 04:07.780 So, like the thickness of that straight out in the subsurface. 04:08.460 --> 04:11.400 So, for example, here we have Rus1 on the right. 04:11.970 --> 04:14.370 And so, if we were discussed that defined boundary, 04:14.910 --> 04:17.430 we have sheet files that have like the specific dots and everything, 04:17.430 --> 04:19.710 but verbally it's the magenta dolomite, 04:19.710 --> 04:22.559 the culebra dolomite and the limestones of los medanos. 04:22.559 --> 04:25.320 So, members of the rest of the aquifer within that footprint. 04:26.160 --> 04:28.860 And then when we discuss the defined annual volume, 04:29.250 --> 04:31.620 it's this 2,513 acre feet per year. 04:35.000 --> 04:37.680 And so, the reason why we're talking about Brackish 04:37.680 --> 04:40.760 groundwater production zones at all is so in 2015, 04:40.760 --> 04:45.050 the 84th Texas Legislature passed House Bill 30 and that directed 04:45.050 --> 04:48.140 that TWDB to identify and designate these zones. 04:49.040 --> 04:52.029 Part of that direction was they establish 04:52.029 --> 04:54.320 the statutory mapping criteria and they 04:54.320 --> 04:57.589 also directed the TDB to consider for aquifers 04:57.589 --> 05:00.620 and to designate zones in by 2016. 05:01.279 --> 05:03.020 And so, those four aquifers where the rest of their 05:03.020 --> 05:05.630 aquifer the Carrizo-Wilcox Aquifer south of 05:05.630 --> 05:09.610 the Colorado River and the Gulf Coast aquifer and sorry, 05:09.620 --> 05:10.850 and then also the Blaine Aquifer. 05:11.210 --> 05:14.500 And so, we designated eight zones in three of the aquifers. 05:14.500 --> 05:16.100 So, you can see those off to the right. 05:16.610 --> 05:19.010 Those are the three designated zones in the rest 05:19.010 --> 05:21.430 of the Gulf Coast and the Currizo-Wilcox. 05:21.430 --> 05:27.140 And we did not designate zones in the Blaine because there wasn't enough 05:28.400 --> 05:31.910 area left over after considering the statutory mapping criteria. 05:36.700 --> 05:40.440 And so, in 2019, we designated 23 more 05:40.440 --> 05:41.920 Brackish groundwater protection zones, 05:42.430 --> 05:44.250 and these were in three aquifers. 05:44.260 --> 05:47.380 So the Blossom, the Nacatoch and the Northern Trinity Aquifer. 05:48.529 --> 05:51.200 And we also had some more legislation come out that 05:51.200 --> 05:53.240 affected Brackish ground of our production zones. 05:53.870 --> 05:55.400 Namely, Senate Bill 1041. 05:55.730 --> 05:59.390 And so, that extended the mapping deadline to December 1st, 2032. 06:00.920 --> 06:03.109 And then House Bill 722 established GCD 06:03.109 --> 06:04.370 permitting framework for developing 06:04.370 --> 06:06.770 water supplies from Brackish ground water production zones. 06:13.580 --> 06:19.640 And so, we have so TWDB has some rules that state that we can self 06:19.640 --> 06:22.370 initiate amendments to records groundwater production zones. 06:22.820 --> 06:25.520 It also states that GCDs can request amendments 06:25.520 --> 06:27.110 to Brackish groundwater protection zones. 06:27.920 --> 06:30.870 And then finally, in these rules, we state that, you know, 06:30.980 --> 06:32.900 we'll publish guidance documents discussing 06:32.900 --> 06:34.180 the timing for considering amendments. 06:34.180 --> 06:35.870 So, we don't have those published yet, 06:35.870 --> 06:38.120 but we have some ideas and we want your feedback 06:38.120 --> 06:39.470 on what that process should look like. 06:39.830 --> 06:41.480 And so, that's what we're having this meeting today. 06:42.080 --> 06:45.900 And just as a quick note, we probably will not self initiate 06:45.900 --> 06:48.770 BGPZs amendments until after 2032 deadline, 06:49.400 --> 06:53.420 but if GCD makes a request in the meantime, we'll certainly consider it. 06:58.400 --> 07:00.483 And so, when we discussed the Brackish 07:00.483 --> 07:02.000 groundwater production zone amendment, 07:02.510 --> 07:05.380 it would look like one of two things. 07:05.380 --> 07:08.540 So, it could look like the boundary changing 07:08.900 --> 07:10.880 or the annual production volume changing. 07:11.210 --> 07:14.960 And so, when I discuss the boundary, I mean either like the footprint 07:14.960 --> 07:18.980 and or the depths so is only become larger or smaller because 07:19.400 --> 07:23.870 we'll consider statutory criteria or whatever data submitted or 07:23.870 --> 07:26.900 the annual production volume could become larger or smaller. 07:34.260 --> 07:36.900 And so, if we receive a request, 07:37.320 --> 07:40.091 we need to receive a request for an amendment from a GCD. 07:40.091 --> 07:41.287 This is by our rules. 07:41.287 --> 07:43.620 So, GCD could submit a request. 07:44.100 --> 07:48.210 A group of GCDs could submit a request or any private individual 07:48.210 --> 07:50.250 working through a GCD could submit a request. 07:51.380 --> 07:54.290 And we'll also note that if the zone spans 07:54.290 --> 07:56.030 multiple districts will require 07:56.030 --> 08:01.683 government consensus of the request from all GCDs overlay zone. 08:01.683 --> 08:07.770 So, you might be wondering, like, why my zone need to be amended. 08:08.280 --> 08:10.470 And so, there's a good number of reasons why, 08:11.070 --> 08:13.170 but it all boils down to you maybe there's 08:13.170 --> 08:14.910 better data available that we didn't have 08:14.910 --> 08:16.270 when we were designating the zone. 08:16.270 --> 08:18.180 So, this could be, you know, 08:18.300 --> 08:20.520 there's no complete database of wells in Texas. 08:20.520 --> 08:23.700 So, perhaps we missed one of these qualified existing use wells. 08:24.180 --> 08:26.880 And so that'd be reason to amend the zone. 08:27.540 --> 08:29.340 Or perhaps we didn't have complete data 08:29.340 --> 08:31.710 about injection or disposal wells. 08:32.309 --> 08:34.830 Maybe there's data, new data that shows insufficient 08:34.830 --> 08:36.510 hydro geologic barrier and fresh water. 08:37.740 --> 08:40.233 So, you know, all sorts of good reasons. 08:40.233 --> 08:44.860 So, let's run through just a hypothetical 08:44.860 --> 08:47.770 example real quick of why is it I might 08:47.770 --> 08:49.179 need to be amended and what kind of data 08:49.179 --> 08:51.240 we would need to support that amendment. 08:51.240 --> 08:55.059 So, let's pretend and sorry, I'd also wanted to mention 08:55.059 --> 08:58.450 that will require your supporting documentation to 08:58.450 --> 09:00.490 be submitted with the amendment request and then also 09:00.490 --> 09:03.850 that supporting documentation is not confidential. 09:05.590 --> 09:08.710 And so, let's pretend we designated a zone in that county. 09:09.490 --> 09:13.929 And the GCDs is requesting an amendment and requesting 09:13.929 --> 09:16.540 an amendment because they say we missed existing used wells. 09:17.800 --> 09:20.740 So, a great source of data to show that we missed some wells would 09:20.740 --> 09:24.070 be a State of Texas well report that's non-confidential. 09:24.070 --> 09:26.350 And you know it shows the when the wells 09:26.350 --> 09:28.040 completed and so we could verify 09:28.040 --> 09:32.170 that yes that well was completed before the zone was designated. 09:33.100 --> 09:37.900 It also shows the use, the location, but more importantly, 09:38.410 --> 09:41.590 it also shows the construction information so we can verify it by 09:41.590 --> 09:44.290 looking at the screen that that well is drawing from the zone. 09:48.210 --> 09:50.550 And so, some more generic examples of documentation. 09:51.240 --> 09:52.990 You know, it could be like, well construction information 09:52.990 --> 09:55.140 and maybe water quality analysis because, 09:55.140 --> 09:57.150 you know, perhaps like we didn't have complete 09:57.150 --> 09:58.890 data showing where fresh water was. 09:59.309 --> 10:02.130 So, that'll be great type of data to submit. 10:02.130 --> 10:04.500 Documentation could be groundwater models, 10:04.500 --> 10:10.080 geophysical logs, contests, et cetera. 10:10.080 --> 10:17.280 So, now we're getting into like the main like looking 10:17.280 --> 10:20.620 at how this minute request process could look like. 10:20.620 --> 10:23.520 So, we have two ideas, kind of shorthand. 10:23.520 --> 10:25.390 I'll call them option A and option B. 10:25.390 --> 10:28.710 Option A is, you know, we received the requests 10:28.710 --> 10:31.740 and then we split them into major, minor requests. 10:32.920 --> 10:35.710 And then option B has more structure timeframes. 10:36.550 --> 10:40.063 And so, I'll give you more details on those in just a second here. 10:40.063 --> 10:45.020 So, with option A of it's kind of more flexible. 10:45.020 --> 10:47.870 So, a GCD could submit a request at any time. 10:47.870 --> 10:50.540 So, once TWDB receives that request, 10:51.170 --> 10:54.110 we'll have 60 days to determine if the request is major or minor. 10:54.890 --> 10:56.840 And so, if it's a minor amendment, 10:57.350 --> 11:00.380 the idea with that it's straightforward. 11:00.380 --> 11:03.230 It would probably require less staff time to, you know, 11:03.290 --> 11:05.929 like thoroughly go through the data and, 11:06.590 --> 11:07.820 you know, make a recommendation. 11:08.780 --> 11:11.660 And so, it should be pretty easy to like look through. 11:11.660 --> 11:14.240 And so, the idea with a minor amendment is 11:14.240 --> 11:16.190 after we receive complete documentation, 11:16.550 --> 11:19.309 a decision about that amendment request could be made in six months. 11:21.490 --> 11:22.510 Now with major amendments. 11:22.690 --> 11:26.160 The idea with that is that you require 11:26.160 --> 11:27.580 a higher level of staff involvement. 11:28.270 --> 11:30.460 So, perhaps the supporting data is like a groundwater 11:30.460 --> 11:32.740 flow model that has new and improved data. 11:32.740 --> 11:34.840 So, that would be a little more complex. 11:35.350 --> 11:37.510 You know, we'd have to have more staff time to 11:37.690 --> 11:41.260 sort through that and review the request. 11:41.770 --> 11:44.260 And so, once we receive complete documentation 11:44.260 --> 11:45.670 for a major amendment request, 11:46.540 --> 11:49.090 you know, a decision would be made in two years. 11:53.320 --> 11:56.970 And so option B, this is our structured timeframes. 11:56.970 --> 12:00.940 So, with this, idea, we don't split 12:00.940 --> 12:02.650 the admin requests into major or minor. 12:03.550 --> 12:06.400 What we do instead is there's just a five year review cycle. 12:06.400 --> 12:09.670 And so, amendment requests will be accepted within 12:09.670 --> 12:11.890 a window before the review cycle starts. 12:13.780 --> 12:17.470 And if a GCD submits requests before a review cycle, that's fine. 12:17.470 --> 12:20.860 We'll just wait until the review cycle starts to consider it. 12:22.210 --> 12:25.270 The first two years of the review cycle would be spent on ensuring 12:25.270 --> 12:28.690 that we have all the correct and complete documentation. 12:29.860 --> 12:32.050 With the remainder of the time will analyze the requests, 12:32.050 --> 12:34.360 and then decisions regarding requests will be 12:34.360 --> 12:37.343 announced at the end of the review cycle. 12:37.343 --> 12:43.309 So, another question that we have for you all to consider and we'll 12:43.309 --> 12:47.100 ask about your opinions on all of this and polling later. 12:47.100 --> 12:50.720 So, another question that we have for you all is how 12:50.720 --> 12:53.200 do you want the amendment request to be finalized 12:54.230 --> 12:56.600 So, of the 31 zones that exist now, 12:56.600 --> 13:00.679 they've all been established by a TWDB board member action. 13:01.520 --> 13:04.970 And so we're curious like, do you all want amendment 13:04.970 --> 13:06.513 requests to be finalized by TWDB, 13:06.513 --> 13:08.450 be board member action, or do you want them to 13:08.450 --> 13:11.319 be decided by the executive administrator? 13:11.319 --> 13:15.410 So, if they're decided by a TWDB board member action, 13:15.410 --> 13:18.350 it's likely they'll have less flexible timelines. 13:19.070 --> 13:21.080 But if they're decided by the executive administrator, 13:21.410 --> 13:22.940 it might be a little more flexible. 13:29.170 --> 13:30.910 And so, if you'll have any, like just open 13:30.910 --> 13:32.380 ended questions for us right now, 13:32.390 --> 13:33.970 we're happy to take them. 13:33.970 --> 13:37.000 We'll be pulling you in just a little bit here for 13:37.000 --> 13:40.980 specifics on some of those questions I posed you. 13:41.260 --> 13:42.580 So, if you know, like specifics, 13:42.580 --> 13:45.940 like you question or option A or option B, we'll address that in full. 13:45.940 --> 13:48.350 And if you have any questions like open ended questions right now, 13:48.370 --> 13:49.420 we'd be very happy to take them. 13:52.720 --> 13:55.330 NATALIE BALLEW: If you have a question or if you have your hand raised, 13:55.600 --> 13:59.290 you can type it in the questions/ chat dropdown menu. 14:00.050 --> 14:03.460 Doesn't look like we have any quite yet, but we'll give it a minute. 14:16.710 --> 14:18.780 And we'll have time for questions at the end as well, 14:18.780 --> 14:26.060 if something else pops up after we ask you a whole bunch of questions. 14:26.060 --> 14:30.340 ALYSA SUYDAM: Alright. 14:35.380 --> 14:35.390 NATALIE BALLEW: Alright. 14:35.390 --> 14:36.420 I think I'll move on. 14:37.050 --> 14:37.250 ALYSA SUYDAM: Yeah. 14:37.250 --> 14:39.840 So, I'll pass this to Natalie. 14:41.100 --> 14:43.830 NATALIE BALLEW: Alright, so we're going to use this polling feature to ask you. 14:43.830 --> 14:46.650 We only have five questions, so it shouldn't take too long. 14:48.210 --> 14:50.640 But we also have one question where we're going to ask for. 14:50.640 --> 14:54.630 If you have any comments to provide or an answer that you email 14:54.630 --> 15:00.300 us a response and you can email any responses or any 15:00.300 --> 15:03.900 questions that you have to this email address 15:03.900 --> 15:06.746 that's listed on the slide here, 15:06.746 --> 15:08.353 public-comment@twdb.texas.gov. 15:08.353 --> 15:13.680 And you have until July 22nd to send us something and just 15:13.680 --> 15:18.420 please include BGPZs Little S in the subject line. 15:18.990 --> 15:23.370 I wanted to point out too that we also have a handout 15:23.370 --> 15:25.380 of the draft guidance that we have so far 15:25.380 --> 15:27.780 that's listed in this webinar and the handouts 15:27.780 --> 15:30.420 dropdown menu off to the right of your screen. 15:30.780 --> 15:32.940 And this is also available on our website and we have 15:32.940 --> 15:36.890 a link for that at the end of this presentation as well. 15:36.890 --> 15:42.930 So, we'll go ahead and hop into our first question. 15:44.010 --> 15:45.330 Let's see. 15:45.330 --> 15:50.220 So, a poll should pop up on your screen shortly. 15:51.950 --> 15:57.950 And the question is, are a GCD that anticipates requesting an amendment 15:57.950 --> 16:02.120 or are you someone who works for a GCD that will request an amendment? 16:02.120 --> 16:05.900 And you should be able to click your answer there. 16:08.640 --> 16:10.020 We'll give it a little bit. 16:17.760 --> 16:27.716 A little bit longer. 16:27.716 --> 16:36.973 Alright. 16:36.973 --> 16:48.780 If you're still waiting to answer in about 16:48.780 --> 16:53.375 3 seconds to get your answer in. 16:53.375 --> 16:54.617 Alright. 16:54.617 --> 16:59.250 And if you don't get to vote, you can always give us your feedback. 17:00.990 --> 17:01.980 Email us your feedback. 17:01.980 --> 17:02.430 Alright. 17:02.430 --> 17:05.190 So I'm going to close this poll and. 17:06.330 --> 17:09.180 We're going to move on to the next question. 17:11.520 --> 17:12.250 ALYSA SUYDAM: Natalie, real quick. 17:12.270 --> 17:14.820 There's a question in the chat asking if about 17:14.820 --> 17:16.260 that public comment e-mail address. 17:16.260 --> 17:19.956 It is public-comment@twdb.texas.gov. 17:19.956 --> 17:21.730 NATALIE BALLEW: Yes. 17:22.150 --> 17:23.680 And we have that listed several other 17:23.680 --> 17:25.480 times throughout this presentation. 17:25.480 --> 17:26.650 OK. 17:26.650 --> 17:30.400 So, our next question is, 17:30.520 --> 17:35.350 would you like amendments to be decided by TWDB Board Member Action. 17:35.950 --> 17:39.280 And just as a reminder, the Brackish groundwater 17:39.280 --> 17:42.250 zones were initially designated by the board. 17:43.390 --> 17:46.720 It could be potentially less flexible time lines. 17:47.109 --> 17:49.630 The other option that we'll ask you about a minute 17:49.630 --> 18:04.163 is just approval by our executive administrator. 18:04.163 --> 18:25.730 Alright, we'll give it. 18:27.430 --> 18:31.406 Another couple of seconds. 18:31.406 --> 18:34.633 OK. 18:34.633 --> 18:39.150 We're going to close this poll. 18:40.270 --> 18:42.796 And three, two, one. 18:42.796 --> 18:43.672 Ok. 18:43.672 --> 18:44.548 Alright. 18:44.548 --> 18:55.180 So, our next question is do you prefer option 18:55.180 --> 18:57.920 A that we presented or option B? 18:57.920 --> 19:02.480 And I apologize that there's not much detail here, but as a reminder, 19:02.480 --> 19:06.080 that Option A was to basically assess 19:06.080 --> 19:08.300 amendments as either major or minor, 19:08.330 --> 19:11.780 and districts could submit a request at any time period. 19:12.530 --> 19:17.090 And Option B was a little bit of a more structured time frame. 19:17.780 --> 19:20.869 There's no distinction between a major or minor amendment 19:21.200 --> 19:23.600 and would review those on a five year cycle. 19:24.680 --> 19:27.650 And if you don't like either one of these, please let us know. 19:27.650 --> 19:29.690 And if you have a better idea, 19:29.960 --> 19:31.520 something that might work a little bit better, 19:32.180 --> 19:51.195 again, you can email it to public-comment@twdb.texas.gov. 19:51.195 --> 20:00.222 Alright. 20:00.222 --> 20:10.750 Give us just a couple more seconds here. 20:14.470 --> 20:16.810 Thank you all for sitting in uncomfortable silence with me. 20:21.790 --> 20:21.920 Alright. 20:21.920 --> 20:23.200 And I'll close this poll. 20:27.720 --> 20:30.420 And our next question. 20:34.340 --> 20:36.950 Is what do you think about the proposed time 20:36.950 --> 20:38.930 frames that we presented for Option A, 20:38.930 --> 20:41.810 which is that major and minor amendment distinction? 20:43.880 --> 20:47.600 That time period would be six months for 20:47.600 --> 20:49.550 a minor amendment request decision. 20:49.580 --> 20:53.240 After we get all the information we need and then 20:53.240 --> 20:57.300 two years for any major amendment requests. 20:57.300 --> 20:59.300 So, is that too long? 20:59.330 --> 21:00.050 Too short? 21:00.140 --> 21:01.190 You don't like it at all? 21:03.900 --> 21:11.190 You like it? 21:11.190 --> 21:18.110 OK. 21:18.110 --> 21:38.869 And our last. 21:39.440 --> 21:42.140 If you want to vote, I see some more people voting. 21:42.440 --> 21:47.216 Throw it in real quick and I'm going to close this poll here. 21:47.216 --> 21:48.543 Alright. 21:48.543 --> 21:55.060 And our last polling question is, 21:55.060 --> 21:58.150 what do you think about the time frames for option B, 21:58.570 --> 22:01.070 which would be a five year review cycle. 22:01.070 --> 22:03.490 The first two years will be focused on 22:03.490 --> 22:05.080 getting all the data that we needed 22:05.830 --> 22:09.770 and amendment decisions would be delivered at the end of a cycle. 22:09.770 --> 22:11.250 So, do you like this? 22:11.260 --> 22:12.700 Is it too long, too short? 22:13.210 --> 22:27.376 You don't like the option at all? 22:27.376 --> 22:40.553 Alright. 22:40.553 --> 22:54.900 Now I'm going to close this poll. 22:56.270 --> 22:59.030 And that's the end of our polling section. 22:59.359 --> 23:01.190 So, Alysa, if you could pull up the size again. 23:02.490 --> 23:05.490 And then Alysa, did you want to go? 23:06.150 --> 23:06.380 ALYSA SUYDAM: Yeah. 23:06.810 --> 23:08.119 So we have one last question. 23:08.130 --> 23:09.790 This is open ended. 23:09.790 --> 23:14.040 So, we're assuming that the reasons GCDs might request 23:14.790 --> 23:17.790 as an amendment is because we had insufficient data. 23:18.510 --> 23:20.280 Perhaps that's not the entire reason. 23:20.670 --> 23:23.669 And so, we're curious why on my request this amendment, 23:23.669 --> 23:26.820 because that will help us craft better guidance document. 23:26.820 --> 23:31.070 We can maybe include relevant examples of types of data to provide. 23:31.070 --> 23:35.010 So, if you wanted to let us know, just shoot us an email. 23:35.130 --> 23:36.930 We'd be very happy to see that information. 23:43.890 --> 23:46.070 And then for our next steps. 23:46.070 --> 23:48.750 So, using this email address a bunch. 23:49.020 --> 23:50.020 Here it is again. 23:50.020 --> 23:54.090 So, please provide any feedback or comments to us by July 22nd. 23:54.570 --> 23:56.850 Include BGPZs in the subject line. 23:56.850 --> 23:59.430 And so, we'll take the results of the polling today, 23:59.430 --> 24:02.910 any written feedback we get and we will take all that 24:02.910 --> 24:04.950 into consideration when we draft a more complete guidance 24:04.950 --> 24:08.160 document and we'll put it up for public review, 24:08.369 --> 24:10.590 probably post another stakeholder feedback 24:10.590 --> 24:13.470 meeting to make sure we're on track. 24:14.130 --> 24:17.025 And yeah, we hope to get this put together in 24:17.025 --> 24:22.915 a solidified and put out to you all, soon. 24:22.915 --> 24:28.270 And so, with that, are there any questions that you thought about 24:28.540 --> 24:31.720 while we're doing the polling or any thing previously? 24:39.450 --> 24:41.869 Looks like Daryl Peckham has a question maybe Natalie. 24:44.730 --> 24:44.760 NATALIE BALLEW: OK. 24:44.760 --> 24:47.779 So, the question we have here is what if you have a Brackish 24:47.779 --> 24:50.820 groundwater production on that isn't in a GCD. 24:50.820 --> 24:53.530 But then they get one and are forced to get one. 24:53.609 --> 24:54.510 What do you do then? 24:57.450 --> 24:59.420 ALYSA SUYDAM: That's a great question and I don't have ananswer for it yet. 24:59.430 --> 25:00.900 I don't think we've consider that, 25:00.900 --> 25:04.109 but that we'll definitely consider that when 25:04.109 --> 25:05.220 we're putting our guidance together. 25:08.600 --> 25:09.859 NATALIE BALLEW: And we have another question. 25:09.859 --> 25:12.890 Will there be an additional comment period after the next draft? 25:17.690 --> 25:19.340 ALYSA SUYDAM: I'm not certain, but I don't see why not. 25:20.350 --> 25:23.960 Probably to check with the, you know, our bosses and stuff, 25:24.350 --> 25:26.300 I think we could have another comment period. 25:28.030 --> 25:28.170 NATALIE BALLEW: Yeah. 25:28.180 --> 25:31.630 I think once we kind of assess all of the different 25:31.630 --> 25:34.990 kind of feedback we get here would likely send 25:34.990 --> 25:38.350 it out for an additional is this kind of where of 25:38.350 --> 25:40.150 course we're not going to make everyone happy. 25:40.150 --> 25:43.480 But you might not get everything that you kind of suggested, 25:43.480 --> 25:46.540 but we'll definitely consider having additional comment, period. 26:03.550 --> 26:07.720 And of course, if you all think of questions after this, 26:08.200 --> 26:12.460 you can direct them either to me or to Alysa if they're kind of 26:12.460 --> 26:16.060 separate from actual kind of comments on the whole process. 26:23.660 --> 26:25.550 Also, could you hop to the last slide there? 26:26.240 --> 26:27.890 ALYSA SUYDAM: Yes, I was taking notes on those questions. 26:30.770 --> 26:32.990 And so, yeah, I will pass it back to Natalie. 26:35.540 --> 26:40.010 NATALIE BALLEW: So, thank you so much for attending and answering the poll 26:40.010 --> 26:42.740 questions of the first time I've ever used those polling. 26:42.740 --> 26:46.190 So, thank you for being my guinea pigs. 26:47.180 --> 26:50.480 I just wanted to point out on the slide we have our website 26:50.480 --> 26:53.090 where we have the draft guidance document that we have. 26:53.359 --> 26:55.790 We will also be posting the recording of this 26:55.790 --> 26:58.280 meeting and the presentation itself on there. 26:59.000 --> 27:03.350 And again, here is the public comment email address 27:03.350 --> 27:05.960 and the deadline and kind of instructions there. 27:07.910 --> 27:12.800 And with that, if there are no other questions at this moment, 27:13.310 --> 27:16.100 I just want to thank you so much for joining us today, 27:16.130 --> 27:34.930 and I hope that you all have a wonderful day. 27:34.930 --> 28:40.830 So, Alysa are you still there? 28:43.190 --> 28:43.440 ALYSA SUYDAM: Yes. 28:45.200 --> 28:47.570 NATALIE BALLEW: I have no idea how I dismissed everyone. 28:48.380 --> 28:49.490 I had no idea how. 28:51.730 --> 28:54.240 We can see the poll. 28:54.240 --> 28:56.120 Responses. 28:56.120 --> 28:59.470 ALYSA SUYDAM: Also, you're still recording.